If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

[NoahFence]

You people bring it on yourselves with your attacks on reality. Your attacks on the memories of the lives lost that day. This is a game for you, gage, and the rest.

It's pathetic. Yes, we all know no 47 story high rise building ever fell because of fire before.

Of course no 47 story building ever had a 110 story building land on it before either. Until you people come up with a plausible alternate scenario, you should and will be 'attacked'.
Just not nearly as bad as those you yourself attack. I could never stoop as low as you people.

 

[mike3]

I am not an expert. I don't need to be an expert to tell who is credible or not.

OK, so why is the 0.1% of gullibles credible WHILE THE 99.9% of engineers are NOT? Keep in mind that Engineers includes engineers from ALL OVER THE GLOBE. What, are all 99.9% "in on the conspiracy"? When, pray tell, do they get "initiated"? How does this conspiracy manage to be so ruthlessly effective that not only does it manage to play in 99.9% of all engineers on Earth but ALSO at the same time manages to remain TOTALLY undetected except to a small cadre of Internet debaters? Especially now with Wikileaks, Anonymous, and other whistleblowing type services ... why haven't any of THEM come up with anything? Why? 99.9% of engineers! Sheesh!

 

[mike3]

(rm)

 

[Steve001]

OK, so why is the 0.1% of gullibles credible WHILE THE 99.9% of engineers are NOT? Keep in mind that Engineers includes engineers from ALL OVER THE GLOBE. What, are all 99.9% "in on the conspiracy"? When, pray tell, do they get "initiated"? How does this conspiracy manage to be so ruthlessly effective that not only does it manage to play in 99.9% of all engineers on Earth but ALSO at the same time manages to remain TOTALLY undetected except to a small cadre of Internet debaters? Especially now with Wikileaks, Anonymous, and other whistleblowing type services ... why haven't any of THEM come up with anything? Why? 99.9% of engineers! Sheesh!

Yup, they are all of them colluding. Kinda makes me wonder how the Clinton bj wasn't kept a secret because that only involved a few people..

 

[FalseFlag]

OK, so why is the 0.1% of gullibles credible WHILE THE 99.9% of engineers are NOT? Keep in mind that Engineers includes engineers from ALL OVER THE GLOBE. What, are all 99.9% "in on the conspiracy"? When, pray tell, do they get "initiated"? How does this conspiracy manage to be so ruthlessly effective that not only does it manage to play in 99.9% of all engineers on Earth but ALSO at the same time manages to remain TOTALLY undetected except to a small cadre of Internet debaters? Especially now with Wikileaks, Anonymous, and other whistleblowing type services ... why haven't any of THEM come up with anything? Why? 99.9% of engineers! Sheesh!

I guess you did not watch the video.
I guess you ignore all of the evidence that exists. You claim that no one has come up with anything. That is nonsense. The issue is that people like you ignore it.

 

[NoahFence]

I guess you did not watch the video.
I guess you ignore all of the evidence that exists. You claim that no one has come up with anything. That is nonsense. The issue is that people like you ignore it.

None of you have ever even hinted that you can explain the entire day's events better than 19 terrorists and four planes

 

[FalseFlag]

Of course no 47 story building ever had a 110 story building land on it before either.

When did this happen? When did a 110 story building land on a 47 story building? This is amazing! How come I never heard of this? Do you have pictures? Do you have news articles? I mean, it seems like this would make the news.

Please, tell me more about this 110 story building landing on a 47 story building.

 

[FalseFlag]

None of you have ever even hinted that you can explain the entire day's events better than 19 terrorists and four planes

The AE911T people can't explain the entire day's events because it is outside the scope of their expertise. What they can do is prove that the official story can't be true. You should watch their videos and pay attention. If you did, you would see that your statement is not true.

 

[PhantomWolf]

The AE911T people can't explain

And apparently you can't either cause I'm still waiting for your answers. Why are you hiding from answering them?

I am still waiting on the answers to the following questions.

- In the WTC videos we see the columns bend inwards during the collapse initiation, as in the video below (1:20 mark). Where does Cole's video replicate this motion?



- In photos and videos of the collapse, including the one above, we see the outer columns topple from the side of the building and fall in a slow velocity parabolic arc. Where does Cole's Video replicate this motion?

- Why do the seismic recordings of the collapses not evidence of record any explosions even though in other cases of large explosions they have done so?

- What qualifies Cole or any of the other sources you link to as reliable?

- How could there be no physical traces of explosives, such as blasting caps, cables, or explosive cut steel, found in the debris, despite the thousands of man hours and thousands of people involved in the cleanup and investigations? And all without any leaks what-so-ever?

- Who would you consider Independent enough to conduct this new investigation?

- Considering that most of the steel is now gone, and there are only the photos and original testing results to go off, why do you assume that the outcome would be any different to the previous investigations?

- Are there any theories that are to way out there to be considered in this new investigation, or should theories have some form of evidence and at least be plausible before being considered?

- If such an investigation came back and stated that the Towers collapses were due to damage and resultant fires and that the collapse was a gravity driven propagation that didn't involve any explosives, would you accept it?

- Given that if the Government does then any investigators have an obvious conflict of interest, who do you think should pay for a new investigation?

 

[FalseFlag]

And apparently you can't either cause I'm still waiting for your answers. Why are you hiding from answering them?

I'm not hiding from anything.

I have already stated that I'm not going to put any serious effort into providing responses anymore. It's a waste of time.

 

[PhantomWolf]

I'm not hiding from anything.

I have already stated that I'm not going to put any serious effort into providing responses anymore. It's a waste of time.

I guess then we can take it that you have no serious interesting in a "new investigation" either since you won't answer the questions about that. As such why should anyone else take it seriously?

 

[FalseFlag]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation. The fact that I will no longer answer questions here has nothing to do that.

 

[Mentalpygmy]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation. The fact that I will no longer answer questions here has nothing to do that.

So why are you here then?

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[Cosmic Yak]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation. The fact that I will no longer answer questions here has nothing to do that.

So beyond not answering questions here, what have you personally done to get this investigation moving?

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation. The fact that I will no longer answer questions here has nothing to do that.

Why would anyone care about your new nonsense investigation, when you can't even get simple Newtonian physics right, and participate in a known fraud?

The usual truther tactic is to declair bias and run, truthers seem to be excellent
Runners lousy engineer, and Scientists.

 

[pgimeno]

The AE911T people can't explain the entire day's events because it is outside the scope of their expertise. What they can do is prove that the official story can't be true.

That doesn't suffice. Many people found that Newton's physics and Galileo's relativity were wrong, yet they weren't abandoned until Einstein provided a better replacement for both.

So, even if AE911T succeeded, which they haven't because they're focusing on the wrong premises (proving NIST wrong doesn't disprove that fire brought down the building, and they aren't even proving NIST wrong given their fire modelling), it's still a long way until providing a complete theory that can replace the current one and matches the overwhelming amount of evidence we have that supports the established narrative.

 

[turingtest]

That doesn't suffice. Many people found that Newton's physics and Galileo's relativity were wrong, yet they weren't abandoned until Einstein provided a better replacement for both.

So, even if AE911T succeeded, which they haven't because they're focusing on the wrong premises (proving NIST wrong doesn't disprove that fire brought down the building, and they aren't even proving NIST wrong given their fire modelling), it's still a long way until providing a complete theory that can replace the current one and matches the overwhelming amount of evidence we have that supports the established narrative.

Which you would think would be the actual point of any investigation- otherwise, all you have is endless nitpicking, a CTist's wet dream of eternal JAQ-ing off. It's why people keep telling them they need some sort of alternative theory that comprehensively explains the whole day's events better; without one, they're in the ridiculous position of demanding an "investigation" that reaches a non-conclusion as a conclusion, "conspiracy" as a place-keeper for a explanation. JFK CTists have done this for 50+ years, and kept the industry going by keeping the question alive with no intention of ever actually answering it. It's the mystery they want, not any real investigation that might resolve it.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Which you would think would be the actual point of any investigation- otherwise, all you have is endless nitpicking, a CTist's wet dream of eternal JAQ-ing off. It's why people keep telling them they need some sort of alternative theory that comprehensively explains the whole day's events better; without one, they're in the ridiculous position of demanding an "investigation" that reaches a non-conclusion as a conclusion, "conspiracy" as a place-keeper for a explanation. JFK CTists have done this for 50+ years, and kept the industry going by keeping the question alive with no intention of ever actually answering it. It's the mystery they want, not any real investigation that might resolve it.

Cters don't want to explain the events, they just want to increase the monetary gain from the defrauding the stupid and naive.
I actuality hope they are successful, in depriving dimwitted truthers of the nessisary means to make a comfortable living, because doing so, might keep dimwitted people from breeding. Though history shows it has not worked in the past.

 

[Steve001]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation. The fact that I will no longer answer questions here has nothing to do that.

What they can do is prove that the official story can't be true.

Why is the "official" story not true?

When you look at only modern history to the present day there are many acts of terrorism. Somewhere in that question lays the root of your angst. I really would love to here what causes it.

The first time I witnessed terrorism was live during the 1972 Olympics. Did you witness it?

 

[Myriad]

I'm very serious about getting a new investigation.

You might be serious about wanting a new investigation. Maybe.

Getting one? You're not doing anything that even remotely resembles taking the slightest step toward getting a new investigation. Neither is anyone else active in 9/11 truth at present.