In Teabagistan Schools Will Be Segregated

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From the Washington Post

RALEIGH, N.C. - The sprawling Wake County School District has long been a rarity. Some of its best, most diverse schools are in the poorest sections of this capital city. And its suburban schools, rather than being exclusive enclaves, include children whose parents cannot afford a house in the neighborhood.

But over the past year, a new majority-Republican school board backed by national tea party conservatives has set the district on a strikingly different course. Pledging to "say no to the social engineers!" it has abolished the policy behind one of the nation's most celebrated integration efforts.


You know, Tea Party -- all about fiscal discipline. Oh, and re-segregating school systems too. They're also about that.

Don't act surprised.
 
"If we had a school that was, like, 80 percent high-poverty, the public would see the challenges, the need to make it successful," he said. "Right now, we have diluted the problem, so we can ignore it."

And that's not social engineering?

Maybe its more about art and environment: skin tone feng shui?
 
It sure is raining dung on Teabagistan these days, education-wise.

Tea Parties in Tennessee are pushing for some changes to schools curriculum:

From the Commercial Appeal

Regarding education, the material they distributed said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."

That would include, the documents say, that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."

The material calls for lawmakers to amend state laws governing school curriculums, and for textbook selection criteria to say that "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."


That's right: teabaggery means never criticizing your past leaders when it comes to kickin' Injuns around and holdin' slaves.

Fiscal responsibility and whitewashed history -- that's what the Tea Parties are all about.

By the way, can anyone explain to me why it's so all-fired important to these whacktards to emphasize the "republic not a democracy" shtick?
 
You have to love the idiotic pedantry of people saying, "We don't have a democracy, we have a republic." A representative in which the representatives are elected by the citizenry is still a form of democracy. The only reason they don't like the term "democracy" is because most people are Democrats and they want to be sure that their party (Republicans) are directly associated with our form of democracy as if that makes them right on everything (We have a republic and we're Republicans, right?).
 
By the way, can anyone explain to me why it's so all-fired important to these whacktards to emphasize the "republic not a democracy" shtick?

Because the words sound like "Republican" and "Democrat"?
 
Technically they're correct.

Article 4, Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

So voting for Democrats is unconstitutional. ;)
 
So far, the board shows few signs of shifting course. Last month, it announced that Anthony J. Tata, former chief operating officer of the D.C. schools, will replace a superintendent who resigned to protest the new board's intentions. Tata, a retired general, names conservative commentator Glenn Beck and the Tea Party Patriots among his "likes" on his Facebook page....

...And in 2000, they shifted from racial to economic integration, adopting a goal that no school should have more than 40 percent of its students qualify for free or reduced-price lunches, the proxy for poverty.... fewer than 10 percent are bused to a school to maintain diversity, and most bus rides are less than five miles.

... But as the county has boomed in recent years - adding as many as 6,000 students a year - poverty levels at some schools have exceeded 70 percent. And many suburban parents have complained that their children are being reassigned from one school to the next. Officials blame this on the unprecedented growth, but parents blame the diversity goal. ... Following his guidance, the GOP fielded the victorious bloc of school board candidates who railed against "forced busing." The nation's largest tea party organizers, Americans for Prosperity - on whose national board Pope sits - cast the old school board members as arrogant "leftists." Two libertarian think tanks, which Pope funds almost exclusively, have deployed experts on TV and radio....

...critics expressed alarm that the plan would create a handful of high-poverty, racially isolated schools, a scenario that the new majority has begun embracing. Pope, who is a former state legislator, said he would back extra funding for such schools.

"If we end up with a concentration of students underperforming academically, it may be easier to reach out to them," he said. "Hypothetically, we should consider that as well."

So, to summarize that from behind my liberal colored glasses, a bunch of rich and richer conservatives blame 'those people' for whatever the rich and richer are dissatisfied with, and found a Glenn Beck Tea Party conservative millionaire to fund the campaign for their Tea Party school board members who think like they do.

This is very similar to the school board takeovers by the Creationists in various Bible Belt states. The Discovery Institute millions were behind some of those local elections.

As for the rationalization this is really going to be "working out for those people", what a crock. They'll supposedly get attention if the underachieving poor kids are more noticeable all in a few horrid schools. It's so easy for these Tea Party people to just not care about those less fortunate than themselves. They don't owe those welfare kings and queens anything. :rolleyes:
 
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First, I don't see the need to invoke the labeling of political parties on to one particular political idea. That's just inviting distraction and name-calling, which serves no purpose.

I'm curious about the merits of this idea, however. What if it were the case that the best method of fixing failing schools was to enact a plan that, as a result, segregated them? Would that be worth it? I don't like the idea of segregation, but I find the possibility of poor education to be far worse.
 
You have to love the idiotic pedantry of people saying, "We don't have a democracy, we have a republic." A representative in which the representatives are elected by the citizenry is still a form of democracy. The only reason they don't like the term "democracy" is because most people are Democrats and they want to be sure that their party (Republicans) are directly associated with our form of democracy as if that makes them right on everything (We have a republic and we're Republicans, right?).

I have always thought that a republic was a form of democracy that specifically states there will not be a monarch. I could understand why the founding fathers would, after beating king George V, choose that word.

As for the need to brain wash children to believe in an infallible America is just beyond me. We screwed some people over in our time and it important that we recognize this and learn from it.
 
Is Teabagistan anywhere near Libertopia?


They're both neighboring lands to Guilder and Florin1, just over the mountains from Fredonia2, Carpathia3, the Duchy of Grand Fenwick4, Ruritania5, and Derkaderkastan6.

1The Princess Bride
2Duck Soup
3The Prince and the Showgirl
4The Mouse that Roared
5The Prisoner of Zenda
6Team America: World Police
 
Art Pope
Art Pope is the president and vice-chairman of the board of directors for Variety Wholesalers Inc., and a director of the right-wing group Americans for Prosperity, which organized the Tax Day Tea Parties across the country, and which organized "town hall" opposition to health care reform in 2009. ...

...An investigation by Facing South also found that Pope has close ties to the Koch Brothers, as one of four national directors of the Koch-founded political advocacy group Americans for Prosperity. In addition, Pope is a director and board chair of a family foundation, the Pope Foundation, which has steered millions to conservative thinks tanks in North Carolina and nationally that have worked closely with the Koch network to manufacture doubt about global warming, including his own John Locke Foundation.[2]
Overall, the 2010 Facing South analysis of tax records found that a foundation chaired by Art Pope supplies about 90 percent of the income of leading conservative nonprofits in North Carolina.[3]

...A 2010 investigation by the Institute for Southern Studies found that Pope had begun funneling money to ostensibly nonpartisan nonprofits that use it to run attack ads, primarily directed at politicians who have played a key role in addressing climate change in the state.

...In 2006, the Raleigh News and Observer reported that Pope "has created other organizations to sway public opinion, monitor the legislature, develop grass-roots political efforts and bring court challenges" and that he had spent "millions of dollars on a network whose purpose is to move North Carolina to the political right." His goal was to purge the North Carolina state House of Representatives of Republican moderates.

So this guy is a far right, Glenn Beck believer, climate change denier, who funds the organization most responsible for denying second hand cigarette smoke was harmful, among other evil things.

Lovely.
 
I have always thought that a republic was a form of democracy that specifically states there will not be a monarch. I could understand why the founding fathers would, after beating king George V, choose that word.

As for the need to brain wash children to believe in an infallible America is just beyond me. We screwed some people over in our time and it important that we recognize this and learn from it.


No, a republic ≠ a democracy. A republic has no monarch. Plenty of republics are non-democratic. The UK, on the other hand, is a democratic monarchy.

Back in the day, the founding of the USA as a republic was a big friggin' deal, because they weren't so common. But so was the democracy aspect of it. You know, the whole thing about people electing the representatives and president kind of establishes the USA as a democracy.
 
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First, I don't see the need to invoke the labeling of political parties on to one particular political idea. That's just inviting distraction and name-calling, which serves no purpose.

I'm curious about the merits of this idea, however. What if it were the case that the best method of fixing failing schools was to enact a plan that, as a result, segregated them? Would that be worth it? I don't like the idea of segregation, but I find the possibility of poor education to be far worse.
If the label fits....

Or maybe you don't think Art Pope is either key to this issue or as radical a Tea Bagger as the stuff I posted above suggests or some other reason? Feel free to go on....
 
If we had a school that was, like, 80 percent high-poverty, the public would see the challenges, the need to make it successful," he said. "Right now, we have diluted the problem, so we can ignore it."

And that's not social engineering?

Of course it would be. But there is some logic to the statement. Perhaps we would be better off if we stopped diluting the problem of high school graduation rates that are as bad as the predominantly democratic controlled public education system has tolerated for decades? :D
 
Ending a blatantly racist policy is being condemnded by liberals as “racist”.

Nothing surprising about the irony here; it doesn't tell us anything about the liberal mindset that most rational people didn't already know quite well.
 
Ending a blatantly racist policy is being condemnded by liberals as “racist”.
There are lot of quotes in this thread, would you mind including the one which relates to your comment?
Nothing surprising about the irony here; it doesn't tell us anything about the liberal mindset that most rational people didn't already know quite well.
This quote actually says a lot more about your mindset then the liberals.
 
First, I don't see the need to invoke the labeling of political parties on to one particular political idea. That's just inviting distraction and name-calling, which serves no purpose.

I'm curious about the merits of this idea, however. What if it were the case that the best method of fixing failing schools was to enact a plan that, as a result, segregated them? Would that be worth it? I don't like the idea of segregation, but I find the possibility of poor education to be far worse.
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Way back when, I was called up for the Cuban Crisis draft.
Went back to Bowling Green VA to take a bus to the induction center in Richmond Va for mental and physical processing.
There were 6 whites and 25 or so blacks... probably the only time the races would ride in the same bus anywhere in VA, until segregation was eliminated.
5 of the whites were inducted on the spot. NONE of the blacks, all graduates of the then-existing "separate but equal" education system in VA were found qualified to be cannon fodder.
I'm sure it wasn't their health that excused them.
 

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