In God We Trust

I think the phrase makes our money look silly.

I'd prefer the motto "Please don't snort coke on this bill. It's unsanitary."
 
I think making such a statement would just be anal, and that's how people would see us for doing it. I doubt it would actually accomplish anything. Activism is all well and good, but if the choice is between doing something you have no reason to believe will be affective and doing nothing, why is doing nothing considered inherantly bad?

Of course that's not the choice in this case. We could still make our various representatives aware of our disaproval. Let's just not be arses about it and do things that'll just make people mad.

That said, I do think it's pretty stupid and inaccurate a sentiment, I just don't think it's that big a deal, and in the grand scheme of things, there are much more important things to worry about right now in our government than a religious statement on our currency. I say this particular change should wait until actual IMPORTANT problems are solved. This stems from noticing huge meetings in congress about trivial issues that just make me cynical, wondering if violence in video games is nearly as important as the violence occuring in real life while they are actually discussing violence in video games. What ever happened to priorities?

Sorry, rant over. Summery: Yes it should be changed for all the reasons we atheists have listed in the past, but it's not nearly important enough to waste time worrying about it right now and even then we shouldn't be acting like it's a big deal when we do complain about it, because in the grand scheme of things, it's not. The pledge of allegience is a bit more important than that because kids are actually taught it in school and taught to repeat it every single day, but that too isn't nearly big enough a deal to put that over the teaching of creationism.

Again, focus on the big things first and then we can focus on the little stuff. Please note that the "big things" to me means putting people in office that actually share our point of view so that we can actually GET this taken care of.
 
Azure said:
I'd take atheists more seriously if they could get their message through without resorting to childish pranks.
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I'd take theists more seriously if they could get over their childish prank of stamping god's name all over everything. It's like junior-high graffiti. "U.S. + J.C. 4-ever. [heart]"
 
JamesDillon said:
I'd take theists more seriously if they could get over their childish prank of stamping god's name all over everything. It's like junior-high graffiti. "U.S. + J.C. 4-ever. [heart]"
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[evil genius]
I agree. I think you should, as of this very moment, start a nationwide effort to rid our currency of this obvious violation of the constitution. I will pledge a good deal of money to the effort to the strongest of the non-profit objectors. Especially those based in blue states.
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Rob Lister said:
[evil genius]
I agree. I think you should, as of this very moment, start a nationwide effort to rid our currency of this obvious violation of the constitution. I will pledge a good deal of money to the effort to the strongest of the non-profit objectors. Especially those based in blue states.
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Excellent. Please send your donations my way. I'll start organizing right now and plan for a public kick-off in 2009 :)
 
JamesDillon said:
Excellent. Please send your donations my way. I'll start organizing right now and plan for a public kick-off in 2009 :)
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True story...

On a dare-type joke, many years ago, I sent five dollars to NOW and I'm still receiving requests for donations. I figure with postage, handling and printing costs, the total of what they've sent must be well over 50 bucks.

Bless their hearts.
 
TragicMonkey said:
So, lives have to be ruined in order to justify stopping something?

Will having "Azure smells like cheap macaroni-and-cheese" on the currency ruin any lives?

How many idiocies can be perpetrated on the justification that it doesn't "ruin any lives"?
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Great comparison.

Adds justice to your cause.

Like I said, its a childish prank, by people that obviously like to refer to childish means in order to get their point across.
 
JamesDillon said:
I'd take theists more seriously if they could get over their childish prank of stamping god's name all over everything. It's like junior-high graffiti. "U.S. + J.C. 4-ever. [heart]"
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I never stamped anything anywhere. And I never said it 'should' be stamped there.

I said we shouldn't resort to childish means in order to get our point across.
 
Azure said:
Like I said, its a childish prank, by people that obviously like to refer to childish means in order to get their point across.
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Like using an Israeli flag as an avatar?

While we don't have god on our currency here, we are in the unfortuate position of having him [?] in almost every line of our national anthem.
 
The Atheist said:
Like using an Israeli flag as an avatar?

While we don't have god on our currency here, we are in the unfortuate position of having him [?] in almost every line of our national anthem.
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And I'm sure you are set back daily in your life because of it.

Welcome to the ignore list.
 
thatguywhojuggles said:
I've started taking a black marker to "In God We Trust" on any money that passes through my hands. I found I'm not alone in this: http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9990.htm

If you believe in the separation of church and state, please join me in this protest.
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I applaud your reasons but boo at your action.

I have tremendous respect for "civil disobedience" but the action you are in engaged in is less than helpful in this regard.

Much better ways exist to protest.
 
DanishDynamite said:
I applaud your reasons but boo at your action.

I have tremendous respect for "civil disobedience" but the action you are in engaged in is less than helpful in this regard.

Much better ways exist to protest.
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

How did those words get onto the currency to begin with?
By grassroots petitions and letters written to Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase, who received "many appeals from devout persons throughout the country."

http://www.treasury.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
 
webfusion said:
I disagree wholeheartedly.

How did those words get onto the currency to begin with?
By grassroots petitions and letters written to Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase, who received "many appeals from devout persons throughout the country."

http://www.treasury.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
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Civil disobediance is STILL DISOBEDIANCE! :D

Really though, there's a difference between a letter writing campaign and this. If however you can site a decision in government made to add something to currency based on people constantly writing "in god we trust" on their currency and circulating it, then you have something.

I fail to see the odds they will even notice such a large amount or start keeping track of such things. It'll likely be ignored as much as finding that one dollar bill with the message "sorry but I'm leaving you, here's some money to tide you over" or "call me, ###-####" on it.

And again, there are more important things to worry about right now.
 
"Where's George?"

Dark Jaguar said:
Civil disobediance is STILL DISOBEDIANCE! :D

Really though, there's a difference between a letter writing campaign and this. If however you can site a decision in government made to add something to currency based on people constantly writing "in god we trust" on their currency and circulating it, then you have something.

I fail to see the odds they will even notice such a large amount or start keeping track of such things. It'll likely be ignored as much as finding that one dollar bill with the message "sorry but I'm leaving you, here's some money to tide you over" or "call me, ###-####" on it.

And again, there are more important things to worry about right now.
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To each his own. You may think that other things are more important.
Others, however, think this is a good place to start, by making a stand against creeping dilution of the "separation of church and state" clause of the Bill of Rights.

If enough people make the decision to alter the bills, then it will become a cause celebre ---- you would be surprised at how fast money circulates in the USA. If the government (in 1957) decided to put the words on the bills, the government can decide (in 2017) to remove them ---- especially if the Treasury Dep't. sees that it's being disapproved of everywhere (by crossing out the words on the bills) across the nation by millions of citizens already.

See: "Where's George?" campaign -
http://www.wheresgeorge.com/
 
Azure said:
And how exactly are their lives ruined by having those 4 words on the US' currency?

You have to be arrogant to resort to such actions.
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Gosh, maybe because it says that I trust in something which doesn't exist. What if it said, "In Leprachauns We Trust?"
 
Quick note:

Mentioned in the link from the OP, I noticed that there is now a "private, non-profit, educational" organization which is printing notes and minting coins, which say "Trust in God" --- and these precious-metal-backed certificates are being offered as a substitute for Federal Reserve-issued currency.
 
I have no Idea what you guys are talking about...can you send me some examples for me to read? One of each denomination please as I need to be sure.....
 
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