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Split Thread ICE arrests mayor

JayUtah said:
The mayor was not attempting to enter the facility to engage in Congressional oversight.


Mayors have ultimate authority over compliance with building and occupancy requirements in their city.
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They have no authority to actually engage in building inspection. This is a absurd argument you are making.

Not sure why you persist with it.
 
Hercules56 said:
Its not a strawman if you think the chief executive of the City of Newark has the authority to perform inspections.
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You're just restating the straw man. I explained in detail the kind of oversight the mayor could do in his capacity as the chief executive officer of the city. Your stubborn insistence on cramming a different argument in my mouth doesn't address that.
 
JayUtah said:
You're just restating the straw man. I explained in detail the kind of oversight the mayor could do in his capacity as the chief executive officer of the city. ..
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You said the chief executive has the authority to do inspections and that is why the mayor was there.
 
Hercules56 said:
Ive been informed by @JayUtah that there is video evidence of ICE allowing in the group, knowing who is with them including the mayor. Id love to see this video.
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I'd love to see video of the Mayor somehow breaching the gates and trespassing. Until so, I'll believe he is innocent until proven guilty.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I'd love to see video of the Mayor somehow breaching the gates and trespassing. Until so, I'll believe he is innocent until proven guilty.
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No need to breach the gates to engage in trespassing.

ICE discovered that the mayor was with the group, he has no authority to engage in Congressional oversight, they asked him to leave, he refused, then complied after a final warning.

ICE decided to arrest anyway. Its their discretion to do so.
 
Hercules56 said:
No need to breach the gates to engage in trespassing.
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Asked and answered. If the officer opens the gate to allow a party to enter the perimeter, they are invitees and not trespassers. This is elementary occupancy law.

Hercules56 said:
ICE discovered that the mayor was with the group, he has no authority to engage in Congressional oversight, they asked him to leave, he refused, then complied after a final warning.
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If a license to remain is revoked, it cannot transform the prior presence into a trespass. The mayor was specifically told he was being arrested on suspicion of trespassing based on his prior presence inside the perimeter.

Hercules56 said:
ICE decided to arrest anyway. Its their discretion to do so.
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ICE arrested the mayor on public property, not at their discretion but at the direction of political DHS leadership.
 
Hercules56 said:
No need to breach the gates to engage in trespassing.

ICE discovered that the mayor was with the group, he has no authority to engage in Congressional oversight, they asked him to leave, he refused, then complied after a final warning.

ICE decided to arrest anyway. Its their discretion to do so.
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Really? How is it trespassing if a person is not actually on the premesis?
 
JayUtah said:
Asked and answered. If the officer opens the gate to allow a party to enter the perimeter, they are invitees and not trespassers. This is elementary occupancy law.


If a license to remain is revoked, it cannot transform the prior presence into a trespass. The mayor was specifically told he was being arrested on suspicion of trespassing based on his prior presence inside the perimeter.


ICE arrested the mayor on public property, not at their discretion but at the direction of political DHS leadership.
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And the Mayor of Newark, running for Governor, is NOT political?

Huh.

:rolleyes:
 
thaiboxerken said:
Really? How is it trespassing if a person is not actually on the premesis?
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He passed through the gates, putting him on ICE property. It appears one ICE person let him in, perhaps by mistake. Did the Mayor announce who he actually was? Did the person let him in by error?
 
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