I filled out the Census! Did you?

You don't have to and aren't supposed to. You are supposed to fill out the form for your primary residence, regardless of how many homes you own. Crews are working very hard to determine if any given house is primary or seasonal. But if no one is at the seasonal residence when the worker shows up, how is the worker to know the status? The resident might be at work, or might be in another state, for all they know. So, a census form is left at or mailed to each, just in case what looks like a seasonal or vacation home is actually a primary residence. If you have already filled out a form at your primary residence, and you arrive at your summer home and find another, you can safely ignore it.

By the way, the media reports that it costs an average of $12 to process each mailed-in form. But when an enumerator has to come to a home for whatever reason, that figure jumps up to around 5 times that.

If that's the way folks want to spend their tax dollars, be my guest. No skin off my nose.

And in spite of the colloquial term "human race," human is a species, not a race. But again, if that's how people want their tax dollars spent...don't come crying later about the cost. You had a chance to keep the expenses down. If you didn't want to take it, that's your choice, I suppose.

I can't believe how childish some people are being about this. And I don't care how I'm belittled and screamed at for my opinion. I still find it pretty childish.

I received 2 letters telling me they were going to send me the census forms.
I got the 2 census forms the same day a few days later. Both of which ask who lives in the residence as of April 1st 2010. Shortly after getting the forms, and well before 4/1, I received cards asking why I had not yet returned the forms.

So, they sent me 3 letters per residence right off the bat. The letters telling me they were going to send me letters upset me, as did the demand for the forms long before I was supposed to fill them out.

I presumed the cards demanding the return of the forms meant that I was required to return them. Both of them.
 
I received 2 letters telling me they were going to send me the census forms.
I got the 2 census forms the same day a few days later. Both of which ask who lives in the residence as of April 1st 2010. Shortly after getting the forms, and well before 4/1, I received cards asking why I had not yet returned the forms.

So, they sent me 3 letters per residence right off the bat. The letters telling me they were going to send me letters upset me, as did the demand for the forms long before I was supposed to fill them out.

I presumed the cards demanding the return of the forms meant that I was required to return them. Both of them.

Your answer is clear in the official census FAQ

22. What if this address is not a residence or home?
If there is an apartment, mobile home, room or group of rooms where people
live or stay at this address, then a household member who is at least 15 years of age can fill out and return the form by mail in the postage-paid envelope provided. If the address is nonresidential or if people do not live or stay at that address, then do not complete the form. A census worker will visit the address to verify that it is nonresidential and remove the address from the master address list. If you receive additional letters or forms in the mail, simply ignore them.


http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...Sd046y&sig=AHIEtbTeMrH1kyGL2Sd9AyJSpHPdOqpmGw

They sent multiple letters because it costs an extra $45 for each house they need to send a census worker to. The numbers are around here somewhere, but they did the research that the extra mailings, along with the media campaign would more than pay for themselves if they increased mail response by, I think less than 1%.
 
If you have already filled out a form at your primary residence, and you arrive at your summer home and find another, you can safely ignore it.

How will the census folks know that no one uses my house as a primary residence if I ignore the census form? My dog is out back because I can't keep her at my apartment. I often refer to the house as her house. My other car is usually parked at the house as I own two and swap them out from time to time and I can't park 2 cars at my apartment. Utilities are maintained there for the occasional visits and for heat in the winter, etc. I have mail delivered there for convenience. I have to keep the grass mowed and the place looking fairly presentable or the city send me a threatening letter.

To anyone looking, it looks as though the house is occupied.
 
How will the census folks know that no one uses my house as a primary residence if I ignore the census form? My dog is out back because I can't keep her at my apartment. I often refer to the house as her house. My other car is usually parked at the house as I own two and swap them out from time to time and I can't park 2 cars at my apartment. Utilities are maintained there for the occasional visits and for heat in the winter, etc. I have mail delivered there for convenience. I have to keep the grass mowed and the place looking fairly presentable or the city send me a threatening letter.

To anyone looking, it looks as though the house is occupied.

They'll send out a census worker who will knock on the door and go on his way. They won't penalize you because they have a form with your name on it.
 
They don't need to send out a census worker. I sent in the form with the correct info on it. No residents, and I own the home outright.

The last thing I wanted was a census worker visit after the last time. Pain in the ass. :D
 
A lot of folks would never see an internet FAQ. Like most of my family. Few of my family use computers at all.

The answer in the FAQ doesn't seem to fit my house.

There's a toll-free number that went out with the second mailing (I'm pretty sure the the first too, I don't have that paper anymore)

It's available 13 hours a day, seven days a week, with a separate line for the hearing impaired.

Failing that, a census worker would visit them in a few weeks and answer all their questions.

The answer in the FAQ fits your house exactly.
If the address is nonresidential or if people do not live or stay at that address, then do not complete the form.
 
There's a toll-free number that went out with the second mailing (I'm pretty sure the the first too, I don't have that paper anymore)

It's available 13 hours a day, seven days a week, with a separate line for the hearing impaired.

Failing that, a census worker would visit them in a few weeks and answer all their questions.

The answer in the FAQ fits your house exactly.

Just what I want to do. Call the US Government with a question. :D

You are perfectly free to think that just abandoning the form will work, but I disagree.
 
Just what I want to do. Call the US Government with a question. :D

You are perfectly free to think that just abandoning the form will work, but I disagree.

If you have a question, that's a good way to get it answered.

I can't imagine how they could have spelled it out more explicitly that you don't need to send in the form for a property where no one lives.

I guess you can only lead a horse to water.
 
I filled out the official census, in case you were implying otherwise.

The Census bureau has other quasi-legal tasks that they busy themselves with, and are damn quick to resort to bullying tactics.

They picked my apartment "at random", and started asking me a bunch of questions. They told me I could stop answering at any time.

I answered more questions than anything in the census. They started getting more and more personal, so I decided it was time to shut them down.

So they started trying to intimidate me for weeks. It was enough to make me seek legal advice and to tell them to talk to my attorney.

So no. They didn't try to grab my guns, but they're no longer welcome in my home.

This didn't happen.
 
How does one ensure equal representation in congress for all "races" without demographic information?
One person, one vote, no poll tax or other barrier to exercising the right to vote.

They sent multiple letters because it costs an extra $45 for each house they need to send a census worker to. The numbers are around here somewhere, but they did the research that the extra mailings, along with the media campaign would more than pay for themselves if they increased mail response by, I think less than 1%.
I wonder how they figure $45 per house. Even if the census workers are getting $20/hour (and I think they're mostly getting less than that) and visit each residence an average of two times, that still seems like less than one visit per hour. They must figure on having tea and cookies at each stop.
 
One person, one vote, no poll tax or other barrier to exercising the right to vote.


I wonder how they figure $45 per house. Even if the census workers are getting $20/hour (and I think they're mostly getting less than that) and visit each residence an average of two times, that still seems like less than one visit per hour. They must figure on having tea and cookies at each stop.

Workers must make up to six attempts to reach the person at their home.

Add to that travel time, training time and paid trainers (scaled to the number needed to reach all nonresponding individuals), call centers, additional forms and paperwork, and all that silly overhead stuff that you never think of.
 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011111456_censusfortune18m.html

I could go on all day, though... :D

I'm sure glad I saved a $45 visit to my house... :D

I'm sure you could go on all day in ignorance.

Every 1% increase in mail participation saves the census $85 million dollars. The advertising campaign was funded with that well in mind and is expected to net a significant savings.

You should call up Coca Cola about all the money they're throwing away on advertising :)
 

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