In God you trust?

diddidit said:
But the value of the $ isn't attached to the value of gold anymore - Nixon de-linked the two in 1971. We must place our trust in the dollar alone.
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Really. Shows what I know. ;)

How about "In The Value of This Green Paper We Trust"? Doesn't have the same right to it. Maybe better to just forgo the whole motto altogether.
 
Indeed, unless we were to make it ambiguous enough to serve all purposes. I propose "In Stuff We Trust," which would seem to serve the American ideal particularly well.

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Got Chit?

From what I remember from economics, the US monetary system, since it is no longer backed by gold, is technically considered a "chit fund" system. So I vote for "In Chit we Trust". Or if you feel otherwise, "We Don't Trust Chit". :biggrin:
 
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swstephe said:
From what I remember from economics, the US monetary system, since it is no longer backed by gold, is technically considered a "chit fund" system. So I vote for "In Chit we Trust". Or if you feel otherwise, "We Don't Trust Chit". :biggrin:
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So when i meet a rich man I could tell him he is "full of chit"?
 
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arcticpenguin said:

So when i meet a rich man I could tell him he is "full of chit"?
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What's more, a wealthy rancher could be full of bullchit! Ah, the possibilities are endless.

However, I modify my prior proposal to:

"For Stuff We Lust"

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Dose anyone really think that the U.S. will ever take it off or change it to something other than ‘In God We Trust’? How many years or decades will it take?
 
"This is what happens when you get just a few folks, these judges, who think they are God and act like God at the expense of God. There’s no question religious rights in America are being eroded."
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Judges are the new God?

From that statement, I wonder if Religion is on the way out under todays current lifestyles?

Both Religion and Politics have been interwoven for so long, maybe it is now being unravelled as attitudes towards Religion have changed?

Originally posted by mummymonkey
This piece in today's Scotsman is probably typical of the way the US is seen just now by most people in the UK. Is it fair?
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Fair, no. Applicable, possibly.

Is it an uncomfortable contradiction to a non Religious person to have that statement on money and on oaths?
 
Nefertiti said:
Is it an uncomfortable contradiction to a non Religious person to have that statement on money and on oaths?
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My greenbacks spend the same regardless of what's printed on that back. I used to use a black marker to cross it out, but decided it wasn't worth it. I was also curious to see if others might start doing the same, but Where's George turned out to be more popular.

I just skip saying it in oaths in a group, or refuse to say it if I'm by myself.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:


My greenbacks spend the same regardless of what's printed on that back. I used to use a black marker to cross it out, but decided it wasn't worth it. I was also curious to see if others might start doing the same, but Where's George turned out to be more popular.
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That is bemusing.

My companion has just said this, an alternative version of 'In God we trust.' "In man we trust, in God we demand proof of"
 
If anything, take it back to "E Pluribus Unum" (Trans: from many, one). Personally I think it typifies the USA WAY more accurately than the other motto (which is divisive - hence this thread), and it also obliquely references your origins in 1776 and since then. I like it!

FWIW, our state motto is "Orta Recens Quam Pura Nites". Not only Latin, it looks like an ancient pescription!
 
I agree with the E Pluribus Unum (I can't spell Latin words, or even most English ones, so forgive me on this.)

Frankly, I find "In God We Trust" to be a lie, since, I, for one, DON'T trust god.
 
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ceo_esq said:
This from a country that has an official state church?
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And yet, it has very little influence over anything. Blair's a religious man, but would never think of making overt religious references in his speeches, and if he did he would probably be pilloried.

In fact, in Scotland, it's such a non-issue that it's only recently I've found out that the Church of Scotland is an established church.
 
ceo_esq said:
This from a country that has an official state church?
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That's the whole point. The US is, so we're told in school here, a secular state with a strict separation between churches and state. It’s something I’ve always admired and envied. We here, by way of contrast, have established churches, bishops in parliament, state funded Catholic schools, religious imagery on our symbols and flags and the national anthem is God Save the Queen. Both her Maj and Rev Blair have got God.

However, now you have God on your money, in your courthouses, and in your motto and anthem. You've got God in your scary president big time. You can't switch on to a US TV show without somebody praying for something or other, or thanking God for this or that. That's a whole lot of God you seem to have there.

And yet according to the Pope Scotland is no longer a Christian country. Kirk attendances are plummeting and religion has long since become irrelevant to most people.

Why is it, that the secular United States appears to be sinking into a religious mire of its own making while the Christian United Kingdom becomes more Godless by the day?
 
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