in-progress, appropriately named truther site

[Tony Szamboti]

It would be unfortunate if people were using 9/11 truth to make money. I hope that is not what is happening.

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911. I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

Richard Gage became a paid spokesman for the Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth group a few years ago and he took a pay cut of about 25 to 30% from what he was making as an architect working for a firm.

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

 

[beachnut]

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911. I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

Richard Gage became a paid spokesman for the group a few years ago and he took a pay cut of about 25 to 30% from what he was making as an architect.

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

LOL, yes, the 9/11 truth followers are fools who are not making money; there can be only one at the top, it is Gage and his worldwide travel club for one.

Gage is making the money. He takes in over 500,000 dollars a year, unless it is a tax scam for his rich buddies who donate 100,000 or more.

Prove he was making more before he started the scam based on lies and the idiotic fantasy of CD.

The only reason to push lies as dumbed down as Gage is money, or insanity. His last video he looked upset and insane. Is it an act?

14 years and 9/11 truth has not had a valid claim. Keep up the prefect record of woo.

 

[carlitos]

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911.

This is true. Your organization lies to make money.

 

[Spanx]

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

Are you speaking on behalf of Mark Basile & Co ?

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

Here's some people with no basis for what they are saying, putting those donations to good use:

ETA - that "BEYOND MISINFORMATION" tagline gets me every time. Absolutely brazen

 

[ozeco41]

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911.

Probably true. And it is almost certainly true that you are not making money out of telling the truth:

I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

HOWEVER:

Richard Gage became a paid spokesman for the Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth group a few years ago and he took a pay cut of about 25 to 30% from what he was making as an architect working for a firm.

So you acknowledge that Gage is making money out of his 9/11 activities. I'm sure that we all knew that but thanks for the confirmation. So your next comment:

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

...must be false. It is a global claim and you have confirmed one exception - Gage is making money from his 9/11 activities.


BUT - as members here will know - he is not making money from telling the truth. He wouldn't acknowledge the truth if you hit him over the head with it and tagged it with a big label "This is the Truth". The man is obsessively untruthful as you well know.

 

[ozeco41]

This is true. Your organization lies to make money.

 

[Spanx]

I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

I believe you, I can see your plate is empty in the photo above.

I get the feeling Richard is as tight as could be and only looks out for himself. Did he ask you to pay the food tab ?

 

[JSanderO]

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911. I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

Richard Gage became a paid spokesman for the Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth group a few years ago and he took a pay cut of about 25 to 30% from what he was making as an architect working for a firm.

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

Don't believe this.... Have you seen his pay stubs when he worked for an architectural firm? He now has all his expenses paid... travel, lodging and probably food... IIRC he was drawing something like $80- $100K to run AE911T and only Tanya had a salary... and a few people got tiny monthly draws like Gregg Roberts.

As they say in internet world.... prove it.

 

[FalseFlag]

Here's some people with no basis for what they are saying, putting those donations to good use:

[qimg]http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s394/jrefpicciesinnit/97a23399-1b74-46c8-b0c6-044dc92353e9_zpsopl4xzwv.jpg[/qimg]

ETA - that "BEYOND MISINFORMATION" tagline gets me every time. Absolutely brazen

Please show a copy of the receipt that shows the meal was paid for by AE911T.

 

[DGM]

Please show a copy of the receipt that shows the meal was paid for by AE911T.

That looks like a lunch with everyone on the board. Who do you think picked up the tab?

Look at their form 990 for the last 6 years if you really want to know where the money goes.

 

[Axxman300]

Technically the meal was paid for my morons.

 

[beachnut]

Please show a copy of the receipt that shows the meal was paid for by AE911T.

Gage has taking in over a million dollars... I bet he does not pay, he seems to be cheap. Is it a scam; he fooled you.

the money based on the dumbed down delusional CD fantasy...
2010 $434,526
2011 $469,362
2012 $540,038
2013 $897,960

Gage's private travel fund.

Why would AE911T not pay for the meal? It is a business meeting, monkey business.

 

[HSienzant]

Re: The photo above, is Dan Barnum any relation to P.T.Barnum?

 

[MicahJava]

Nobody is making money off telling the truth about 911. I have had to put unreimbursed money out of my own pocket any time I went to speak somewhere.

Richard Gage became a paid spokesman for the Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth group a few years ago and he took a pay cut of about 25 to 30% from what he was making as an architect working for a firm.

People claiming others are making money off of this have no basis for what they are saying.

Truth people don't share any of the characteristics of charlatans. None of them sell the relevant information to the message they are spreading. Everything information-related they produce is available for free on the internet.

 

[Oystein]

Truth people don't share any of the characteristics of charlatans. None of them sell the relevant information to the message they are spreading. Everything information-related they produce is available for free on the internet.

Can you link me to the free online versions of David Ray Griffin's books?

Why does AE911Truth charge between 10 and 30 dollars for so many of their films? Which of the 20 are available for free on the internet? Is the DVD "Firefighters Architects & Engineers – Expose 9/11 Myths" (US$ 18.95) available for free? URL, please! Why did it take them months until the booklet "Beyond Misinformation" was available for free? Did they not desire to spread the misinformation wide and fast? Or did they rather try to make $$$ with it?

What are Christopher Bollyn, Ken O'Keefe, Richard Gage living on if not money raised from spreading CTist charlatanery?

 

[Ape of Good Hope]

Please show a copy of the receipt that shows the meal was paid for by AE911T.

What receipt?

What on earth are you prattling on about now?

I was merely posting a nice picture of some happy people having a lovely time after a busy day at the convention


(If you think there's, gawd forbid, some financial impropriety going on, I suggest you get in touch with AE911 and request this receipt forthwith. Personally, I don't give a monkey's what they get up to with your donations.)

 

[AcesHigh]

If the floors above where the planes hit on 9/11 actually were descending through the floors underneath where the planes hit, they could have crushed some floors. THEY COULD NOT HAVE CRUSHED DOZENS OF FLOORS ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND.

That’s Newton’s third law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So if the floors descending did crushing, they themselves were PROPORTIONALLY crushed. Therefore, no mass would have continued to descend and do crushing all the way to the bottom.

Well, I completely agree with him...

... IF the WTC was located in orbit ("zero-g" / microgravity)

Then if the top floors were somehow THROWN against the bottom floors at some 9 meters per second (let's consider 1 second of fall), only a few floors would be crushed before the opposite forces equalised and stopped the crushing.


HOWEVER, the WTC was not in orbit, and the idiot forgot to take into account gravity.

he could just do a few experiments on Earth and he would discover the problem is his OWN understanding of physics.

 

[ProBonoShill]

Truth people don't share any of the characteristics of charlatans. None of them sell the relevant information to the message they are spreading. Everything information-related they produce is available for free on the internet.

LOLOLOL See below...

Gage has taking in over a million dollars... I bet he does not pay, he seems to be cheap. Is it a scam; he fooled you.

the money based on the dumbed down delusional CD fantasy...
2010 $434,526
2011 $469,362
2012 $540,038
2013 $897,960

Gage's private travel fund.

Why would AE911T not pay for the meal? It is a business meeting, monkey business.

Where did this money come from micah?

Please don;t tell me you gave these clowns your money so they could travel the world and eat expensive food on your dime.

 

[MicahJava]

Can you link me to the free online versions of David Ray Griffin's books?

http://www.krusch.com/books/911/Debunking_911_Debunking.pdf

http://www.krusch.com/books/911/New_Pearl_Harbor_Revisited.pdf

http://www.krusch.com/books/911/Mysterious_Collapse_World_Trade_Center_7.pdf

Either way, I strongly disagree with DRG on most things, his WTC 7 book is his best but it was nothing that anybody couldn't figure out for themselves. By "truth people", I meant AE911TRUTH.

Why does AE911Truth charge between 10 and 30 dollars for so many of their films? Which of the 20 are available for free on the internet? Is the DVD "Firefighters Architects & Engineers – Expose 9/11 Myths" (US$ 18.95) available for free? URL, please! Why did it take them months until the booklet "Beyond Misinformation" was available for free? Did they not desire to spread the misinformation wide and fast? Or did they rather try to make $$$ with it?

What are Christopher Bollyn, Ken O'Keefe, Richard Gage living on if not money raised from spreading CTist charlatanery?

Oystein, that is physical media. Beyond Misinformation is available for free online, and so is all of AE911TRUTH's documentaries. The material in Beyond Misinformation is just an organizes booklet of material that you could just find on the AE911TRUTH website.

The physical media and products are basically a donation to the organization. You have absolutely no evidence that Gage is a charlatan or is making more money than he would if he had a normal job in architecture (consider that AE911TRUTH was started 9 years ago). The material presented in the average Richard Gage presentation is well more than enough to warrant an investigation into inside job.