Hydrogen rich water

So if water rich in hydrogen ions is good for you and water with extra oxygen in it is good for you and if baking soda cures cancer, what happens if I consume a half a cup or so of each, one right after the other?

I would feel wonderful, right?
 
Slowvehicle said:
Surely you mean, "hydrohydoxic acid", no?
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No, I have a filter for that. I read somewhere also that dihydrogen monoxide is very dangerous, so I'm thinking of sending away for a device that re-orders its molecules, using a secret patented quantum entanglement algorithm that is patented and endorsed by a panel of famous scientists.
 
Based on the article in Nature, there's probably a there there. My problem with it is when "an effect" is promoted so far beyond the actual testing. The paper talks about what is essentially a topical application, but it sounds like what is being promoted is an oral, full-body effect, and this I find hard to swallow (yuck, yuck).

Here's one reason why:
Pure hydrogen gas, H2, is almost purely water insoluble, and like all other gases, its solubility decreases as the temperature of the water increases. At zero degrees Celsius, the solubility of hydrogen is 0.0019 grams per kilogram of water, which drops to below 0.0012 g/kg at 60 degrees.

So how much am I supposed to drink?

Frankly, I'd guess you could absorb a lot more hydrogen if you simply breathed a gas mixture containing it for a few minutes.
 
bruto said:
No, I have a filter for that. I read somewhere also that dihydrogen monoxide is very dangerous, so I'm thinking of sending away for a device that re-orders its molecules, using a secret patented quantum entanglement algorithm that is patented and endorsed by a panel of famous scientists.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but your device will simply produce DHMO.

Every single serial murderer ever drank DHMO...
 
gabeygoat said:
Genuine curiosity, how does that work?
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If I remember correctly, they weren't sure. The proposed mechanism was indeed (again, if I'm remembering correctly) that it's antioxidant properties combated the excess oxidizing agents and mechanisms caused by radiation exposure. It helped mostly with soreness of joints, being only a quality of life kind of finding, and didn't have an effect on the radiation treatments success rates.


Now let's see if I can find that paper and how close I was. :p

EDIT: Well that was easy to find. Smallish study, looks like I was basically correct. Seems to have helped with inflammation related issues. Hydroperoxide levels were lowered by consumption of the water, so that mechanism looks very plausible within the bounds of information the study provides.
 
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bruto said:
Typical pseudoskeptic, with no proof at all and probably secretly on the payroll of big water.
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Proof, you say?

I challenge you to find a single person on Death Row who does not imbibe DHMO at least once a day, either "street" ("pure") or "sold" (in solution).

I challenge you to show me a single televangelist who has not been bathing, even swimming in the stuff...
 
tyr_13 said:
If I remember correctly, they weren't sure. The proposed mechanism was indeed (again, if I'm remembering correctly) that it's antioxidant properties combated the excess oxidizing agents and mechanisms caused by radiation exposure. It helped mostly with soreness of joints, being only a quality of life kind of finding, and didn't have an effect on the radiation treatments success rates.


Now let's see if I can find that paper and how close I was. :p

EDIT: Well that was easy to find. Smallish study, looks like I was basically correct. Seems to have helped with inflammation related issues. Hydroperoxide levels were lowered by consumption of the water, so that mechanism looks very plausible within the bounds of information the study provides.
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So it's just an anti-oxidant?

That seems like an inefficient approach. Yeah, H2 is oxidizable, but not easily so (unless you add a spark, of course)

Why not use something that is more easily oxidized and beneficial, like Vitamin C? Or better, just eat some blueberries or drink some grape juice. They will have the same effect.
 
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