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Hustler woo

I bet Hustler woos forgot to check out the fact fires at the WTC complex did make steel weak and floors failed as in WTC5

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Should I load the famous Dr Jones thermite cut that proves him a woo too. ???

This is for the beer guy so we are ahead of fire does not make steel fail!!!

When he gets to it.
 
This is for the beer guy so we are ahead of fire does not make steel fail!!!

When he gets to it.

Again, so smug. How much of your 2 cases have you had?

Please, people; what is a "woo!" I gots to know! I'm not privvy (privyy? priivy? None of those look right) to your insider smart-person jargon and lingo. I'm trying to learn! Throw me a bone here! I won't leave until somebody tells me what a "woo" is! Then I'll be gone. <poof>
 
That wont happen. They are proved to be wrong. Many times. Daily, For five years now. Here we go again start the music.

This is what gets me, and a valid question. If you are right, then why even acknowledge the CTers (I mean the alternate CTers)? Why even bother with this topic? Let them all implode and collapse. Let them JAQ off (whatever that means, more insider jargon; anybody? little help?) and make asses of themselves, like I guess I am because I've read 50-60 books on intel and rogue networks, and then fade away into Hustler-land?

You guys feed their fire. You don't really think they're gonna tear down the government, do you? Let them have their hobby! Like you have yours!
 
woo is like goo or poo

who knows woo? but I am acting like a woo, who else could do as well.

Who knows?

But if I was CT inclined I would review Gravy's post and go from there. Read all of them and see what you think.

Just a hint. Ignore me for a while; and review Gravy's post;

This will be the best advise you will get with your present tone.

Please read Gravy's post and try again.

Good luck and welcome

Plus read up on all this junk here for a few days before stepping off the cliff!

Good luck... (do read Gravy's posts, it will be ok)
 
Most of these guys try to present facts on why the CT world is telling lies.

Simple.

Why do CT guys make up stuff? Thermite, beam weapons, and more.

They do it because some people fall for the CT world by accident. These guys are trying to help with facts.

You are not asking questions or anything. You post lie after lie. Lies because they are not based on facts. You use hearsay and talk to push lies.

I have problems with CT world of lies. I see it is mainly a problem of education for most. Young CTers think the "expert" CT guys have something. Young CTers believe Alex Jones has something. Same old junk CT stuff is coming from you.

I have yet to see a CT guy who has original work. Have you? Facts would be unheard of.
 
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Your world is a mess. I mean the big blue globe thingie. While you all worry about whether it was a thud or a bomb, a 45 degree angle or a 47 degree angle, some of us are waking up and have a good idea of what's going on in the governments of the world. Or at least have a glimpse of it.

The world isn't black and white. Science is, but discourse is not. And there are so many grey areas that science will never account for. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

I hope you all find some of those greay areas in your search for the truth. (If you still seek it).

You know, I kinda sorta agree with you here, but perhaps not entirely in the way that you intended.

I noticed recently on the LC forum that somene posted regarding the calamity we may be facing with regard to global climate change. Of course they posted a woowoo version full of claims that 4.5 Billion people would die as a result and that this was all part of the NWO evil plan to reduce world population. Even the 'chemtrails' issue has been touched on over there from a woowoo who believes that the trails might be intentional global dimming (which is kinda ironic since the global dimming theory has it that particulate polution in the atmosphere is actually reducing the effects of GH gas emissions and by cleaning up polution such as contrails (chemtrails) from aircraft the negative effects of GH gasses will become amplified) and that this is all just a NWO plot.

But the thing which struck me was that this was an area of outrage the woowoo's could actually do some good with, and that if they were to devote more time to supporting the demands for action to reduce carbon emissions then they would be acheiving somethig positive rather than just JAQing off over 9/11.
 
Most of these guys try to present facts on why the CT world is telling lies.

Simple.

Why do CT guys make up stuff? Thermite, beam weapons, and more.

They do it because some people fall for the CT world by accident. These guys are trying to help with facts.

You are not asking questions or anything. You post lie after lie. Lies because they are not based on facts. You use hearsay and talk to push lies.

I have problems with CT world of lies. I see it is mainly a problem of education for most. Young CTers think the "expert" CT guys have something. Young CTers believe Alex Jones has something. Same old junk CT stuff is coming from you.

I have yet to see a CT guy who has original work. Have you? Facts would be unheard of.

I assume this was for me? Grrrrrrr!!! You say "don't post, go read Gravy" (which I have attempted and will read, seriously, when I can stop defending myself). Then you post again! And incite a response! You go read all my posts. Don't get angry and reply, just read. It's a discipline we probably could both dial in better. Don't you think?

I thought I came in here with no tone. Maybe my skepticism about this group's skepticism came through. BTW, I'm still skeptical about your skepticism here, in general. Here's why.

I would have (still might) reply to the post where it was brought up. Maybe I'll spare you all. But I was told (lectured?) that the NIST, FEMA, and Warren Commission reports are the status quo. What did all of you use as your basis for argument before those reports came out?

Also, I have read many debunks of all three of those reports. And debunks of the debunks, and on and on. I am aware of the (alleged) inconsistencies and flaws in them, as are all of you. You have to admit, they aren't perfect. Right? If you tell me they are perfect, I'm out of here, without even finding out what "woo" means.

And as for "original work"; where is yours? Just links to government sites and alternative blogger/journalists and CNN/FOX/network stuff! Just like Alex Jones. And the other side. Or do you have something? Your own investigation?

Even Huffschmid and Grossman and Meyssan and Thorne and Jones and Holmgren have done work. I haven't. Have you?
 
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You know, I kinda sorta agree with you here, but perhaps not entirely in the way that you intended.

I noticed recently on the LC forum that somene posted regarding the calamity we may be facing with regard to global climate change. Of course they posted a woowoo version full of claims that 4.5 Billion people would die as a result and that this was all part of the NWO evil plan to reduce world population. Even the 'chemtrails' issue has been touched on over there from a woowoo who believes that the trails might be intentional global dimming (which is kinda ironic since the global dimming theory has it that particulate polution in the atmosphere is actually reducing the effects of GH gas emissions and by cleaning up polution such as contrails (chemtrails) from aircraft the negative effects of GH gasses will become amplified) and that this is all just a NWO plot.

But the thing which struck me was that this was an area of outrage the woowoo's could actually do some good with, and that if they were to devote more time to supporting the demands for action to reduce carbon emissions then they would be acheiving somethig positive rather than just JAQing off over 9/11.

OK, wait; I wasn't referring to environmental stuff. They talk about that crap at the LC blog? Yikes.

No, when I said "the world's a mess" or whatever (are we allowed to say "whatever?") I meant the corrupt, criminal rogue governments of the world.

What's woo-woo and JAQ? Please?
 
OK, wait; I wasn't referring to environmental stuff. They talk about that crap at the LC blog? Yikes.

No, when I said "the world's a mess" or whatever (are we allowed to say "whatever?") I meant the corrupt, criminal rogue governments of the world.


Yes I know that.

But the point is that there is plenty going on in the world that the armchair revolutionaries can get their teeth into, but 9/11 CT is a waste of time because it has no good theories, even less good evidence and no one really cares anymore outside of a few online forum and a handful of CTers who are making a buck off the gullible.

If people want to change the world they are living in they should be looking for other issues, but of course those other issues aren't nearly as exciting as endless discussions about 9/11 and other issues may actually require some of these CTers to get off their arses and actually do something.

Perish the thought.
 
woowoo is used to describe people who go "woooo!" when they see something their limited imaginations cannot comprehend.

JAQ = Just Asking Questions
 
Gravy! What is "woo?"
Short for woo-woo, meaning paranormal, or faith-based rather than evidence-based.

You guys would do your group justice by allowing somebody to process, before kicking and biting and piling on.
You've been given the advice to discuss one issue at a time. It's good advice.

OK, thanks. And yes, I want the pictures.

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I'm all over the place because the question-attack-bombs lobbed at me were all over the place! Don't blame me.
IMO you're all over the place because that's how the CT mind works. You don't have evidence to back your claims, so you need to change subjects...FAST!
 
OK, wait; I wasn't referring to environmental stuff. They talk about that crap at the LC blog? Yikes.

No, when I said "the world's a mess" or whatever (are we allowed to say "whatever?") I meant the corrupt, criminal rogue governments of the world.

What's woo-woo and JAQ? Please?

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I assume this was for me? Grrrrrrr!!! You say "don't post, go read Gravy" (which I have attempted and will read, seriously, when I can stop defending myself). Then you post again! And incite a response! You go read all my posts. Don't get angry and reply, just read. It's a discipline we probably could both dial in better. Don't you think?

I thought I came in here with no tone. Maybe my skepticism about this group's skepticism came through. BTW, I'm still skeptical about your skepticism here, in general. Here's why.

I would have (still might) reply to the post where it was brought up. Maybe I'll spare you all. But I was told (lectured?) that the NIST, FEMA, and Warren Commission reports are the status quo. What did all of you use as your basis for argument before those reports came out?

Also, I have read many debunks of all three of those reports. And debunks of the debunks, and on and on. I am aware of the (alleged) inconsistencies and flaws in them, as are all of you. You have to admit, they aren't perfect. Right? If you tell me they are perfect, I'm out of here, without even finding out what "woo" means.

And as for "original work"; where is yours? Just links to government sites and alternative blogger/journalists adn CNN/FOX/CBS/NBC/ABC stuff! Just like Alex Jones. And the other side.

Hijackers took 4 aircraft; 3 made their targets; the fourth plane as taken back by Americans working together with facts based on 9/11; they did in minutes and acted; you have take 5 years to mess up and make up CT of 9/11.

Planes impacted the WTC towers, fire weakened steel, building fell releasing the energy in each tower due to gravity of 248 TONS of TNT each. This cause the damage seen at the WTC complex.

The Pentagon was stuck by flight 77! The Pentagon burned.

93 heroes plane crashed and buried itself in the ground like so many of my fellow pilots in the Air Force deep in the ground at high speed.

Plane impacts were like 1300 to 2400 pound of TNT for each impact. That is why it looked like the planes were destroyed! That is why the tons of plane entered the WTC and Pentagon and the ground.

There is no CT by our government. You have no facts.

I do not need the NIST, FEMA, or another report. I was paying attention to world events and knew UBL did it when I saw the planes on 9/11; the government figured it out too. Darn, I could have had a Pulitzer Prize if everyone including Dan Rather had not know UBL was trying to kill us for the last 26 years.

It helps that I am BSEE, MSEE, a Air Force Pilot on duty on 9/11. I know that NORAD did not stand down. I know how easy it is to fly a 757/767, I am a FAA rated Airline Transport Pilot. I have help, by brother is an engineer like me, he is an ME. We agree on the WTC and other damage that day; we become our own peer review.

I know countless pilots who agree the terrorist were over qualified to fly the planes as seen on 9/11; it was rookie work.

I can calculate the energy in fuel that set the fires in the WTC, I can calculate the energy in the WTC due to gravity. I can calculate to the pound, the energy of each impact and you can see why it looked like a 2000 pound bomb instead of an aircraft impact!

I know the dumb things about radar, transponders and other junk the CT world lies about.

I know cell phones can work in flight. I cheated I used them in flight before 9/11. I also can read, it helps to read before selling your soul to liars who do not care about anything but themselves and money like the LC gang.

Go back to school, so far you have mentioned the thermite junk without saying the thermite word.

You debunk yourself when you start with diagonal cut beams.

I have found no useful information for CT ideas on 9/11. You have made an error believing lies.
 
Yes I know that.

But the point is that there is plenty going on in the world that the armchair revolutionaries can get their teeth into, but 9/11 CT is a waste of time because it has no good theories, even less good evidence and no one really cares anymore outside of a few online forum and a handful of CTers who are making a buck off the gullible.

If people want to change the world they are living in they should be looking for other issues, but of course those other issues aren't nearly as exciting as endless discussions about 9/11 and other issues may actually require some of these CTers to get off their arses and actually do something.

Perish the thought.

OK, nice, gotcha on that. (I mean, gotcha, not I gotcha). That's a good thought, but I doubt this debate is going away any time soon. While the world burns.

Again, just let them (us, I still think there's more to the story than meets the eye on 9/11) implode and collapse. If there's nothing to see, then move along, and let us waste our time and lives on nothing.

Does that make sense?
 
my wifes calling me to bed so I will address what I recall as the one of the first questions you asked
why bin laden?

Well I admit he denied it at first until he could get his butt out of Afghanistan to safety. Then he admitted in on tape. many times if i recall. he also has a proven track record for crimes that DO appear under his most wanted FBI poster. Now if YOU were bin laden. And you did not do it. But nonetheless would relish in Bush the great Satan being exposed as the evil he is. Wouldn't you deny it and point your finger at Bush and his regime doing an inside job? Would that not serve the jihad better? or are they just interested in sending each of themselves one at a time to ...well where ever it is they go.. to the land of fifty six virgin ugly Betty's or whatever.

As far as us not taken Prison Planet seriously. well the same could be said for them old supermarket tabloids like Midnight or the Enquirer. You will not see articles in those tabloids in the mainstream media. Not because of a media conspiracy. Just because the stuff in those tabloids is fabrication for a niche market. Prison Planet writes for its small niche market. Those who feel paranoid or feel that life has treated them unfairly and they feel powerless. It appeals to those who clink beer mugs together and lament that the "Man" is keeping them down. It gives readers the illusion of intelligence because only they can figure out the complex weavings of a vast conspiracy only seen by them.

well Ive been cut short ill continue tomorrow Ive been given my warning.
 
OK, nice, gotcha on that. (I mean, gotcha, not I gotcha). That's a good thought, but I doubt this debate is going away any time soon. While the world burns.

Again, just let them (us, I still think there's more to the story than meets the eye on 9/11) implode and collapse. If there's nothing to see, then move along, and let us waste our time and lives on nothing.

Does that make sense?

The Anthrax-Thread is here:

Anthrax False Flag Conspiracy
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72195

BTW: Happy Birthday and welcome on Board, SCG. :)
 
You're absolutely unreal. I asked a couple questions! See, you smug folks are not in the least bit interested in educating or discussing. It's all paranoia and insult. Just like the other side! (Actually, you are worse).

SERIOUSLY, drop the paranoia. I'm not some agent in your war with 911blogger (as I just posted). If that's what this is all about, I'll accept your apologies, if anybody cares to make one. Or are you always this way?

I haven't even read Reynolds and Woods theory. But I will soon. Have any of you really read it?

If you think that the posters here are dismissive, and smug that they know the answers you're going to "just ask" before you "just ask" them, you're right.

There's a reason for that.
It can be summed up pretty well by modifying a scene from "Young Frankenstein":

First Elder: Oh tosh. This man is different, I tell you. You can see that after he talks with you for five minutes. Yes.

Villager: He's a Troofer, and they're all the same. It's in their blood, they can't help it. All those dimbulbs, they're all alike. They say they want the truth, but what they really want to do is stroke their egos.

Second Elder: That's enough now. I will not have this meeting become a free-for-all. These are very serious charges you're making. All the more painful to us, your elders, because we still have nightmares from five times before.
You are not the first person, or the second person, or even the fifth to come to this forum "just asking questions". It's a well-trod path. Surely you must know that, since you were "warned". Most of us (I certainly can't speak for everyone, but I will anyway) don't find insinuations phrased as questions interesting, because we've seen them before, we did the research, and we think they're bogus. They're bogus as insinuations, they're bogus as questions. We've looked at the questions, compared answers, and voted for reality. We did the math. We've looked up the actual values instead of arguing from incredulity, or taking the word of what "some dude told me".

So when you come in here, following the same script, people will poke fun at you. Trying to slide in, "just asking questions", trying to accuse without accusing, simply won't work. We're immune. We've got antibodies against "faster than free fall", and "no plane into the pentagon", "controlled demolition of WTC1, 2 and 7", "pull it", "insurance scam", "the towers weren't making money", "Flight 93 was shot down", "the fat-faced Osama", "they didn't know how to fly", "Norad stood down", "a Bush was in charge of security", "so and so heard explosions","suspicious airline stock trading", all that stuff. Really. As a group, we've looked at it, and the closer you look at it, the less there is there.
You're not going to intrigue anyone. No one's going to say, "Gee, I hadn't thought of that", because either we've thought of it, or it's been suggested, and we looked at it, and there's no evidence to support it.
Oh, and welcome to the well-trod path -- er, the forum.
 
Short for woo-woo, meaning paranormal, or faith-based rather than evidence-based.

IMO you're all over the place because that's how the CT mind works. You don't have evidence to back your claims, so you need to change subjects...FAST!

OK, thanks for the pics. And the woowoo expplanation.

Read the thread back; I'm all over the place because the attacks here are all over the place. Again, you guys might change a woo-woo if you welcome them without the insults. Same discussion goes on at every board I've seen. On both sides of the debate.

I appreciate your advice, you have a level head. But be careful telling me how my mind works. I have read a lot, as have you, I'm sure. Nobody just shakes off years of "knowledge" in a night, because somebody tells them every book they've read must be wrong, because all is the way the government says it is.
 
OK, nice, gotcha on that. (I mean, gotcha, not I gotcha). That's a good thought, but I doubt this debate is going away any time soon. While the world burns.

Again, just let them (us, I still think there's more to the story than meets the eye on 9/11) implode and collapse. If there's nothing to see, then move along, and let us waste our time and lives on nothing.

Does that make sense?


Well until the CTers come up with some genuine and irrefuteable evidence - YES

All we get here is the occasional new CTer with his/her tail in the air thinking they have the goods on the conspiracy only to find it's the same old nonsense regurgitated.

The 'truth' movement is stagnating. Online polls don't mean anything and articles in a hardcore porn magazine mean even less.

You mentioned the media in one of your earlier posts and, of course, you see the lack of media coverage as either being because they are controlled by the NWO or they are covering their arses because they don't want to be seen as having been derelict in their duty to investigate and report.

The latter is actually more absurd than the former.

There are a huge number of news media corporations around the world who would LOVE to find the scoop which would implicate the US government in 9/11, but they can't.

Sure, anonymous internet posters and video makers can say and do whatever they want because they are small fish seeking attention in a large pond. To respond to their claims is to give them the oxygen of publicity and so those who the CTers implicate in the 9/11 CT tend to ignore the CTers. But once they stick their heads above the parapet (a position the worlds media already holds) then they become targets for legal action and investigation, and then their whole hypothesis is open to question.

So the medias reluctance to give airtime to the claims of the CTers is understandable and is based on the FACT that the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 do not stand up to proper scrutiny.

It's nothing sinister, it's just proper journalism.
 

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