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Hydrogen rich water

rustypouch

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An acquaintance of mine has recently been talking about the health benefits of hydrogen rich water, how it supposedly slows the aging process.

Products like this, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Hydrogen-Rich-Water-Machine-Cup/dp/B01HLAYXHC

It gives you hydrogen-rich water in just 3 minutes. Free radicals in our bodies have strong oxidizing capabilities, attacking and damaging cells in our organs to cause and accelerate various diseases and aging. Antioxidants prevent the oxidation of cells through chemical combination with free radicals. Hydrogen rich water is known as the best anti-oxidant, and is hundreds of times more effective than anti-oxidants like Vitamin C.
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Is there anything to this, or just woo?
 
rustypouch said:
An acquaintance of mine has recently been talking about the health benefits of hydrogen rich water, how it supposedly slows the aging process.

Products like this, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Hydrogen-Rich-Water-Machine-Cup/dp/B01HLAYXHC


Is there anything to this, or just woo?
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Video. LOL!

Hydrogen being the lightest of the elements will very rapidly leave the container.
Since the mention electrolysis, it splits the water into hydrogen and oxygen,
both of which bubble up. Given the heaviness of oxygen, it likely stays in the
water longer, so you're really getting oxygenated water.

P. S. I guess the general rule in advertising is you can say anything about
a product as long as nobody cares.
 
Woo. There's never been any benefit shown to taking antioxidants above what is in a normal healthy diet.
 
It's just the same old 'miracle anti-oxidant'. Oxidation isn't always bad, and is a needed chemical reaction for some life functions.

Moreover, Vitamin C is an oxidizer, not an anti-oxidant. Hydrogen readily oxidizes, which is one way it forms water, which does make it actually at least an anti-oxidant when consumed. This product is separating out hydrogen gas by breaking it free from oxygen in water using an electric charge.

The only medical use I'm aware of for this is for radiation cancer treatments, possibly reducing some of the discomforting side effects in one study some years ago. Unless you've been exposed to excess radiation levels lately, or you want an inefficient means of producing and explosive gas, this probably isn't for you.
 
But can you blow up balloons with the hydrogen as it bubbles out of the water? Re-stage the Hindenburg.
 
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rustypouch said:
An acquaintance of mine has recently been talking about the health benefits of hydrogen rich water, how it supposedly slows the aging process...

Is there anything to this, or just woo?
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There was a 2-page thread a few years ago which looks to have addressed this topic in relation to a different product (redox water systems): "Is 'activated hydrogen water' real or fake?" I think the consensus was fake.
 
I don't know about hydrogen-rich water, but I distinctly remember a prominently placed military officer stating that drinking heavy water would reverse the aging process. Oh wait...that was Colonel Hogan conning Colonel Klink on an episode of "Hogan's Heroes". Never mind. :D
(A truck carrying a drum of heavy water was temporarily stored in the camp on its way to a Nazi research facility.)
 
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If it is high in hydrogen, couldn't the water be thought of as low in oxygen? "Oxygen-starved water" doesn't have quite the same ring to it though, does it.
 
I haven't read all the links, fearing to instantly lose IQ points. But isn't water with extra hydrogen called acid? :D
 
ddt said:
I haven't read all the links, fearing to instantly lose IQ points. But isn't water with extra hydrogen called acid? :D
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Extra hydrogen ions (H+), yes.

Extra dissolved hydrogen gas molecules (H2), such as you'd obtain as one product of electrolysis of water, no.

Extra neutral hydrogen monomers (H) don't normally or easily occur, so call that "no" also.
 
Myriad said:
Extra hydrogen ions (H+), yes.

Extra dissolved hydrogen gas molecules (H2), such as you'd obtain as one product of electrolysis of water, no.

Extra neutral hydrogen monomers (H) don't normally or easily occur, so call that "no" also.
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Yeah, yeah, that's all well and good, but what people really want to know is............what about the hydrinos?? :D
 
ddt said:
I haven't read all the links, fearing to instantly lose IQ points. But isn't water with extra hydrogen called acid? :D
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Not extra hydrogen gas. I used hydrogen gas in the Navy by adding it to reactor coolant to scavenge excessive oxygen; did not affect pH as it was a gas (H2) and did not form hydronium (H3O)

Ranb
 
Myriad said:
Extra hydrogen ions (H+), yes.

Extra dissolved hydrogen gas molecules (H2), such as you'd obtain as one product of electrolysis of water, no.

Extra neutral hydrogen monomers (H) don't normally or easily occur, so call that "no" also.
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All of which would very readily combine with just-about-anything else in the water. So the water would have to be extremely pure in the first place. Then as soon as you put it in your mouth there will be a wide array of things for the hydrogen to react with. I doubt if any free hydrogen would make it to your stomach in the first place.
Frankly though I am not sure I would want a lot of free hydrogen in my esophagus or stomach, much less my blood stream.
 
Actually, I'd guess the only way to really make hydrogen rich water is to follow ddt's method by acidifying. The solubility of hydrogen gas in water is appallingly low (0.0008 moles/liter), so there is a good chance all water is pretty much saturated with it to start with. If not, one or two seconds of electrolysis will do it.
But since H2 gas is less reactive than people think, it won't actually DO much.

If you want to drink something containing anti oxidants with lots of hydrogen, a glass of fruit juice would hit both things. It has acid AND vitamin C, and is likely cheaper and better tasting :)
 
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