IDF bans soldiers from shooting at stone throwers

[Thunder]

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=171731

They can no longer shoot at stone throwers, shoot in the air to discourage stone throwers, or even shoot at folks with Molotov-cocktails.

Now, I totally agree with not shooting stone throwers.

I partially agree with not shooting in the air, cause bullets eventually come down.

But not shooting at someone about to torch you or your vehicle with a gasoline bomb? that's a little nutty.

when did the IDF become soo......liberal?

 

[MG1962]

It does specify the solider must be in an armoured jeep for the molotov rule to be used

 

[Praktik]

Well I must say this is good news.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Pfft. Could care less about this regulation. When I'm going to do my reserve duty this summer, I'll shoot whoever tries to throw a molotov at me. I'll spend my time in military prison thank you very much

Hopefully this would force the brass to issue more anti-riot weaponry with every unit.

 

[Thunder]

When I'm going to do my reserve duty this summer, I'll shoot whoever tries to throw a molotov at me. I'll spend my time in military prison thank you very much

well then, hopefully the Palestinians won't throw fire bombs at you, so that they give you an opportunity to kill them.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Great. Now the jihadists can use people with rocks to pin down Israeli troops, make them hide behind things knowing they can't shoot back, while the guys with real weapons move into flanking positions.

It's amazing that Israel does these things knowing that it makes their soldiers jobs more difficult and dangerous and that the haters will never give them credit for it.

 

[332nd]

Great. Now the jihadists can use people with rocks to pin down Israeli troops, make them hide behind things knowing they can't shoot back, while the guys with real weapons move into flanking positions.

It's amazing that Israel does these things knowing that it makes their soldiers jobs more difficult and dangerous and that the haters will never give them credit for it.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this rule will wind up being similar to the US (when I was in anyway) rule about not using the .50 cal machine gun to shoot people, only vehicles and equipment. "I wasn't shooting at the soldiers. I was shooting at the Jeep behind the soldiers" Or in this case, "I wasn't shooting at the rock throwers. I was shooting at the guys with the guns behind the rock throwers."

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this rule will wind up being similar to the US (when I was in anyway) rule about not using the .50 cal machine gun to shoot people, only vehicles and equipment. "I wasn't shooting at the soldiers. I was shooting at the Jeep behind the soldiers" Or in this case, "I wasn't shooting at the rock throwers. I was shooting at the guys with the guns behind the rock throwers."

Did they actually tell you that?

I was told once that was just a military urban legend. Like the one about the soldier who was jailed after breaking his arm for "destruction of US government property".

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

Of course, there is no change in the IDF's long-standing policy of grinding Palestinians under the treads of their Merkevas for the crime of standing on their "promised land."

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

It's amazing that Israel does these things knowing that it makes their soldiers jobs more difficult and dangerous and that the haters will never give them credit for it.

Of course, there is no change in the IDF's long-standing policy of grinding Palestinians under the treads of their Merkevas for the crime of standing on their "promised land."

Inform Mr. Randi that I want my million in Canadian dollars.

 

[Thunder]

Great. Now the jihadists can use people with rocks to pin down Israeli troops, make them hide behind things knowing they can't shoot back, while the guys with real weapons move into flanking positions.

all Palestinian stone throwers...are "Jihadists"?

why don't you just call them "rock-throwing terrorists" while you are at it.

Here is a solution. Don't want Palestinians throwing rocks at you? Get the **** off their land and don't come back.

 

[tyr_13]

all Palestinian stone throwers...are "Jihadists"?

why don't you just call them "rock-throwing terrorists" while you are at it.

Here is a solution. Don't want Palestinians throwing rocks at you? Get the **** off their land and don't come back.

Hey parky, try reading again what was written.

"Jihadists can use stone throwers." That is in NO way saying all stone throwers are Jihadists.

Personally I think this is a great move by the IDF. However, I don't think they will get any credit for it. Goalpost moving is the default mechanism for Middle East politics.

 

[bigjelmapro]

Of course, there is no change in the IDF's long-standing policy of grinding Palestinians under the treads of their Merkevas for the crime of standing on their "promised land."

Don't know of many cases where merkavah tanks have indeed run over anybody...

 

[Architect]

I don't recall that we let our soldiers use real ammunition on unarmed stone throwers in NI (we did use plastic bullets, and not with great results) so heaven knows why Parky thinks the IDF require plaudits for something the rest of us twigged 40 years ago.

 

[foxholeatheist]

Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

In Iraq, rock throwers were shot. I don't know if they are throwing a grenade or a rock and in any case, I will err on the side of self preservation. Warning shots skip up and hit folks.

Bean bags and a Mossberg 500 would be good EOF in my opinion.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Don't know of many cases where merkavah tanks have indeed run over anybody...

Well, there was the case of the "Two-Dimensional Terrorist Tramp", Rachel Corrie.

But she was run down by a militarized D9 bulldozer while guarding a Hamas weapons cache, not a Merkava.

 

[The Fool]

Well, there was the case of the "Two-Dimensional Terrorist Tramp", Rachel Corrie.

But she was run down by a militarized D9 bulldozer while guarding a Hamas weapons cache, not a Merkava.

did that post require much courage? It would seem not.

at least you have set a certain goal for other pieces of human garbage to aspire to.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

did that post require much courage? It would seem not.

at least you have set a certain goal for other pieces of human garbage to aspire to.

I'd be just as cavalier if a KluKKer dropped a match accidentally lit his white dress on fire instead of his wooden cross.

If you've flown 6,000 miles to sign up with a group whose stated goal is the extermination of certain ethno-religious group, than I've pretty much lost any patience I might have for your antics.

I'm the kind of guy who thinks it's what's inside the counts. And I wasn't impressed with what Corrie had before it went squirting out her sides.

 

[Thunder]

Well, there was the case of the "Two-Dimensional Terrorist Tramp", Rachel Corrie.

do you know what misogyny is?

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

do you know what misogyny is?

You mean like when a member of Hamas beats his sister or daughter to death for the "crime" of being seen in public with a boy after 9 pm?

In the Gaza strip and the West bank it is believed that 3-4 women per month are killed in honour killings. Most of the honour killings are carried out by villagers and is extremly rare in the Palestinian cities and larger towns. The Palestinian authority rules with Jordanian law which gives men reduced punishment for killing a female relative if she has brought dishonour to the family. Due to Palestinian protests, Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian authority promised to change the discrimatory law by the year 2010 but has not yet fulfilled his promise and the law is still valid.