Hyper Dimensional Design

[Paulhoff]

No, bluecloud seems to know what he is talking about.

Paul



Yep, no problem here.

 

[Paul]

You can't offend me, because you have obviously no idea what this is about, so no problem.

It's not about offending you, if we were trying to offend you it would be obvious.

What we want is for you to understand that your posts have the appearance of cherry-picked occurrences, which seem to ignore any convention for accurate dating, shoehorned into your 'intuitive' strings of vaguely related events.

So, given that you claim we know nothing, could you enlighten us as to why anything you say regarding 'hyper dimensional design' has any basis in reality?

 

[Dutch]

I need to know what you have read so far, only parts of this thread here?

 

[Paul]

What I would like to know, specifically, is why you believe that the relative positions of large balls of rock and gas have the ability to effect the behaviours and actions of both the animate and inanimate on one of the balls, and that these effects are precise enough to be correlated into recognisable patterns and time lines.

 

[Dutch]

This Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe around October 1-2 needs further analysis, especially in relation to Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21-22.
First take a look again at the events as they are mentioned on the timelines:
Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe April 21/22 (+/- 1 day) at macrolevel:

April 21/22 , 2007 - Hyper dimensional Tetrahedron, 911.522 after the start of the battle of Marathon ( started on Tetrahedron september 12, 490BC ) breaking the Code
Mercury at same position as during flight 522 crash in Marathon
keydate on the 'exit of sun king' timecoded pattern
Tetrahedron connection 9/11, nuclear theme - Syria. read post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=3764&mforum=hddesign#3764
Venus related to Nagasaki triggerevent Hariri killing
Mercury in same position as during 555 awakenings endtrigger 9/11
The US president's men in dire straits
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070423/1/48006.html
Voting begins slowly for Syria's new parliament
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070422/1/47zr0.html
Hamas urges attacks on Israel
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/22/israel.palestinians.ap/index.html
Syria Goes To Polls; Opposition Calls It Farce

Syria is facing international isolation and the government is under pressure to set up an international tribunal to try the killers of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. Also, a U.N. investigation had implicated Syrian officials

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http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007119352
A large, high-ranking Syrian delegation of 40 generals on secret mission to Tehran
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4105
Greek jet makes emergency landing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6583117.stm
nuclear theme
Gates meets Putin on missile sites
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/gates.russia.reut/index.html
Runner dies after London Marathon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6583677.stm
EU agrees Iran nuclear sanctions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6582239.stm
Goro: And finally... [a 'Kamikaze' event]
4/21: Blue Angels jet crashes during air show
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/04/21/blueangels.crash/index.html
exit of 'Sun King':
Former Russian leader Yeltsin dead
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/23/russia.yeltsin.ap/index.html
Syria's Assad seeks to consolidate power
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=71336
Syria jails human rights activist
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6587229.stm
Ruling Syrian party wins election
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6596997.stm

On April 24 ( Asia time,still April 23 in US time and within the HD Tetrahedron timeframe / Dutch.), during a secure phone conversation for more than an hour, Olmert told Bush he had decided to check whether peace talks with Syria could be renewed and the US president apparently gave his go-ahead

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070608/1/493w2.html
The Sun Rips Off a Comet's Tail: ENKI
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/01oct_encke.htm?list158316

Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe around October 1-2 ( +/- 1 day) at macro level:

October 1, 2007 - Hyper Dimensional Octahedron "Cross" date ( macrolevel)
creating a Tetrahedron of 911 days with another Octahedron date at macrolevel: April 2, 2005: The day Pope JP II died at the "Cross"
(The 'flathened' Hyper Dimensional Octahedron leave 4 points creating a cross.)
Mars at same geometrical position as during the killing of Alois Estermann in May 1998.
could be an omen:
Vatican cadet 'commits suicide'
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/03/vatican.suicide.ap/index.html
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same geometrical position as during the Ascension starttrigger date related to the May 4, 1998 Vatican homicides.
Don't know if it means something, but for the time being:
Papal stargazers reach for heaven
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7021358.stm
an expected Syria-related deveopment on HD Octahedron date at macrolevel. Every HD date at macrolevel ( Octahderon-Tetrahedron Cube) has shown Hariri/Syria related developments since the Haririkilling at Cube in February 2005: today at Octahedron, macrolevel:

Assad sets conference conditions
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7021986.stm
CNN headlines: Police Investigate Bizarre Emergency Call From Bishop
http://www.koat.com/news/14239833/detail.html
HD Octahedron date at macrolevel, HD Octahedron location at 'leading HD Octahedron area':
Strong earthquake shakes Sumatra
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/10/02/indonesia.quake/index.html
and:
Indonesia raises alert status on Java volcano
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ghoUUEoyR84nUZRV28PahICtcdUg
breaking news: Israel admits to Syria air strike
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7024287.stm
and this is really profound:
The Sun Rips Off a Comet's Tail: ENKI
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/01oct_encke.htm?list158316

and the nuclear theme in relation to US-Korea, at HD Octahedron:
US approves N Korea nuclear plan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7025116.stm
Russians employed at Iran’s Bushehr nuclear reactor suddenly depart in a body, according to local Arab sources
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4636

This NASA story about comet ENKI loosing its tail by a solar CME is plubished during the Octahedron timeframe but actually took place during the HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21-22.
I already posted some mythical themes in relation to this HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21-22, somehow it was on my mind that the myths from our past were 'in the air' again around this timeframe.
On April 25 I wrote:

Helios Airways Flight 522
Helios Airways Flight 522 (HCY 522 or ZU522) was a Helios Airways Boeing 737-31S flight that crashed on August 14, 2005 at 12:04 EEST into a mountain north of Marathon and Varnavas, Greece. Rescue teams located wreckage near the community of Grammatiko 40 kilometres (25 miles) from Athens. All 121 ( 11 times 11/ Dutch) people on board were killed—the highest death toll for an aviation accident in 2005 until the West Caribbean Airways Flight 708 in Venezuela just two days later.

Flight and crash
The flight, which left Larnaca, Cyprus at 09:07 local time, was en route to Athens, and was scheduled to continue to Prague. After the flight failed to contact air traffic control upon entering Greek air space, two F-16 fighter aircraft from the Hellenic Air Force 111th Combat Wing were scrambled from Nea Anchialos Air Base to establish visual contact. They noted that the aircraft appeared to be on autopilot. In accord with the rules for handling "renegade" aircraft incidents (where the aircraft is not under the pilots' control), one fighter approached to within 300 feet (100 m) of the ill-fated aircraft. The fighter pilot saw that the first officer was slumped motionless on the controls, and that the captain was not in the cockpit. Oxygen masks were seen dangling in the cabin.
==snip===
Timeline
All times EEST (UTC + 3h because Greece and Cyprus were on daylight saving time)
09:00 Scheduled departure time.
09:07 Aircraft takes off from Larnaca airport.
09:11 Pilots report "air conditioning" problem.
09:15 The aircraft's flight data recorder registers an alarm at 14,000 feet (4,300 m).
continued at link http://www.answers.com/topic/helios-airways-flight-522
autopilot.........
Synonym of 'automatic pilot' : Pheidippides
http://foyz.com/thesaurus/word/automatic+pilot/
Marathon History
The idea of the marathon was inspired by the legend of Pheidippides, a professional runner who is believed to have carried the news of the Greek victory over the Persians in the Battle of Marathon in 490 BC. On arriving in Athens, Pheidippides shouted, "Rejoice, we conquer!" and then dropped dead of exhaustion.
http://www.rediff.com/sports/2004/feb/11history.htm
so again I ask, are we about to create the myths of our past?

the 22 year old athlete that died just after the London Marathon wasn't named until today
his name: David Rogers
I deceided to run through an anagram program, first page:
arrived gods

and I posted at the same day:

Marathon victim died from drinking too MUCH water ( emphasis not mine)
A 22-year-old man died after completing his first London Marathon because he drank too much water.
David Rogers collapsed at the end of the race and died yesterday in Charing Cross Hospital.
Today it emerged the fitness instructor from Milton Keynes died from hyponatraemia, or water intoxication.
full article:
link

These events made me think about the Gods of our past, I wrote on the same day:

Enki & Enlil, the Gods of Water and Air :?

The very same day I wrote:

nice timing, Pan/Enki conditioning again
The Gap Moons
April 25, 2007 Full-Res: PIA08926
Saturn's ring-embedded moons, Pan and Daphnis, are captured in a single Cassini spacecraft narrow-angle frame in an alignment they repeat with the regularity of a precise cosmic clock. Pan is closer to Saturn, and thus orbits faster, and Pan overtakes Daphnis every 19 days.
The flying-saucer-like shape of Pan (26 kilometers, or 16 miles across) can easily be discerned here. Daphnis (7 kilometers, or 4.3 miles across) is a mere speck, although its presence is made obvious by the edge waves it creates in the surrounding ring material.
Pan also raises waves in the edges of the Encke Gap

All the time during that Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron timeframe I wasn't aware of the fact that at the same time our Sun ripped off the tail from comet ENKI with a CME, that info became available on HD Octahedron in October, more than 5 months later.
I also wrote that same day in April:

And first, before they left the city, the generals sent off to Sparta a herald, one Pheidippides( means auto pilot, flight 522 crash in Marathon/Dutch), who was by birth an Athenian, and by profession and practice a trained runner (David rogers was a fitness instructor /Dutch). This man, according to the account which he gave to the Athenians on his return, when he was near Mount Parthenium, above Tegea, fell in with the god Pan, who called him by his name, and bade him ask the Athenians "wherefore they neglected him so entirely, when he was kindly disposed towards them, and had often helped them in times past, and would do so again in time to come?" The Athenians, entirely believing in the truth of this report, as soon as their affairs were once more in good order, set up a temple to Pan under the Acropolis, and, in return for the message which I have recorded, established in his honour yearly sacrifices and a torch-race.
http://www.coolrunning.co.nz/articles/2002a007.html
and:
"Phidippides ran back to Athens, but the general couldn't wait that long, so he ordered his troops to advance on the Persians. The Persians were no match for the Athenians and 6,400 Persians were slain. The general then ordered Phidippides back to Marathon to spread the good news. The distance between marathon and Athens was approximately 25 miles. Phidippides made the distance, managed to gasp "Rejoice!" then he collapsed and died…. The first marathon completed."

Mr Rogers, of Westoning near Bedford, and his wife, Sarah, saw their son at Tower Bridge when he was "ecstatic", but at the end of the race learned he had been taken to hospital.
Marathon victim died from drinking too MUCH water
link

and:

In the Battle of Marathon (490 B.C.), it is said that Pan favored the Athenians and so inspired panic in the hearts of their enemies, the Persians.

Pan (mythology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan
Pan
The son of Hermes and a nymph, Pan was half goat half man who lived in the forests of Arcadia surrounded by satyrs and maenads. He was a fertility god, protecting the fields, woods, shepherds and goatherds. He was believed to make he goats pregnant.
Pan had invented the flute when the nymph Syrinx had turned into reeds in order to escape him. Blowing the reeds he created beautiful music, but in spite of that, he did not manage to make any nymph fall in love of him since he was so ugly. He also loved beautiful shepherds.
Christianity took some of Pan's attributes when creating the image of the Devil.
The ancient Greeks believed that when their herds suddenly started running or shuddered with fear without any apparent explanation, it was Pan who scared them. For this we have the word panic - sudden and total fear.
When the Persians attacked Athens in 480 BC the messenger Pheidippedes met Pan in Arcadia. Pan asked him why the Athenians did not worship him and said he would gladly help them against their enemy. So, he appeared on the side of the Athenians at the battle of Marathon, and a cult was founded to his honour in a cave on the northern side of the Acropolis.
http://www.in2greece.com/english/historymyth/mythology/names/pan.htm

The above quotes are all from the 'Breaking the Code' thread .
Now take a close look again at the events of HD Tetrahedron April 21-22 and October 1-2, as they are mentioned on the timelines, and try to see a bigger picture with the given symbolism in mind

 

[Paul]

These events made me think about the Gods of our past

So your ideas now include ancient religion as a basis for accurate results?

try to see a bigger picture with the given symbolism in mind

Well, as a basic example, your symbolism appears to include a deliberately inaccurate description of a mythical figure and a semi-historical figure performing a legendary feat. How does this help us understand anything?

Are you planning on explaining, as you offered, or are you just going to randomly post more unrelated events?

 

[Dutch]

As you might have noticed, I have been monitoring the Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe, I can't do everything at the same time. Why don't you start reading the material? If you do so, than you will notice that I already talked about this 'enki' symbolism back in April, unaware of the actual events taking place in space at the same time.

your question:

What I would like to know, specifically, is why you believe that the relative positions of large balls of rock and gas have the ability to effect the behaviours and actions of both the animate and inanimate on one of the balls, and that these effects are precise enough to be correlated into recognisable patterns and time lines.

I don't talk about effect, I talk about reflect

 

[Paul]

I already talked about this 'enki' symbolism back in April

What is the connection between Enki, Sumerian mythological figure, and comet Encke, named for the man who calculated it's orbit, Johann Franz Encke?

Anyway, I wasn't talking about Enki, I was referring to you use of the myth of Pheidippides' run at the battle of Marathon, and your trying to connect that to a real tragedy with historically invalid references and childish word games.

I don't talk about effect, I talk about reflect

That means nothing.

 

[Dutch]

Have you read about the flight 522 crash in Greece in the material?

I can't put everything into perspective if you don't want to invest your time in reading the material.

 

[Paul]

I can't put everything into perspective if you don't want to invest your time in reading the material.

OK let's look at some of your material:

Synonym of 'automatic pilot' : Pheidippides

Your link does not work and according to this document, you are wrong:

Aristophanes wrote a play called “The Clouds”. In this play, a character names his child Pheidippides, meaning “thrifty horse.” italics mine​

There is no evidence that Pheidippides ran from Marathon to Athens.

Pan is a mythical figure.

The comet is called Encke

There is no connection between Enki and Encke

There is no connection between Pan and Enki

There is no connection between a coronal mass ejection tearing the tail off a comet not named after a Sumerian deity and any of the other events mentioned.

Given that the marathon as a sporting event is named after a purely mythical occurrence, there is no connection between an ancient Athenian, a plane crash and the tragic death of a man in London.

I also ran Mr Rogers through an anagram finder and can post as many pointless words as you, including arrived dogs.

Having astronomical objects named after mythological characters does not grant them extra significance.

 

[Dutch]

you have to look further, its a synonym of 'automatic pilot' .

So are you telling me that you know about the origines of myths?

I really want to know that

 

[Paul]

you have to look further, its a synonym of 'automatic pilot'

How does automatic pilot mean the same thing as thrifty horse? The only way they're synonyms is if you change the meanings of automatic and pilot.

 

[Dutch]

from webster dictionary:

Courier: a person who carries a message

Synonyms: messenger

Related Words:

next to eachother:

Pheidippides, automatic pilot,

http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/Courier

 

[Paul]

Related Words:

next to eachother:

Pheidippides, automatic pilot

Let me just confirm your logic here:

Pheidippides' mythical run was as a messenger, a synonym of which is courier. If you look at the Webster's Online definition of courier you find a list of related words at the bottom of the page; on this list is Pheidippides, and next to his name are the words automatic pilot.

This is basically the justification you are using for linking a comet, moons, an air crash, a marathon, and ancient deities.

 

[Dutch]

you have to read the material, the moment of postings and the context that is given. The way you look at it is indeed meaningless, so let it rest or do your research seriously

 

[Paulhoff]

Outside of your mind Dutch, where are no connections like the ones you think are there.

Paul

 

[Paul]

you have to read the material, the moment of postings and the context that is given.

There is no context which makes your silly automatic pilot word games valid.

The way you look at it is indeed meaningless

The way I look at it is the way you post it; I can't help it if you don't like the results of even a brief examination of your information.

so let it rest or do your research seriously

If you did your research seriously, or responded properly to legitimate questions, I may be able to let it rest.


Now, what is your response to my contention that your Pheidippides/automatic pilot/air crash connection is based on a non-fact.

 

[Dutch]

They popped up, side by side, by synchronicity: instantly and unmistaken. You have to take this as it comes combined with your own efforts to try to understand. This isn't something that can be told, you have to come to understanding yourself

 

[Dutch]

updated september 8, published at HD Octahedron, macrolevel
‘So close to war’
We came so close to World War Three that day
On 6 September, when Israel struck a nuclear facility in Syria
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-maga...me-so-close-to-world-war-three-that-day.thtml
The Hariri Killing, Casus Belli WWIII ?
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about3-hddesign.html
Hyper Dimensional Design
Observing reality in search for indications of hidden underlying multidimensional design
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html

 

[Paul]

They popped up, side by side, by synchronicity: instantly and unmistaken.

Paul Revere also popped up, why ignore him?

Also, in case you hadn't noticed, the order you prize is an accident of alphabetisation and everything on that page shares synchronicity.

E.T.A. are you now claiming that automatic pilot is just two words near someone's name on a web page, and not a synonym for Pheidippides?