Incest in a lift

Cainkane1 said:
Beastiality isn't as bad as incest because humans and animals can't produce offspring. Pedophelia is worse because the child can't say no.
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Not according to the OP. But never mind that, I'd like to know why the ability to bear offspring becomes a marker?

Furthermore, are you seriously saying that having non-consensual sex with an animal completely outside your species is better than having consensual sex with your sibling. with regard to our hapless duo, apart from making it public, who were they hurting?
 
Aepervius said:
After seeing their photo, I think sex between brotehr and sister is probably a family tradition....
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Gah. After reading that kind of comments, I just had to go look. Good grief, that's some hauntingly Call-Of-Cthulhu kind of faces...

Where were these guys when we were debating the burqa laws? Now that's some mugs which could make a case for why it should be allowed to wear face-concealing stuff in public places. In fact, scratch "allowed", make that "mandatory" :p
 
On reflection, there are more depraved things than this, but when you add the fact that they did it in a public lift (twice) and left an 11-year-old on the platform while they did it, it's pretty darned depraved anyway.
 
I don't see how this is depraved at all. Depraved would imply that sex was forced or coerced. This seems to have been consensual sex which I have nothing against. What is "icky" is just a value judgement largely based on your own background.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
Interesting that the article only says the brother was put on the sex offenders register, and not the sister.
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I did wonder about that myself. Perhaps it's that he apparently paid her £20 for the pleasure made it seem more like there was coercion going on. But I can just as easily see that being considered a fee. Or I dunno, all men are rapists or something.
 
richardm said:
I did wonder about that myself. Perhaps it's that he apparently paid her £20 for the pleasure made it seem more like there was coercion going on. But I can just as easily see that being considered a fee. Or I dunno, all men are rapists or something.
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Maybe being a prostitute isn't illegal but paying for sex is.... or gross indecency by a man exposing his bits trumps a woman showing her bits....

The act of prostitution is not in itself illegal - but a string of laws criminalises activities around it. Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003, it is an offence to cause or incite prostitution or control it for personal gain.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7736436.stm
 
Ian Osborne said:
Can you imagine anything more depraved than this?
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First we would need to answer the question, is this depraved?

They couldn´t afford a hotel room, and apparently they had no bushy forest around (or then the lift seemed more dry and comfortable), so they chose a location which seemed to be private enough. They missed the sign telling that the lift had CCTV, or then the sign was torn out, or then no sign ever was in or near the lift. So they did it in the elevator.

Once a classmate of mine at school boasted of sometimes having sex with her boyfriend in the underground train, if the train happens to be empty during the quiet hours of day. I never considered them "depraved" for this, just "silly".

The main "depraved" thing here is apparently the fact that prostitution and/or incest between adults took place. The former is not depraved in the opinion of many, and the latter is not depraved in the opinion of some others. So potentially there was nothing depraved there at all. Except The Sun newspaper, which is depraved in the opinion of nearly everyone.
 
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caniswalensis said:
Who cares? the story is the topic. I can comment on any aspect of it that I choose.
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Sure you can. On the other hand, I can, in a similar vain, choose to comment on any comment on any aspect if any commenter has chosen to comment on it.

So...anyway, is it more or less depraved if it is or isn't true?

caniswalensis said:
Do you just post in this forum to argue?
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No. I post on this forum specifically to argue with you, but so far it has been a bit hit-and-miss.
 
JJM 777 said:
...Except The Sun newspaper, which is depraved in the opinion of nearly everyone.
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You bring up an interesting point. What is more depraved, consensual incest, or displaying an incestuous couple in a newspaper with full name and photograph?
No contest, really.
 
Well, it was in Motherwell.
More depraved things happen there every night.
I was born there, for starters. I was in bed with another bloke's wife at the time.
 
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