Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

Dutch, I'll try to lay this out step by step (a concept you do not seem to be familiar with.)

• As skeptics, we usually do not unilaterally reject any new concepts that come along
• Because we tentatively accept any thesis that comes along, it is useful to have a "quick list" of things to check a new idea against to see if it requires further study. Without such a list, we'd spend our entire lives chasing all sorts of hare-brained ideas.
• The red flags of woo is such a useful quick list
• We did a quick comparison of HDD against the red flags of woo list and discovered it hit most of the points
• Thus, we quickly determined your thesis did not provide anything useful
• You protested our rejection was premature and insisted that there was something useful to HDD
• Therefore we pulled out a second and more comprehensive tool for investigating claims, the list of logical fallacies
• A detailed comparison of HDD against the list of logical fallacies shows that HDD exhibits almost every feature on that list
• Therefore, based on a more detailed analysis of HDD, we are confident in our rejection of it

again you are talking as if you are the queen of England... or the Netherlands. Who is We?

 

[Dutch]

I notice you completely failed to understand why I started talking about teapots.

To recap,


To which I said,

Now, despite the fact that science can't rule out the existence of a teapot in orbit, why don't any scientists believe such a teapot exists?

because this comparisson is way off the fundamental karmic issues we have to deal with.

 

[Dutch]

If what you're doing is not science, why did you put this thread into Science, Mathematics, and Technology?

It fits everywhere, because its the base of everything. If YOU think its doesn't belong here but somewhere else for whatever reason, than take care of it if that makes you feel better.
Personally I don't care less where it is posted, but putting it here in this section isn't probably a coincidence either

And if you consistently put research inside quotation marks, does that indicate you're not really doing research, either?

? I think I have said that numerous times. you are right of course, but do you 'understand' why I put it inside quotation marks

 

[Dutch]

'potentially there to give expression',that has no meaning.I don't care because there is nothing to care about,your whole scheme is a fantasy. Antwoord in Nederlands,maar ik denk dat het weining verschil zal maken,het is kul in een heel grote pak in welke taal dan ook.

nothing to care about.....

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?

by the thousands?

 

[Dutch]

And what did we do 65 millions years ago to cause an asteroid to hit the Earth and cause the extinction of dinosaurs (except for the birds) and other species extinction, and all the other stuff that happened for 4.3 billion years before we got here.

Paul

The dinosaurs didn't detonate a nuclear device, did they?

 

[dafydd]

because this comparisson is way off the fundamental karmic issues we have to deal with.

What proof do you have for the existence of karma?

 

[dafydd]

nothing to care about.....

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?

by the thousands?

I live in Kalmthout,Belgium.A quiet little town,nobody has ever been shot here.You are sounding more and more like a looney with every post.What on earth is that supposed to mean? get back to reality before it is too late.I am worried about your mental condition,really.I am.

 

[dafydd]

Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
And what did we do 65 millions years ago to cause an asteroid to hit the Earth and cause the extinction of dinosaurs (except for the birds) and other species extinction, and all the other stuff that happened for 4.3 billion years before we got here.

Paul


We were not around then Dutch.Do you not realise how insane this sounds?

 

[AWPrime]

That wouldn't be a good idea. i don't think you understand what I'm trying to tell, regardless the language

It pretty obvious that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, or are even deliberately ignorant, as you continue to ignore the meaning of words. Even the name HDD is a collection of such misused words.

Who is We?

In this thread that would be everyone but you.

because this comparisson is way off the fundamental karmic issues we have to deal with.

And you have yet to show that karma actually matters. Even then you can't take all the actions of everyone into account.

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?

by the thousands?

Resorting to the emotional appeals now? How shallow....

 

[Blue Mountain]

Dutch, I'll try to lay this out step by step (a concept you do not seem to be familiar with.)

• As skeptics, we usually do not unilaterally reject any new concepts that come along
• Because we tentatively accept any thesis that comes along, it is useful to have a "quick list" of things to check a new idea against to see if it requires further study. Without such a list, we'd spend our entire lives chasing all sorts of hare-brained ideas.
• The red flags of woo is such a useful quick list
• We did a quick comparison of HDD against the red flags of woo list and discovered it hit most of the points
• Thus, we quickly determined your thesis did not provide anything useful
• You protested our rejection was premature and insisted that there was something useful to HDD
• Therefore we pulled out a second and more comprehensive tool for investigating claims, the list of logical fallacies
• A detailed comparison of HDD against the list of logical fallacies shows that HDD exhibits almost every feature on that list
• Therefore, based on a more detailed analysis of HDD, we are confident in our rejection of it

again you are talking as if you are the queen of England... or the Netherlands. Who is We?

The answer to your question is in the first line:

As skeptics, we usually do not unilaterally reject any new concepts that come along

Therefore, "we" is primarily Paul, Paulhoff, AWPrime, Daffyd, and me, all of whom are currently engaging you in this thread. They have not objected to my use of the term, so I'm assuming they agree with the post.

It is also everyone else who applies a skeptical eye toward HDD and decides it does not merit further study.

I notice you chose to nitpick on one single word in my post as opposed to commenting on its substance. That means you failed to understand it, or you understood it and are deliberately avoiding addressing the issues raised.

Your behaviour here is becoming incorrigible.

 

[Paul]

I have no problem understanding you

That wouldn't be a good idea. i don't think you understand what I'm trying to tell, regardless the language

You don't have to simplify, its simple enough

That could be

again you are talking as if you are the queen of England... or the Netherlands. Who is We?

Very well, in light of your dual insistence that you understand everything we say to you and that you don't, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that you are either genuinely ignorant, or that you are deliberately feigning ignorance. However, as Blue Mountain says, your grasp of everyday English and your understanding of the royal we makes the latter more likely.

Of course, whatever the situation, resorting to childish attempts at insults as a response is no substitute for having an argument to use.

 

[Blue Mountain]

because this comparisson is way off the fundamental karmic issues we have to deal with.

This is very confusing ... the words are English, but you're talking a different language.

 

[Paul]

because this comparisson is way off the fundamental karmic issues we have to deal with.

You might, and indeed do seem to, have unresolved guilt issues with everything that ever happened anywhere, but I'm fine thanks.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?
by the thousands?

Right back at you, Dutch: what did YOU do to prevent it?

And how will HDD prevent such an atrocity in the future?

 

[Paul]

I think I have said that numerous times. you are right of course, but do you 'understand' why I put it inside quotation marks

So you don't do science or research, why the insistence of mentioning them all the time?

 

[Paul]

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?

by the thousands?

Do you come from Srebrenica? or Bosnia and Herzegovina? because if not, as bad as it was, it wasn't your family or even your countrymen that were killed. It wasn't my fault and as much as you seem to enjoy wallowing in the guilt, it wasn't yours either (unless you are a war criminal).

 

[Paul]

The dinosaurs didn't detonate a nuclear device, did they?

You see, that is a good example of you deliberately ignoring the question under the pretence of not understanding it.

If you want to make your claims stand up, you have to be prepared to defend them against perfectly reasonable questions about events which don't fit with your views.

 

[Typicallucas]

Wow... just wow.

 

[Paulhoff]

The dinosaurs didn't detonate a nuclear device, did they?

So, why are they gone............. If you think that means anything.

Paul

 

[dafydd]

nothing to care about.....

Sounds pretty normal to you that one day in your hometown the man and boys are seperated from their family and shot to death?

by the thousands?

Oh,I didn't get the Srebenica reference,your posts are mostly incomprehensible.What does that have to do with the subject under discussion? Referring to random past events and spuriously linking them via HDD does not impress.If you can accurately predict some future event using HDD then I will be impressed,but you can't do that can you?