Hyper Dimensional Design

[Dutch]

You abuse Mandela's passing.

in what sense?

 

[Daylightstar]

in what sense?

By inappropriately attempting to prop up an unsubstantiated irrational belief with (in this case) Mandela's passing. It doesn't really prop up your irrational belief, but you want it to be so and act accordingly.

You display abusive conduct in your irrational belief.

 

[Blue Mountain]

It was during the summer of 2004 that I was involved with this HDDesign 'research' ( in the very early stage of development ) that I had this idea that something would happen to a leading figure at world stage during the timeframe of september 2-3, 2004. First of all: I don't see the future, I have to decipher it myself aswel. Closer to the timeframe I narrowed it down to the evening of september 2 Eastern US time. I thought it would be related to the Pope but it was Clinton who suffered a heart problem that evening.
Later, this predetermined timeframe of the september 2 became the source of future determinations in relation to the Pope. resulting in 2 hospitalizations of JPII on predetermined timeframes based on the elements of HDDesign and eventually resulting in his final exit on April 1, 2005 ( as determined in advance).
Yes I know Pope JPII died on April 2, as we came to know, but I pretty much sure he already died on April 1, 24 hours earlier. ( this because of the great detail I did my 'research' back then ). It was in 2004 that I began to understand the impact of leading figures and that they are interchangeable in the understanding of how it will eventually be expressed. That's why I use the term 'Sun King'.

US Precidency ( ex-Presidents in subtle forms of expression), Papacy and even tabloid versions like Micheal Jackson.

After the exit of JP II I've hooked on an identified underlying timecoded pattern that started off as the 'exit of Sun King timecoded pattern' but later transformed into the Grand Cross orbital alignment pattern. All related threads are still available for review in the material, unadjusted, just how it was logged back then). One of this orbital positions of this Grand Cross corresponds with the exit of Michael Jackson and Mandela's health issues this year.

Around December 24 would be the next hit on this pattern

Well? Which Sun King exited yesterday?

And when do you intend to provide the calculations you use to determine the dates? We've been asking this question for six months now.

 

[Orphia Nay]

Because it has been changed overtime aparently. I have told you before that I'don't really want to be an administrator of a forum ( HDDesign forum) , but I was forced to do so because in the past the material was lost time after time again when I was posting under the umbrella of so called friends. These were all dot.com's and I have lost the material several times years ago. That's why I was forced to start my own forum on a .nl, only to log the material. It has never been, and it still isn't, my objective to maintain an own forum.
So you can imagine that HDDesign forum is primarily used to log the material.
I, for one, don't take a look at it in order to improve it's performance. That just isn't the main objective. I have probably listed this thread in the past on the forum, but as you might know it has been replced over time. For me that is irrelevant, if you can imagine. I do not spend my precious time on maintaining the HDDesign forum, I use it to log it realtime

I'm not sure I understand. Don't you want to teach about HDD? Don't you think it's important?

 

[Dutch]

Well? Which Sun King exited yesterday?

And when do you intend to provide the calculations you use to determine the dates? We've been asking this question for six months now.

The orbital positions of the Grand Cross are logged in the HDDesign material in a dedicated thread on the main forum, you should know because it has been discussed here before and it has been mentioned.

Back in June Mandela gave expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme during a Grand Cross orbital position

 

[Dutch]

I'm not sure I understand. Don't you want to teach about HDD? Don't you think it's important?

It is important yes that it becomes part of consciousness

 

[Mister Earl]

And when do you intend to provide the calculations you use to determine the dates? We've been asking this question for six months now.

Some of us have been barking up that tree for seven years. Dutch isn't going to change. He'll stick to the general and vacuous form of HDD he's using now, because it's only in that form that it can exist. Well, in his mind, anyway. Scrutinize too much, and the plausibility of it vanishes.

 

[Orphia Nay]

It is important yes that it becomes part of consciousness

How do you plan for that to happen if you don't write down the methodology and address the criticisms?

 

[Blue Mountain]

The orbital positions of the Grand Cross are logged in the HDDesign material in a dedicated thread on the main forum, you should know because it has been discussed here before and it has been mentioned.

Back in June Mandela gave expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme during a Grand Cross orbital position

Sorry, Dutch, those are not acceptable answers.

First, you definitely indicated something would be happening on the Exit of the Sun King motif round about December 24. So what happened?

Also, we (well, I) have been asking you to post your calculations on how you arrive at the dates in the "Exit of the Sun King" motif in this thread. In fact, in my original request I specifically asked you not to hand-wave it away by saying "Look it up on my forum."

 

[Little 10 Toes]

The orbital positions of the Grand Cross are logged in the HDDesign material in a dedicated thread on the main forum, you should know because it has been discussed here before and it has been mentioned.

Back in June Mandela gave expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme during a Grand Cross orbital position

Please show cite of where "Mandela gave expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme".

 

[The Man]

I don't use mandela's death, its just a hit on the patterns, as many before and many will do

Ah, so you "don't use mandela's death" except when you try to use it as "just a hit on the patterns" that actually missed the date as have, by your own previous assertions, "many before and many will do".

Dutch, contradicting yourself, making up fantasies that about being ‘on ice’ or effectively dead on the date you want and even coming up with some other pattern (another Venus transition) after the fact. Still don’t alleviate your own assertions indicative of the fact that you can’t do any better than just chance.

 

[Dutch]

Some of us have been barking up that tree for seven years. Dutch isn't going to change. He'll stick to the general and vacuous form of HDD he's using now, because it's only in that form that it can exist. Well, in his mind, anyway. Scrutinize too much, and the plausibility of it vanishes.

As a matter of fact HDDesign puts historic events into perspective in the first place. The assassination of Mohamad 2 days ago has HDDesign written all over it. It could help us to understand why events are happening and the underlying HDDesign enables us to understand that nothing just happens by chance. We find ourselves 'awake' in a 3D ( or 4 with time, which I prefer) environment and our limited and rigid minds can't see through our reality that in fact everything is connected. We must try to think inter-dimensionally and also verify this rationally. That is, if we truly want evolution of inter-dimensional consciousness.

But even if we don't want this consciously, it will happen sub-consciously. By sharing it becomes part of inter-dimensional consciousness. That's how we contribute.

It would help exponetially though, if some of us could wrap their minds arround this concept. That would give a boost to inter-dimensional evolution of consciousness

 

[Dutch]

How do you plan for that to happen if you don't write down the methodology and address the criticisms?

How can I plan intuitive thoughts and synchronicities? I have to be humble and wait to see what happens. It could show up at any time, but not at will.

We aren't living in an environment that is subject and limited to our own conscious behavior only, you know

But that's where we probably differ in understanding. That's the main problem in explaining to you

 

[Dutch]

Sorry, Dutch, those are not acceptable answers.

First, you definitely indicated something would be happening on the Exit of the Sun King motif round about December 24. So what happened?

Also, we (well, I) have been asking you to post your calculations on how you arrive at the dates in the "Exit of the Sun King" motif in this thread. In fact, in my original request I specifically asked you not to hand-wave it away by saying "Look it up on my forum."

I have already answered here that I think Mandela already left the building around Grand Cross orbital position back in June. I use the term 'exit' for a very specific reason. It depends how you look at conscious expression in our limited 3- ( or 4 ) D reality. At Grand Cross Mandela was finding expression of consciousness at another level that you are used to and will probably dismiss.

The announcement on December 5, 2013 of his actual passing here is coherent with the start of the "exit of Sun King" theme as logged in the HDDesign material. The latter suggests manipulation ( by us ), at least to my understanding.

Both threads are found in the main forum of HDDesign, with dedicated threads.

If you want me to help you with verifying, than I can also expect from you to do your research first. It's all there. I can't help the unwilling

 

[The Man]

How can I plan intuitive thoughts and synchronicities? I have to be humble and wait to see what happens. It could show up at any time, but not at will.

We aren't living in an environment that is subject and limited to our own conscious behavior only, you know

But that's where we probably differ in understanding. That's the main problem in explaining to you

Once again positing your "intuitive thoughts" and one dimensional numerology as something hyperdimensional is anything but "humble".

 

[The Man]

I have already answered here that I think Mandela already left the building around Grand Cross orbital position back in June. I use the term 'exit' for a very specific reason. It depends how you look at conscious expression in our limited 3- ( or 4 ) D reality. At Grand Cross Mandela was finding expression of consciousness at another level that you are used to and will probably dismiss.

The announcement on December 5, 2013 of his actual passing here is coherent with the start of the "exit of Sun King" theme as logged in the HDDesign material. The latter suggests manipulation ( by us ), at least to my understanding.

Both threads are found in the main forum of HDDesign, with dedicated threads.

If you want me to help you with verifying, than I can also expect from you to do your research first. It's all there. I can't help the unwilling

Help verifying what? That "Mandela was finding expression of consciousness at another level"? Perhaps verifying that anything "suggests manipulation ( by us )"? What apparently needs no verifying is that nothing can dissuade you from just imagining you must be right.

 

[Dutch]

Please show cite of where "Mandela gave expression of the 'exit of Sun King' theme".

I already did a few pages back

I've posted on HDDesign forum on Gran Cross orbital position back in June:

Nelson Mandela 'unresponsive and has not opened his eyes for days' as family 'discuss withdrawing medical treatment'
Nelson Mandela allegedly 'unresponsive for days' at Pretoria hospital

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...amily-said-discussing-withdraw-treatment.html

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cussing-withdraw-treatment.html#ixzz2X4qppw9n

It will be decided when we let him go....... :evil:

He will pass away during Grand Cross as a Sun King..meant to be...no matter what we think to manipulate.......its about the thoughts behind it that makes us express who we really are.....wake up!

from that moment on until his 'actual passing' we haven't heard him speak one word to the world. He propably left the building.

Same thing with Sharon, Arafat ( although in a very short timeframe), Bush ( temporarily ) JP II ( 1 day or even manipulation in relation to the announcement of his death, I still think he died on April 1 instead of April 2 )

 

[Dutch]

Ah, so you "don't use mandela's death" except when you try to use it as "just a hit on the patterns" that actually missed the date as have, by your own previous assertions, "many before and many will do".

Dutch, contradicting yourself, making up fantasies that about being ‘on ice’ or effectively dead on the date you want and even coming up with some other pattern (another Venus transition) after the fact. Still don’t alleviate your own assertions indicative of the fact that you can’t do any better than just chance.

The 'exit of Sun King' underlying theme was determined prior to the Grand cross orbital positions, but I noticed correlations in between. Mandela gave expression on both the patterns if you like it or not

 

[The Man]

The 'exit of Sun King' underlying theme was determined prior to the Grand cross orbital positions, but I noticed correlations in between. Mandela gave expression on both the patterns if you like it or not

No Dutch "Mandela gave" you nothing. You just took it as an "expression on both the patterns". It is all just still you, whether you like it or not.

 

[Mister Earl]

As a matter of fact HDDesign puts historic events into perspective in the first place.

No it doesn't. HDD has no framework, no math, no graphs. It's cherry picking and confirmation bias only. You can't use HDD to do work, to predict, to do anything than assure yourself you haven't wasted seven plus years. Also, you should probably re-read the definition of "fact".

The assassination of Mohamad 2 days ago has HDDesign written all over it.

And how could anyone who has paid attention to this over 10+ years discern between an arbitrarily declared "hit" and an actual "hit"? Since you refuse to explain your method, nobody knows. Thus such claims are worthless. But you know this already.

It could help us to understand why events are happening and the underlying HDDesign enables us to understand that nothing just happens by chance.

Prove it. Oh, wait, I'd forgotten. You have no intention whatsoever in proving a single thing. This place is just your random soapbox to spout numerology trussed up with bonus extra nonsense.

We find ourselves 'awake' in a 3D ( or 4 with time, which I prefer) environment and our limited and rigid minds can't see through our reality that in fact everything is connected. We must try to think inter-dimensionally and also verify this rationally. That is, if we truly want evolution of inter-dimensional consciousness.

Had to laugh at the bolded. Dutch, you're no authority on either fact or rationality. Ten years you've been told on what you'd have to do to convince any of us. Ten years you've been told how to test out HDD scientifically. And ten years you have refused. HDD is a complete and abject failure. Numerology is all it is. Nothing more.

But even if we don't want this consciously, it will happen sub-consciously. By sharing it becomes part of inter-dimensional consciousness. That's how we contribute.

All this talk about contribution... why don't you contribute, Dutch? Not this meaningless, effectiveless, pointless word salad you love foisting on us. How about contributing the entirety of your "method", from beginning to end, to include all math, graphs, et cetera? Why not? You just said you want everyone to have "interdimensional conciousness". Why do you refuse to show anyone else the method?

I believe it is because you don't have a method. You postings are great evidence. You pick random events, evade questions, refuse to explain, arbitrarily change numbers to suit you, and ignore all misses. Which is consistent with someone spouting nonsense.

It would help exponetially though, if some of us could wrap their minds arround this concept. That would give a boost to inter-dimensional evolution of consciousness

Sure. Tell us your method, from start to finish, including all mathematical formulas, graphs, and rules. Et cetera.

But we both know you won't. You talk on and on and on about how you want the whole world to like your HDD, but you never get around to telling people what exactly it is, other than vague assurances, fuzzy descriptions, and yet more claims you can't be bothered to back up.

If nothing else, Dutch, I admire your willingness and enthusiasm in wasting such a colossal amount of time. It baffles me, but I find it amusing nonetheless.