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I wrote:
"Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean."
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so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:
Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I
and
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact
I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.
I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.
However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.
If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.
Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.
Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.
Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation. "
and on October 10 I wrote:

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact
connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9
and here it is:
BBC mainstream:
Asteroid collision 'less likely'
8 October 2009
Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm
linked to this article at the same page:
Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.
"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."
Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.
California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.
In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.
from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm
So I have been expecting such a confirmation around October 9, but look what actually has happened on October 8, 2009, I just came to know about today october27:
It has been posted today by member 'Dreemz' on HDDesign forum:
Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences
An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.
On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
Scientists are concerned that it was not spotted by any telescopes, and that had it been larger it could have caused a disaster.
The asteroid, estimated to have been around 10 metres (30ft) across, hit the atmosphere at an estimated 45,000mph. The sudden deceleration caused it to heat up rapidly and explode with the force of 50,000 tons of TNT.
Luckily, due to the height of the explosion – estimated at between 15 and 20 km (nine to 12 miles) above sea level – no damage was caused on the ground.
However, if the object had been slightly larger – 20 to 30 metres (60 to 90ft) across – it could easily have caused extensive damage and loss of life, say researchers.
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An asteroid or comet fragment around 60 meters across is believed to have been behind the Tunguska Event, a powerful explosion that took place over Russia in 1908. The blast has been estimated at equivalent to 10-15 million tons of TNT – enough to destroy a large city.
The White House is to develop a policy on the space object impact threat by October next year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...nesia-raises-fears-about-Earths-defences.html
I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
 
I can’t emphasize enough that people are planning (including NASA) to go back to the moon and perhaps even an asteroid. So much for your claim that…

With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...space-panel-tells-President-Barack-Obama.html


As for your assertion that…

I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!

…it is more commonly referred to as simply confirmation bias and I can’t emphasize that enough either.
 
(most of post snipped) I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
I'm with The Man on this: it's a combination of a lucky coincidence coupled with a hefty dose of confirmation bias.

Dutch, one reason we're quite skeptical of your "research" is you report only the hits. Because of the large amount of material you've accumulated over the years, plus the fact it's poorly organized, you don't take the time to methodically go back over each and every timeline that you've established, compute all the relevant dates for them, then check to see if all the predictions you made for those timelines came about.

You're much more likely to sieze upon a current event in the news, compute a few dates for it based on Phi, Pi, and the motions of the inner planets, then see if any of those dates match anything on already established timelines. That's awfully close to the old cartoon of the archer firing arrows at the side of a barn, then painting targets on the barn where the arrows hit.
 
Not to mention, Blue Mountain, that the purported “communications” are simply of Dutch’s own design so it is only his own “communications” that he seeks to confirm.

From the article I linked

Such a step may not just be a matter of human exploration but also of human survival as scientists believe it is only a matter of time, even if that is measured in millenia, before one such space object will be found to be on a collision course with Earth.

A strike by a medium-sized asteroid could wipe out mankind, so the information that would be garnered by landing on one would be crucial to developing a method of diverting one in the future.


Such events like Tunguska and the asteroid explosion of oct 8th simply reverberate the fact that some things do fall from space. One of the best ways to avoid being “taken out”, as Dutch puts it, by such an event is for us to maintain as much and as diverse as possible a presence in space, as far reaching as possible and perhaps even with some thermonuclear capability. The very same events, even Dutch’s own “correlations” if you want, are equally if not more supportive of exactly the opposite of a “communication” as Dutch has designed for himself.
 
Interesting. Dutch, do you think we are better prepared to take out another Tunguska event because the nuclear bomb was developed or worse off?
 
Interesting. Dutch, do you think we are better prepared to take out another Tunguska event because the nuclear bomb was developed or worse off?

The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened if we didn't developed the nuclear bomb
 
The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened if we didn't developed the nuclear bomb
Must be our constrained 3D view of our reality and our blinkered linear perspective on time that stops us seeing stuff as obvious as that.

I mean, how could we not see that a rock falling out of the sky in 1908 was caused by a technical breakthrough in sustained nuclear fission in the 1940's, it's so likely that there can be no other sensible conclusion.
 
Blue and The Man

You guys are completely disregarding the fact that this 'research' is linking this moon impact to Tunguska.

I for one, was expecting somekind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' around this moon Impact.

it's a combination of a lucky coincidence coupled with a hefty dose of confirmation bias.

Lucky coincidence? these kind of coincidences happen all the time in this HDDesign material.

should make you think
 
Blue and The Man

You guys are completely disregarding the fact that this 'research' is linking this moon impact to Tunguska.

Not at all, you are ignoring the fact that your propertied “links” could equally as well support just about any “communication”, which means they support none.

I for one, was expecting somekind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' around this moon Impact.

The primary problem Dutch, you are simply looking for ‘confirmations’ of your own “communications” and that is called confirmation bias.


Lucky coincidence? these kind of coincidences happen all the time in this HDDesign material.

They happen all the time, period. No dimensional design hype is required nor does the fact that coincidences happen support any such hype. You need to show causal relationships. Claiming…

The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened if we didn't developed the nuclear bomb

…is simply fantasy nonsense. By your reasoning since the Tunguska event did happen we would have had no choice but to develop the nuclear bomb, since without such development , as you claim, “The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened”.

should make you think

It does, it makes us think that you just make something up and then spend the rest of your time purporting coincidences as some form of confirmation.
 
... By your reasoning since the Tunguska event did happen we would have had no choice but to develop the nuclear bomb, since without such development , as you claim, “The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened”.


repeated for emphasis.
 
…is simply fantasy nonsense. By your reasoning since the Tunguska event did happen we would have had no choice but to develop the nuclear bomb, since without such development , as you claim, “The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened”.

get rid of you rigid 3D perspective of time, this is inter dimensional communication
 
get rid of you rigid 3D perspective of time, this is inter dimensional communication

The claim that…

The Tunguska event wouldn't have happened if we didn't developed the nuclear bomb

…was yours. Thus so too is that “perspective” and your purported “communication”. Get rid of your dimensional design hype fantasies.
 
and dismiss the obvious intelligent correlations?

Don't you see by now that I'm always 'helped' by a 'coincidence' to occur in order to confirm the given hiden underlying Design?

wake up
 
and dismiss the obvious intelligent correlations?

What “obvious intelligent correlations”? You mean the ones obviously constructed by you?

Don't you see by now that I'm always 'helped' by a 'coincidence' to occur in order to confirm the given hiden underlying Design?

Your ‘coincidences’ support just about any claim of ‘communication’ anyone wants to assert equally well, thus they do not help you or any other such claims. You just help yourself to a heaping dose of confirmation bias “in order to confirm the given hidden underlying Design” that is, well, simply accepted as a given by you since it is given by you.



I’m not the one dreaming.
 
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Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)
During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.
While the indications are overwhelming
What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.
This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?
Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.
And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.
The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.
So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.

I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.
Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.
Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.
There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.
We go back to May 29, 2008.
The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:
NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/epoxi_transit.html
"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."

With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:
I wrote on January 2 this year:
"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:
3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)
Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005
The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008
July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!
Wake Up!
So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.
The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."
and followed by this:
"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:
Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005
Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.
next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.
As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar
Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?
Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?
fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:
Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi
is the same as:
Pi * difference between:
Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit
and
Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby
or in numbers:
July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded
July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded
May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded
The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days
1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi
or
1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!
This is so beautiful and fundamental."
This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.
This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.
The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:
The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358


“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist
At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.
But the communication goes on
October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon
On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter
This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.
After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':
3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:
Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact
As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!
With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!
I wrote:
"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.
The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.
unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!
LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site
Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/LRO_Sees_Apollo_14_Rocket_Booster_Impact_Site_999.html
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact
connected by Phi point Golden Mean
unbelievable
fundamental truth
The message of this 'communication' should be clear
Tunguska is a warning
Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space
we must not mess with nuclear power
With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:
Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences
An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.
On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html
For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
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