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In what way is Obama a successful President?

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Somebody claimed recently in another thread that Obama's presidency will be treated very favorably by historians. I'm sure that many active participants in USA Politics would agree. My question is "what are his major successes?" It would also be relevant to explain how he, personally, was instrumental in making those successes come to pass.

Just as an example of my thinking on the issue, even if you think Obamacare has been a success, which no doubt it has been from a certain perspective, I think Obama's handling of health care reform was a disaster. Virtually any other Democratic leader could have done a better job with it I think, especially Hillary Clinton. By completely outsourcing the writing of the bill to Congress, and not personally getting involved in the negotiations, we ended up with a big ball of wibbly wobbly stuff that came within a whisker of being struck down by the Supreme Court and may yet be facing insurmountable problems. Furthermore, the way the bill was passed engendered so much political opposition that it gutted his party's control of Congress and sapped his power to have much effect on domestic policy. Something similar, although not quite to the same extent, happened with the stimulus bill in early 2009, which should have been a no-brainer.
 
This thread begs for the same rehtoric used in the Obama is a thin-skinned narcissist thread.
 
Obamacare was a great idea. Many more people have insurance due to it. The knock on that is on corporate greed though, not Obama. It was designed to have minimum standards for people who didn't have insurance. Naturally, greedy executives figured they could then give their employees the minimum standards instead of the good benefits packages they enjoyed prior to Obamacare.

He's genuine. Articulate, and not an embarrassment to us on the world stage.

He's a vital cog in the machine that is as we type, decimating ISIS on every front imaginable. They're losing ground bigly, and we're not losing many soldiers in the effort.

I wish his energy policies were better.
 
This link should answer all your questions, sunmaster14.

Mods, can we please close the thread now?
 
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Given the fact that so many stupid, idiotic, lying Republicans hate President Obama is about the best way to determine that President Obama has been a quite successful.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I fear his most enduring legacy will be the massive use of robotics in ground, air and sea warfare.
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But any President would have done the same thing in that respect. I don't think it's either to his credit or discredit. It's just where technology is taking us.
 
I'd rate him pretty well on domestic policy, but pretty poorly on foreign policy.

If we could get an amendment passed tomorrow changing term limits to 12 years, I'd gladly have him back for 4 more years over either major parties nom.
 
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lobosrul said:
I'd rate him pretty well on domestic policy, but pretty poorly on foreign policy.

If we could get an amendment passed tomorrow changing term limits to 12 years, I'd gladly have him back for 4 more years over either major parties nom.
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To be honest, I consider Hillary Clinton to be an enormous improvement over Obama. I would rather have her for 8 years guaranteed over another 4 years of Obama followed by a Republican President.

I do reserve the right to change my mind about that though. ;)
 
sunmaster14 said:
To be honest, I consider Hillary Clinton to be an enormous improvement over Obama. I would rather have her for 8 years guaranteed over another 4 years of Obama followed by a Republican President.

I do reserve the right to change my mind about that though. ;)
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Wow. In what ways do you consider HRC an improvement over Obama?
 
Obamacare
He improved international relations to an all time high. Which is something, given the hash Bush made
Same sex marriage
Though he wasn't that successful due to gun nutters highlighting and trying to bring in as many gun reforms as poss
 
cullennz said:
Obamacare
He improved international relations to an all time high. Which is something, given the hash Bush made
Same sex marriage
Though he wasn't that successful due to gun nutters highlighting and trying to bring in as many gun reforms as poss
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In theory, same sex marriage had nothing to do with the executive branch. It was a Supreme Court decision. In theory ...
 
In no special order
  • ACA will be seen as the first steps to UHC and having the U.S. join the rest of civilized world.
  • Managed to recover from the previous administrations economic disaster, despite repeated sabotage attempts by Republicans.
  • Helped more U.S. residents achieve equality regardless of sexual orientation
  • Maintained his dignity and focus while his religion was attacked, his citizenship attacked, and being accused of hating America, white people, and being accused of appeasing and being complicit in terrorism against the U.S.
  • Oversaw the killing of OBL after previous president stopped trying.
  • Didn't enter into any wars
  • Will be given credit for the implosion of the Republican party (hopefully it returns to normalcy in the future)
  • Didn't allow the Climate Science deniers to derail progress combating AGW (albeit slower then hoped)
  • Continued pushing alternative energy, at the expense of fossil fuels.
  • His keeping reasonable gun control conversation moving will be applauded as future presidents will continue his momentum and make progress to join the res of the civilized world.
That's a bit of it....
 
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