Ashles
From one original pair? That degree of genetic variety from one breeding pair in 6,000 years?
You’re still giving the YEC too much credit. Remember that Noah was an old when building the ark. And we’re talking biblical old as in hundreds of years, not to mention the generations that came before him. If I were in a masochistic mood I’d look up the exact age and then go reference the YEC timeline, but I’m not. They usually claim the flood took place roughly 4000 years ago.
Nick Harman
Answer: Both. Most of the bible literally. It is historical as indicated by archaeolgical records and findings. Secular writings confirm the kings talked about in the bible, etc.
While I agree that some of the Kings and other famous people as well as some countries and cities mentioned in the bible do have multiple sources, they by no means confirms the bible’s authenticity. It’s kind of like saying that all of Tom Clancy’s books are real because they mention real places.
A reading in Genesis is obviously to be taken literal, it is a historical account.
So the world is flat.
Ask a secular Hebrew scholar if the creation days are conveyed as literal days or periods of time and he will tell you days. So the question is truth, not figurative or literal.
I did, after getting a strange look on his face he proceeded to try and explain some of the symbolism contained within the Torah and why it shouldn’t be taken literally.
The whole silly flood thing.
Where did the water come from?
Answer: Genesis 7:11 (NKJV)
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up (inside the earth), and the windows of heaven were opened. (from above, i.e. canopy or intense global rain brought on by volcanic activity, opinions vary)
Work the math for this one, seriously. If you’re unable to do so then I’ll point you to a site that has done so already. Take the circumference of the earth and determine total land area. Once you’ve got that calculate the volume of water necessary to cover every mountain to a depth of at least 20 feet.
What is that volume of water and where did it come from and where is it now. The amount of water currently on earth is a paltry sum in comparison.
Actually it’s
Genesis 7
The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet.
This doesn’t even mention the problem of how did they breathe?
Where did the water go?
answer: you see it all over the earth: Psalm 104 refers to the mountains rising and the valleys sinking.
Where did all the water go? Where is it now? Sorry but your answer is meaningless in light of the evidence (water) we have available now. But the bible specifically references mountains that were used to land upon. The same mountains that were there before the flood started.
How many animals did Noah take on the ark?
How did they all fit on there?
How big was the ark?
answer: I addressed this to ashles, refer to that post.
No you didn’t. You made some vague ascertains and never actually addressed any of the questions.
Work the math for the buoyancy of the ark with and without the animals.
answer: I do not know, but the ark only needed to be a gigantic floating device not a craft built to go somewhere. Certainly not diminishing this as a simple task, but do not imagine him having to build a vessel like we see today.
Now work the math allowing only the building materials available at that time.
answer: Wood my friend, the earth was very different before the flood, bible refers to the land being gathered together. Plenty of trees. Pitch I assume as a sealant, and I have no problem believing they had the means, (hardware) to fasten together. I mentioned before we find artifacts that by evolutionary time scales should not be found.
Serious question, are you incapable of doing the math? Even grouping animals by
kinds (you still haven’t answered that little question either), the space available is woefully inadequate.
Go
here for a brief look at the flood story.
Go
here for a list of things you’ve yet to be ask.
Parasites. How did parasites, many of which cause life-threatening diseases exist while only Adam and Eve were on Earth? Did they have all those parasites?
Answer: Death is the penalty of sin, so until Adam sinned, there was no death and disease in the world per the bible.
Didn’t the flood supposedly happen
AFTER the fall? Attempt to answer the question instead of avoiding it.
Starlight: We can observe stars that are far more than 6000 LY away. How can their light reach us?
Answer: I would have to assume that light was "arrived" when God created it. This is certainly logical thinking if the bible is true.
Unsupported premise.
Or think about it this way, god deliberately lied to you by having light that appears to have been generated 10,000 years ago visible to us now.
Ossai
