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Hunter Biden Gun Trial

ponderingturtle said:
Up next every gun owner who visits a weed dispensary is going to get locked up.
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One of the things I was looking forward to when I retired from my job at a federal shipyard was the opportunity to try marijuana. But that would make me run afoul of gun control laws.

Call me queer, but I prefer my guns to drugs. :)

Do legal weed dispensaries keep records of their customers, or do they just verify that they are 21 and older?
 
ponderingturtle said:
Up next every gun owner who visits a weed dispensary is going to get locked up.
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It won't help Hunter, but the feds do need to change the law with regard to pot. The black market in weed still exists because quite a few gun owners are aware of the risk.
 
Ranb said:
Which 2nd Amendment people on this forum have expressed an interest in protecting the rights of drug addicts to own firearms and violate the law when buying them?

I am one of those who wants to see people like Biden pay for their crimes.

I recall discussing drugs and guns with people when state level marijuana laws were being relaxed some years ago. Some of my facebook friends were warning others that form 4473 was a trap waiting to ensnare them. I responded that they needed to choose between their civil rights or drugs. It was not a popular stance.
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idk what any 2a guys are saying about it on any forum, it’s why i’m asking. i figured some of you guys might have a problem with denying someone their 2nd amendment right without due process, which is kind of what the form does.

but yeah seems not. which is fine, to me it makes sense as not a 2a guy. just unexpected to a certain extent. for different reasons it’s entirely expected though.
 
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trump isn't buying it and neither are the magamutts.
“This trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the Biden Crime Family, which has raked in tens of millions of dollars from China, Russia and Ukraine,” the Trump campaign said a statement to CNN on Tuesday. “Crooked Joe Biden’s reign over the Biden Family Criminal Empire is all coming to an end on November 5th, and never again will a Biden sell government access for personal profit.” Hahoo News news link
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That's deplorable! ;)
 
dirtywick said:
idk what any 2a guys are saying about it on any forum, it’s why i’m asking. i figured some of you guys might have a problem with denying someone their 2nd amendment right without due process, which is kind of what the form does.

but yeah seems not. which is fine, to me it makes sense as not a 2a guy. just unexpected to a certain extent. for different reasons it’s entirely expected though.
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I think so, the problem is that he pretty clearly broke the law but it's a pretty dumb law that probably does violate the 6th amendment.
 
dirtywick said:
idk what any 2a guys are saying about it on any forum, it’s why i’m asking. i figured some of you guys might have a problem with denying someone their 2nd amendment right without due process, which is kind of what the form does.

but yeah seems not. which is fine, to me it makes sense as not a 2a guy. just unexpected to a certain extent. for different reasons it’s entirely expected though.
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Biden lied on an official form; essentially a written confession to a crime.

He was indicted, had a trial and was convicted. How does the form deny due process?
 
Ranb said:
Biden lied on an official form; essentially a written confession to a crime.

He was indicted, had a trial and was convicted. How does the form deny due process?
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I think the argument is that the form itself imposes an unconstitutional control/limitation on someone's 2A rights to own a firearm. Thus the form itself is invalid to begin with, even if Hunter was coked to the eyeballs and brandishing a Glock while he signed it. Thus there is no crime.

Or something.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I think the argument is that the form itself imposes an unconstitutional control/limitation on someone's 2A rights to own a firearm. Thus the form itself is invalid to begin with, even if Hunter was coked to the eyeballs and brandishing a Glock while he signed it. Thus there is no crime.
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As far as I know, Biden's lawyers did not use that defense.
 
Ranb said:
Biden lied on an official form; essentially a written confession to a crime.

He was indicted, had a trial and was convicted. How does the form deny due process?
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i mean, it’s not really my argument. just one that I’ve read. but so it goes in essence a form isn’t due process-y enough to take away a constitutional right.

since i’m having trouble coming up with other civil rights that can be taken via form without some kind of criminal conviction they may have a point. one that i thought they would have argued, but haven’t really seen.

but again, i don’t agree. i think they should take guns away for much less. just kind of surprising is all.
 
marting said:
Trump vows to save Hunter.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...rst-son-s-second-amendment-rights/ar-BB1o2suX

“His father, one of our worst presidents, is more concerned with making the gun control people happy, so he won’t have the courage to step in here and help Hunter. Don’t worry, Joe – I will Save your son after I get elected (for the third time)!”
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Not Trump's words, but a statement. That means someone else wrote it, and Donny probably has no idea what's going on with this case.

Also, from the same report:
“Hunter might deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it,” Representative Thomas Massie (R., Ky.) said. “There are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country, and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current laws.”
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The gun rights people ARE turning this into a constitutional thing. Anyone know what the Venn diagram for Florida's gun owners versus Florida's weed users looks like? A perfect circle?
 
President Biden has said he won't pardon his son.

I have no reason not to believe that. But, there are things a President can do short of a pardon.

He has the power to commute a sentence. When all things are said and done and it's time for Hunter to report to a prison (if that ever happens) Biden has the power to commute the sentence and keep his pledge not to pardon.

Keep in mind that a commutation does not wipe out the conviction.
 
I would be very disappointed in Biden if he didn't pardon Hunter right after the election, should the verdict be upheld.
 
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