Crazy Chainsaw
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Afraid why would I care enough about Cole at all, that's the whole point it is just another flea circus with truthers as the fleas.
If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II
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Afraid why would I care enough about Cole at all, that's the whole point it is just another flea circus with truthers as the fleas.
DGM
Skeptic not Atheist
Sorry, I've sat through too many of these things.
Have you been to one of Gages shows? I've been to two. I've met him (and we talked) and he knows who I am. He's actually a real likable guy in person.
I have way too many friends that were there(and paid the price) and the fact no one has ever presented a reasonable case for CD doesn't bode well with me.
I never asked, do you know any 9/11 victims directly?
I'll gladly cede my virtual seat at the webinar to all the journalists, politicians, district attorneys, insurance investigators, physics and engineering faculty members, judges, historians, activist leaders, heads of state and other movers and shakers who will no doubt be extremely interested in this vital issue.
Why waste bandwidth on already-convinced Truthers and irrelevant skeptics? In the interest of making sure Cole's message can get to the People Who Really Matter unimpeded, Truthers and skeptics should respectfully decline.
Why waste bandwidth on already-convinced Truthers and irrelevant skeptics? In the interest of making sure Cole's message can get to the People Who Really Matter unimpeded, Truthers and skeptics should respectfully decline.
cantonear1968
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WilliamSeger
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Or, Cole could stop hiding in his bubble of ignorance, playing heroic "researcher" to his ignorant audience, and try to defend his nonsense on public forums where the actual issues can be examined and cross-examined to whatever extent is necessary. One thing I can say about Tony Szamboti is that he at least has the courage to defend his opinions against critics, whereas Cole and Chandler are pathetic intellectual cowards.
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Maybe Cole knows that public forums with so-called experts are a waste of time. Where is Tony Szamboti, anyway? Maybe he has realized this as well and stopped posting.
You should watch the webinar yourself, and take the opportunity there to call him a coward. I'm sure he wants to waste time debating with people who are not engineers.
Nah, we'll let the front-running Presidential candidates and the media moguls and the Nobel Prize Committee members, who will all no doubt be watching closely, ask the questions.
NoahFence
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You don't honestly think that Cole would entertain questions from people who question his experiment do you?
ozeco41
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Agreed although it is a long time since Tony actually tried to defend his claims other than by bare assertion and personal insults.
He has never been strong on reasoned argument. He still occasionally ventures into false technical argument. But usually relies on bare assertion rather than reasoned support. Obvious why - he is rarely if ever correct. And he has been shown the error of his ways many times. ( I recently spoon fed him a half point win - but that is a more complicated situation. He was guessing and could not support his guess. I initially presented a wrong counter argument. So half a point to Tony.
)However he recently on another forum made a blatant error and followed it up with dishonest argument.
It started when he disagreed with my assertion that "removing a proportion of columns does not result in uniform redistribution of loads to the remaining columns". (Removing 25% of columns DOES NOT place uniform 33.3% load on all the other columns.)
And I hammered home the truth with my usual attention seeking "The redistribution is NEVER uniform and the real redistribution is always WORSE than uniform".
(Yes - I know the second "ALWAYS worse" must follow from the first but better to say it explicitly for those who are not thinking.)
So Tony disagreed with my demonstration model AND re-asserted that load redistribution is proportional to proportion of removed columns. (He was supporting a false "global factor of safety" argument BY use of a static FEA of columns removed - plus a couple of additional false premises.....)
AND then over several days repeated a second lie - that he had proven me wrong.
A rare moment of truth v untruth - he rarely attempts reasoned engineering these days - has lost too many rounds.
ozeco41
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He's still as active as usual - following his practice of "whistle stop tours" of different forums. Usually with a "tag team partner of opportunity". Recently on DebatePolitics and a drop in occasion on Metabunk IIRC.
abaddon
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LOL. You state that you have no clue and assert that you don't need one either.
It is to laugh.
Ask a question and find out.
NoahFence
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Right.
Listen, I already know the answer. He won't. Richard Gage didn't, and Cole won't. You people are intellectual cowards.
I'm pretty sure this is a personal attack. Will the mods do anything about it?
NoahFence
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No. Why? Anything I post will get moved. It's a waste of time. Stop calling people cowards simply because you don't know what else to do.
Crazy Chainsaw
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Cole would never answer any of my Questions no more than Steven E. Jones, or Niels Harrit, or Gage, no way frauds want the truth to be known.
I agree truthers have shown much intellectual dishonesty.
Crazy Chainsaw
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Why don't you your self ask why all Cole's experiments have critical flaws?
NoahFence
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It's still an attack.