Iran: now full blown theocracy

I'm just hoping that no bombs go off between Iran and Israel. Israel's nuclear, and Iran's working on it. Plus there's all the other tinderboxes around...
 
Nosi said:
I'm just hoping that no bombs go off between Iran and Israel. Israel's nuclear, and Iran's working on it. Plus there's all the other tinderboxes around...
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Just raise your lead umbrella, and the radioactive sky won't fall on your head.

Problem sorted.

DR
 
Bill Thompson said:
Good. Let all the educated intelligent Iranians get political asylum in the USA. We need more smart people here.

Good for the USA. Bad for Iran. To hell with the ones that are left behind who do not leave.
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The ones who stay aren't necessarily unintelligent or uneducated. If you were trapped in a country that spewed propaganda day in, day out, you'd be just as likely to believe what they believe.
 
Skeptic said:
Not surprised; it's the usual "yawn, who cares?" indifference from the same folks who go ballistic over every "human rights violation" by Israel or "creeping theocracy" by the USA.
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the same folk your cowardice prevents you from naming....plus the pesky possibility that nobody will able to find any evidence they hold the views you assign to them....but thats never worried you in the past. I just love the way that if someone states something you know what they "really mean" and if they say nothing you also know what they "really mean" all this psychic power but you can't come up with a name?

lets test your powers....do I like curried food?

what a strange person.....
 
I feel sorry for the Iranians as this situation worsens. Iran has been a Theocracy since the Referendum to form an Islamic state after the '79 revolution. Ahmadinejad has been increasingly making the state under military control and removing what little facade of democracy that was left. The hopes for a moderate non-violent revolution appear to be dashed. Hopefully the Iranian people stand up to their dictators and against the bias among themselves and do what is necessary to reform the state. There might not be a will, but it takes time for these things to gain momentum. I would not be surprised if this time this year either a full blown civil war was in effect or if the opposition had been completely silenced.

Keep in mind the moderates of Iran that are being silenced are no angels either. They are far from what the west would consider of holding acceptable liberal democratic ideals (as in classical liberalism).

Who are the usual Iran apologists by the way? Iran is a horrible regime (not quite as bad as a few of their contemporaries such as Saudia Arabia) with a backwards mentality. Adopting a religious constitution with veto powers given to a select minority was an ignorant mistake the people made.
 
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Pardalis said:
Why need to name them if they recognize who they are?
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wow....maybe you have developed enough courage to name the people you assign opinions to? Or are you going to hide with "skeptic" behind the "usual suspects" couch?
 
I'm seriously curious who the usual suspects are for Iranian regime apologetics. I am not questioning such exist out there, I just have not noticed it on this board from threads I have participated in.

Are there any people of persian or other Iranian ethnicity that regularly participate on this board? I would be curious of their opinions too. Most of the arguements I have seen with regards to Iran have been about if their problems are international, if its bluster or a true threat, and then how to deal with those issues. I have not noticed arguements taking the position that the Iranian regime is correct in actions and policies.

Color me confused.
 
The Fallen Serpent said:
I'm seriously curious who the usual suspects are for Iranian regime apologetics. I am not questioning such exist out there, I just have not noticed it on this board from threads I have participated in.

Are there any people of persian or other Iranian ethnicity that regularly participate on this board? I would be curious of their opinions too. Most of the arguements I have seen with regards to Iran have been about if their problems are international, if its bluster or a true threat, and then how to deal with those issues. I have not noticed arguements taking the position that the Iranian regime is correct in actions and policies.

Color me confused.
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You do not understand?
In this "skeptic" forum, if you suggest that, maybe, not ruling out bombing (with nuclear weapons, of coz) Iran because there is the suspect that they may in the future develop nuclear weapons may not be the best (and more moral, btw) approach to the issue, you will be considered by the God-fearing and good patriot Americans (and assimilated) of this board as a staunch supporter of the Ayatollahs.
 
Skeptic said:
Not surprised; it's the usual "yawn, who cares?" indifference from the same folks who go ballistic over every "human rights violation" by Israel or "creeping theocracy" by the USA.

"Human rights" and "opposing theocracy" has nothing to do with it. There's just no money -- or self-satisfaction at being on the cutting edge of "political activism" -- in caring about Iran's people. Not sexy enough.

Opposing the evil imperialist-capitalist-globalizing-McDonlad's-eating big & small Satan, however, is cool.
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'Skeptic', this act of yours is really tired and increasingly lame. If you wan't to continue to come across as a lonely man hurling insuts at a brick wall, no doubt continue.

Your obsessive, bordeline psychotic hatred of all those who don't think like you is ugly and dull.
 
Scott Haley said:
A lot of politcal analysts say that Iraq isn't a theocracy, it's a military dictatorship. Check out Wall Street Journal, Foreign Policy Magazine
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Here's a very interesting interview with Reza Aslan on the subject:

http://persian2english.com/?p=10508

I still think he's wrong though by ignoring the religious aspect. The "Revolution" is Islamic after all, so this is an Islamic military mafia who is out to get the nuke... this should give anyone a reason to worry. But I think he makes a good argument in favor of lifting sanctions.

I'm not sure, would the lifting of sanctions really take power away from the IRGC, or rather do the opposite, and give it legitimacy?
 
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Undesired Walrus said:
'Skeptic', this act of yours is really tired and increasingly lame. If you wan't to continue to come across as a lonely man hurling insuts at a brick wall, no doubt continue.

Your obsessive, bordeline psychotic hatred of all those who don't think like you is ugly and dull.
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FWIW, I would substitute for "borderline psychotic hatred" the term "contempt" or "disdain" to get a little closer to something that is not a caricature.

DR
 
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