If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

Crazy Chainsaw said:
Iron can be reduced or oxygenized at low temperatures.
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Provided a reducing atmosphere is induced in a high carbon, carbon monoxide atmosphere.

Why do I need to publish the reduction and ignition of Iron in the presence of Aluminum is the trigger factor to Aluminothermic reactions.
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1. Forum posts don't count

2. What are your experiments and what are the results?

3. What is the chemical makeup of that particle you're holding?

4. Forum posts don't count
 
LOL, the small fire card played again. How can 9/11 truth say fire does not destroy stuff? Overwhelming ignorance.

Fire fighters predict steel buildings collapse, they do in fire. 9/11 truth ignores reality, followers, easy to fool with lies from idiots like Cole and Gage.

We get the Gish Gallop BS about predicting 7 WTC collapse; and it means? nothing

No steel was damaged by explosives or thermite, yet Cole's failed experiments fool a fringe few unable to comprehend science.

Cole is the topic, and so far no evidence has come from FF.
 
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beachnut said:
LOL, the small fire card played again.

Fire fighters predict steel buildings collapse, they do in fire. But you ignore realtity and are easy to fool with lies from idiots like Cole and Gage.

Now you Gish Gallop into BS, opinions 7 WTC will collapse, and opinion based on knowledge, and it did. Many who saw 7 WTC on 9/11 say it looked bad.

You are ignoring the fact that no steel was damaged by explosives or thermite, and make up BS about statements made as if they support your evidence free CD fantasy. Like not knowing 77 did not circle the Pentagon, yoru knowledge of fire, physics, engineering is as shallow as your other failed 9/11 truth claims you fell for in the past.

Try to get on topic, and explain why you support Cole's failed experiments; and how will you support the fantasy of CD with no evidence?
Cole is the topic, and so far no evidence has come from FF.
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LOL, you're playing the psychic card again. There was no basis to say that WTC 7 was in danger of collapse at 12:00 PM - 1:00 PM (not including the reports of warnings from before), no basis for any human being on earth to predict the hour in which a skyscraper would collapse by fire. Sorry, don't accept miracles without explanation. Are the quotes by firefighters one of the things you lean on to assure yourself there's no way it could have been a demolition? Guess what: it probably originates from that Engineer who was talking to the fire chiefs. And guess what else? James Randi still has his million dollars.
 
MicahJava said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...ter-w-424-1132-1312-a-228.html#post1065760814
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really a thread from Conspiracy Theories featuring more lies about CD based on zero evidence?

Using 9/11 truth nuts to back up your lie? What is your point, all the 9/11 truth "experts" have failed to produce any evidence for CD, thermite, or explosives; and you offer BS from other failed 9/11 truth CD fantasy people. Good one, exactly like think 77 flew around the Pentagon. 9/11 truth offers BS, and you believe it, and then claim you offer no belief on anything, as you make up BS to support the CD fantasy. You have no evidence for CD. So you Gish Gallop on BS.

If you keep talking about iron microspheres, you keep debunking thermite because no steel showed damage from thermite on 9/11. Big fail to keep repeating the lie from Jones and idiots in 9/11 truth who have the fantasy of thermite, and a fake paper with a false conclusion.

Cole is the topic, yet FF has offered no evidence to save Cole from being a failed 9/11 truth CD fantasy man. You offer the same, zero evidence.
 
beachnut said:
really a thread from Conspiracy Theories featuring more lies about CD based on zero evidence?

Using 9/11 truth nuts to back up your lie? What is your point, all the 9/11 truth "experts" have failed to produce any evidence for CD, thermite, or explosives; and you offer BS from other failed 9/11 truth CD fantasy people. Good one, exactly like think 77 flew around the Pentagon. 9/11 truth offers BS, and you believe it, and then claim you offer no belief on anything, as you make up BS to support the CD fantasy. You have no evidence for CD. So you Gish Gallop on BS.

If you keep talking about iron microspheres, you keep debunking thermite because no steel showed damage from thermite on 9/11. Big fail to keep repeating the lie from Jones and idiots in 9/11 truth who have the fantasy of thermite, and a fake paper with a false conclusion.

Cole is the topic, yet FF has offered no evidence to save Cole from being a failed 9/11 truth CD fantasy man. You offer the same, zero evidence.
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Can't admit that the experts denied freefall?
 
IF someone predicted the collapse and it happened, then their educated guess was right, anyone who predicts it can't collapse after it did, claiming it had to be CD are nuts.

Engineer predict things based on experience and observation somethings; if they are right, 9/11 truth has to make up BS which makes no sense.

9/11 truth has no evidence for CD, but predict CD after 9/11, and failed. Bad guesses, based on ignorance and insanity, or fraud?

Why is 9/11 truth such a pathetic failure? Overwhelming ignorance.

Why can't 9/11 truth believers, the CD ones, produce evidence to save Cole from looking nuts?

i can't believe someone predicting a collapse is proof of CD, or some idiotic CT... where did 9/11 truth pushers of idiotic claims logic run off to

wow - and I thought Cole was silly and pointless


It is all over when someone points to the BS from other 9/11 truth failed pushers of woo, with the classic BS...
symmetric free fall
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Proof 9/11 truth followers, and pushers of CD have no clue what math is, and symmetry is part of math, and was not seen on 9/11. Clueless misleading the more clueless, and proof of overwhelming ignornace is a staple of 9/11 truth clown show.
 
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beachnut said:
IF someone predicted the collapse and it happened, then their educated guess was right, anyone who predicts it can't collapse after it did, claiming it had to be CD are nuts.

Engineer predict things based on experience and observation somethings; if they are right, 9/11 truth has to make up BS which makes no sense.

9/11 truth has no evidence for CD, but predict CD after 9/11, and failed. Bad guesses, based on ignorance and insanity, or fraud?

Why is 9/11 truth such a pathetic failure? Overwhelming ignorance.

Why can't 9/11 truth believers, the CD ones, produce evidence to save Cole from looking nuts?

i can't believe someone predicting a collapse is proof of CD, or some idiotic CT... where did 9/11 truth pushers of idiotic claims logic run off to

wow - and I thought Cole was silly and pointless


It is all over when someone points to the BS from other 9/11 truth failed pushers of woo, with the classic BS...

Proof 9/11 truth followers, and pushers of CD have no clue what math is, and symmetry is part of math, and was not seen on 9/11. Clueless misleading the more clueless, and proof of overwhelming ignornace is a staple of 9/11 truth clown show.
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Yeah right, that guy predicted a total historical first with no basis. What are the odds? Would you bet your life on those odds? Thousands already have.
 
Not sure if Cole is a supporter of "symmetric free fall" BS. But when I see the "symmetric free fall" for describing the unsymmetrical collapse of three buildings, I have to admit we found overwhelming ignorance; is the BS claim of "symmetric free fall" used to fool those who can't think for themselves?

"Free-fall can only be from CD" is another failed tag-line, another idiotic illogical BS claim by 9/11 truth nuts who have no practical knowledge of physics and engineering.

""Free-fall can only be from CD" is stupid... why? Because CD uses tiny amounts of explosives, and E=mgh is released to do the work of CD, of destroying the building; 9/11 truth is so darn dirt dumb; it hurts to think about it.
CD uses a gravity collapse to do the destruction, not explosives; explosives are used to start the collapse, not destroy the building.

Where is the damage to steel from thermite? It does not exist. thermite belief is a sign of superior ignorance, or insanity.

Cole failed, 9/11 truth failed.
If there was evidence for 9/11 truth claim, I could take it and earn a Pulitzer Prize by teaming with a newspaper, and it would be bigger than Watergate; but there is no evidence, there will be no Pulitzer for a failed claim, a lie, and dumbed down fantasy of CD based on the ignorance of the people fooled by the claim.

Where is the evidence for CD; Cole failed to produce it, and FF and others are fooled.

Still the amount of BS about predicting the collapse, it hard to beat that failure in logic, but 9/11 truth can do it.
 
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FalseFlag said:
Are you sure that's the only mystery involving Barry Jennings?
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Yup. Pretty much everything else fails under minimal scrutiny.

MicahJava said:
I'm even more interested in what story Michael Hess told NIST in 2004 versus what story he told in 2008 after Barry died.
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Mr. Jennings was a solo act who portrayed Mr. Hess as baggage in every version of his fantasy. It was good to see Mr. Hess clear the air in 2008.
 
MicahJava said:
I'd say check out the videos that show the closest view of the North Tower. It's been 10 years and you aren't antiquated with the photographic record of 9/11? You can see with the naked eye the antenna falling before the perimeter on most up-close videos, no matter the angle.
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Gee, if only the Professional Engineers who were entrusted to conduct this investigation, had access to InvestiGoogle kids...

Note the date.

"WHY THE TOWERS FELL"
PBS Airdate: April 30, 2002

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2907_wtc.html

Gene Corley said:
GENE CORLEY: Looking at the films of the North Tower, it appears that the antenna starts down just a little bit before the exterior of the building. That suggests the core went first.
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Oh, wait ...
 
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FalseFlag said:
I don't know. I'm not an expert.
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So why do you insist on an experiment if you don't know what you are looking at - nor can you identify what would make you change your mind apparently. Falsifiability. Your position shows a lack of it.


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FalseFlag said:
I haven't gotten paid anything. I must be doing something wrong.
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Neither have I, yet I don't feel I am doing something wrong.

Some people travel the world making money out of 9/11, I assume you think they are doing something right?

It would be a different story if they had evidence to back up their claims.

How did or didn't it go with the U.K. Firefighters?
 
FalseFlag said:
1. That is not a logical fallacy. At best, it's nothing more than an error.

2. Pick any collapse time you want. Pick a time between 2.25 seconds and infinity. It does not matter what time you pick. Why? Simple. The roof line collapsed at freefall for approximately 2.25 seconds. The total collapse time is not nearly important as the 2.25 seconds of freefall.

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Why is that 2.25 second period important at all?

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Mentalpygmy said:
Why is that 2.25 second period important at all?

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You need to combine the 2.25 seconds with what shoes someone is wearing to get the answer ;)

In fact you can add anything you like into the mix to get the answer.
 
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MicahJava said:
1. Forum posts don't count

2. What are your experiments and what are the results?

3. What is the chemical makeup of that particle you're holding?

4. Forum posts don't count
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The results are Steven E. Jones's claims were stupid, nonsense.

The hollow Iron Oxide sphere, iron sphere, was from finely decided steel in a chimney effect.

No truther scientist ever tried recreating the actual fire environment, because they are idiots.
 
MicahJava said:
Yeah right, that guy predicted a total historical first with no basis. What are the odds? Would you bet your life on those odds? Thousands already have.
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The basis was the rate of change on a leaning building, as measured by a transit set on the building. Not so hard to figure out how much lean a building can take before it falls over.
 
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