I can get EVP's

[Apology]

The only confusion among everyone who heard it was did the thing answer "Ëlouise" or "Louise."?

Which is it? Eloise, or Louise? Maybe it's "please", or even "cheese" or "fleas". The fact that all of you talked about it to each other means there's no longer a chance at independent verification. If each person had listened to the EVP without discussing it with each other, written down what they heard on a piece of paper and put it in an envelope, opened the envelopes at the end and compared what they'd written, and all of them had written either "Eloise" or "Louise" this might have worked. As it is, one person said "I think it says Louise!" and everyone else said, "Yeah, yeah, it is. Well maybe it's Eloise, but it's Louise something for sure."

But what is heard on the recording is unmistakeable.

So which is it? Louise or Eloise?

 

[Apology]

I'm not trying to be harsh or anything, I'm just trying to help you work through this thing logically

 

[mayday]

When I played it to people-different people in different places--I never told them what to listen for, for your information. But when that part came up their eyes always got big and (most) thought it said "Louise." Then some people thought it said Ëlouise." There wasn't any confusion as to whether it was a baby crying or someone passing gas. THey all heard a female child's voice.

You must think I don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain. Of course I took these kinds of things into account and did not put suggestions about what they would hear into their minds.

 

[CLD]

I think theories of radio interference and signal interruption are plausible. But it still doesn't explain the (sometimes) interactive EVP's.

Do you think Pareidolia and Confirmation_bias might be more likely explanations than disembodied entities using some unknown method of communication?

A few questions I'd ponder:

-Why do ghosts, spirits and paranormal stuff avoid manifesting in the midst of university laboratories and mainstream research facilities?

-Why do ghosts and spirits only deign to manifest themselves to amateur hobbyists in out of the way locations with loose or no controls?

-If ghosts and spirits can generate some amount of RF energy which can be amplified by audio circuits and detected (or manipulate digital and magnetic media), why aren't global communications, information technology, consumer devices, audio and video entertainment media, etc. flooded with chatter from the spirit world?

-Why haven''t the millions of technical professionals whose job it is to study, develop, optimize and protect the integrity of electronic media detected any evidence of spirit energy, disembodied voices, etc. whatsoever?

I can't believe you have only been able to hear noise that was a different interperetation with each person who heard it, because the tape I have NO ONE had any doubt about what was said. The only confusion among everyone who heard it was did the thing answer "Ëlouise" or "Louise."? I will say I scoured the courthouse records for a girl who may have lived there by that or a similar name but came up with nothing. But what is heard on the recording is unmistakeable.

So you're scouring courthouse records for a name to match one you feel you heard on an audio recorder? Why? Do you believe in hauntings?

 

[Ducky]

You must think I don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain.

The thought had crossed my mind. Did you read the study linked in the EVP article discussing the psychology of your perceptions filling in gaps?

 

[godless dave]

In the EVP article link I gave there's an interesting study in which core tones of acoustic speech were stripped from the timbre of the recording leaving only tones and when given no context, people didn't hear anything but noise, but when told they were listening for a sentence (and not told what that sentence is) they heard speech. In other words, the brain can fill in to hear things that may or may not be there.

My cognitive psych professor demonstrated the ability of the brain to do this by playing Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards. If you're not prepped for what the "backwards message" is supposed to be, it just sounds like music played backwards.

 

[LawnOven]

When I played it to people-different people in different places--I never told them what to listen for, for your information. But when that part came up their eyes always got big and (most) thought it said "Louise." Then some people thought it said Ëlouise." There wasn't any confusion as to whether it was a baby crying or someone passing gas. THey all heard a female child's voice.

You must think I don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain. Of course I took these kinds of things into account and did not put suggestions about what they would hear into their minds.

Did you tell these different people in different places the question you asked "it" beforehand?

Because if you did that would already limit the sound to being a name.

 

[Alareth]

What does this mean? Like you had a conversation with your toaster?

"My toaster is possessed by the Devil!"

"Really?"

"Yes! Really!"

"Why do you think that?"

"It talks and says cruel and horrible things."

"Why don't you get rid of it?"

"Are you kidding? It makes great toast."

 

[LawnOven]

Did anybody else follow this link from the wikipedia EVP page?
http://aaevp.com/examples.htm

Take a look at their examples of faces, its almost sad how desperatly these people want to believe. They manipulate a blank wall to bring out a face.

As for EVP's or any other evidence you have it needs to be presented in an orderly manor with full disclosure of any work done to it, chain of custody, ect. Otherwise you are on your own pal.

Man I never see what I'm supposed to see, just for the fun of it I'm going to post an "over-lay" of the face I saw in that picture of the wall. Forget the tiny one, mine is a giant head! Maybe I should send my findings into that website. I'm doing great things over here.

 

[wahrheit]

The picture the family gave me wasn't a ghost picture

I know, and never said otherwise. But it shows the guy who you say can also be seen in the picture you took. You implied it showed the previous home owner. So, both pictures together are important, not only yours.

I am sure you have a friend or know someone with a scanner. Once you have scanned the pictures you can upload them to the internet. Either here or on any of the countless free online services.

 

[mayday]

Did you tell these different people in different places the question you asked "it" beforehand?

Because if you did that would already limit the sound to being a name.

No, I certainly didn't.

 

[mayday]

My cognitive psych professor demonstrated the ability of the brain to do this by playing Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" backwards. If you're not prepped for what the "backwards message" is supposed to be, it just sounds like music played backwards.

I like this version MUCH better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEEnWEaeRk

 

[CLD]

You know what I notice? They use the worst examples of alleged ghost photography to make a point. There's an old tree in the woods by our house that looks like an old man with a long beard...sorry to disappoint the woo-hunters but that's all it is: a novelty.

That damn tv deal with the faces showing up on it, though...they said that face was the woman's dead sister? I'd throw that tv out. They tried to say that baby was taking it's first steps so the camera should have been more focused on the boy but it just looked like the boy was pulling up on the couch and the camera may have been pointed a little off, it has happened to me many times.

Even the author of that site admitted it was unusual if it wasn't tampered with.

And I had to look pretty hard to see a face on that wall. If it hadn't been pointed out I doubt I nor most others would have ever noticed it.

When I was reading that website I felt like I was reading a copy The Watchtower put out by the Jehova's Witnesses.

Let's see some more serious stuff than that.

Um, there is no "more serious stuff" than that. Like most bunk, believers have attempted to make communication with the dead sound like some kind of a "science". It ain't. EVP is a term made up by a UK publisher in 1970 to boost sales of an English translation of a German manuscript obtained from a wackjob named Raudive (in the book, Raudive gleefully cites recordings of Hitler and Stalin bickering in the afterlife). Since then, other wacknuts have added their own spin to the original fruitcake beliefs.

 

[Biscuit]

I see, much to my dismay, we have managed to get back on topic. I just need to clarify a few things.

1. So the lady believes the haunted coffee pot broke the neck of her pet lizard and she now fears for the safety of her other lizard? Why can't this stuff happen to me?!

2. So hotpatootie, you quoted my bit about providing the evidence with chain of custody and all but completely ignore the request. Instead you tell us stories about how everyone has verified your EVP's and they are unmistakable...well congratulations you have convinced this skeptic!

Seriously if you have nothing more than your word you are wasting your time if you think anyone here will take that as proof. Until you can provide the evidence you need to stop making claims.

I am off to find out if my juicer is haunted.

 

[Alice Shortcake]

Man I never see what I'm supposed to see, just for the fun of it I'm going to post an "over-lay" of the face I saw in that picture of the wall. Forget the tiny one, mine is a giant head! Maybe I should send my findings into that website. I'm doing great things over here.

Unless I'm very much mistaken that's Igor Stravinsky!

 

[Apology]

I am off to find out if my juicer is haunted.

What if your waffle iron is implanting the suggestion that the juicer is haunted in order to draw suspicion away from itself!!

 

[mayday]

Without you all with me there could be nothing verifiable anyway.

 

[slingblade]

Huh?

 

[Minarvia]

Without you all with me there could be nothing verifiable anyway.

I'm sorry, but that sentence makes no sense. Try again?

Anyway, welcome! But you will find that we do want some level of actual solid evidence for such incredible claims as EVP's being from dead people.
I was once where you were in believing that they could be real. I'm not saying you should change your mind, but that many of us do understand where you are coming from, but having abandoned those ideas we aren't likely to go back to them. At least not unless something more reliable than anecdotes and the impossibility of other causes have been ruled out.

 

[TheAnachronism]

I'm sorry, but that sentence makes no sense. Try again?

I think he means that without all of us participating in the recording session, we won't believe him.

On the original topic:

What I find odd is that we know that pareidolia exists, and yet EVP researchers would have us believe that it's never in the history of EVP led someone to mistake normal noises for EVP. That in itself would be a phenomenon.