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Ms. Moir,

You mentioned in post #1724 that there are "secret occult science practices being applied by NASA."

Without discussing anything else about your beliefs, please briefly answer these questions. If you have website references other than the ones you have already posted, your including them would be much appreciated.

1. What are these practices?

2. Against whom or against what are they being applied?

3. In what way are they occult, that is, supernatural or not known to normal everyday scientists, including nuclear physicists and astrophysicists.*

4. How did you find out about this secret knowledge and about how NASA's involvment?

Thank you.

xterra


*Occult" just means "hidden," but in normal English usage has come to mean supernatural or paranormal.)
 
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wendy moir said:
I do not live in America. I am a housewife who has experienced an atmospheric attack. I am demonstrating via the information what this attack involved as a self experience.

The CIA notorious for applying dis-information frequent websites to attack personal references to their secret occult studies.
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Me too, It's called rain/snow/hail.

Also congrats on a post that resembles a readable language.
 
wendy moir said:
I do not live in America. I am a housewife who has experienced an atmospheric attack. I am demonstrating via the information what this attack involved as a self experience.

The CIA notorious for applying dis-information frequent websites to attack personal references to their secret occult studies.
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Just for fun I went to the CIA career page. They don't seem to have any openings for people who study the occult. They're mostly looking for people with degrees in regional studies, languages, IT, that sort thing. None of their career paths seemed to relate to the occult.
 
Craig4 said:
Just for fun I went to the CIA career page. They don't seem to have any openings for people who study the occult. They're mostly looking for people with degrees in regional studies, languages, IT, that sort thing. None of their career paths seemed to relate to the occult.
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You're clearly not reading between the lines here...
 
Several times whilst trying to post my computer was attacked and shut down.

The situation I am discussing involves illegal scientific atmospheric experiments.
How I understood I was involved.
The information regarding the involvement.
The types of attacks I received.
Why I was purposely being studied.

I have listed a series of threats and then circumstances involving these threats.

As I advised I was told that being involved in the mind contact and mind study that no-one would believe me and that any form of advice would be dealt with. Nevertheless I will continue to inform the public of my situation.

The threats were numerous involving my family, friends and animals.

2 horse suppliers we used had their premises burnt down.
A pile of cigarette butts left outside of my property.
Our neighbor on the day he was fixing our lawnmower, his wife witnessed a roadside fire said to be lit by a cigarette. The road was called WOMMA
The occult term for sound circles is "a devil mowing" WOM - MOW.
My cat suddenly gained seizures, and he was very health.
Our healthy dog died for no apparent reason.
My horse had to be euthanased involving a rare condition.
My son had his car stolen and burnt out
My son and sister had a car crash 1 day following each other
My son had his car broken into in a repair shop
My daughter in law who is Chinese was threatened at work by a sword wielding bandit.
Years ago a psychic told me that the song American Pie personally related to me
In that song it says moss grows fat on a rolling stone.
The rolling stones about to have an Australian concert, girlfriend dies.
A plane with Chinese aboard mysteriously disappears in the "Indian" ocean.
Peach Geldorf dies. My husband brought peaches this week and was previously buying bananas.
When I first got attacked I was so distressed that I could not eat and lost a tremendous amount of weight (became really skinny)
The same time a female french exchange student is murdered by a head trauma.
My nieces are in France.
I cleaned out hair from my brush, when I fed my horses there was a huge amount of hair cut off one of my horses.
Several months ago minature horses were murdered.
My foal replacing the loss of my horse had a clean cut like a knife wound on her rump.
Yesterday when I went out to my front yard, at the gate was a cigarette pack with the "warning" side sitting in my driveway.

This circumstance is real.
 
So what you're saying is your experiencing life (except for the bit about the psychic, that's nothing). Sorry you're having a rough few weeks/months but that stuff happens to everyone.
 
Craig4 said:
So what you're saying is your experiencing life (except for the bit about the psychic, that's nothing). Sorry you're having a rough few weeks/months but that stuff happens to everyone.
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I never knew that everyone was being threatened with a purpose that involved the CIA and an illegal atmospheric brain contact situation?

What I am detailing is a fact that I was mind contacted by this program with a purpose for experiment. That I was also threatened and that these threats involve circumstantial evidence. Whilst circumstantial cannot be used legally, I can still refer to the evidence that it implies in the public forum for consideration involving CIA tactics and illegal activities.
 
wendy moir said:
I never knew that everyone was being threatened with a purpose that involved the CIA and an illegal atmospheric brain contact situation?

What I am detailing is a fact that I was mind contacted by this program with a purpose for experiment. That I was also threatened and that these threats involve circumstantial evidence. Whilst circumstantial cannot be used legally, I can still refer to the evidence that it implies in the public forum for consideration involving CIA tactics and illegal activities.
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Yeah, this is nothing. It's just something you or some fraud claiming to have psychic powers made up. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
xterra said:
Ms. Moir,

You mentioned in post #1724 that there are "secret occult science practices being applied by NASA."

Without discussing anything else about your beliefs, please briefly answer these questions. If you have website references other than the ones you have already posted, your including them would be much appreciated.

1. What are these practices?

2. Against whom or against what are they being applied?

3. In what way are they occult, that is, supernatural or not known to normal everyday scientists, including nuclear physicists and astrophysicists.*

4. How did you find out about this secret knowledge and about how NASA's involvment?

Thank you.

xterra


*Occult" just means "hidden," but in normal English usage has come to mean supernatural or paranormal.)
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According to Hoagland, these cross-correlated public records now provide firm evidence of an astonishing, official link between NASA’s supposedly strictly “scientific” missions and millennia-old occult beliefs
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip03.htm

The amount of UFO sightings and human experiences involving the sightings.
The actual physical related cellular changes involved in the experience.
The discussions of the psyche involved in the experiences.

If you reference the human psyche we relate information in our consciousness via many different applied situations.

Brain and mind contact quantifiable as Russian Scientists demonstrated determined that the brain could be contacted via an outside contact and it demonstrated to receive information regarding the applied contact.

Humans would therefore identify via a scientific experiment that the information contacting them was also experimenting on them. Is part of the human psychic condition. How many human beings have implied that they were being experimented upon?

Do you really believe that extraterrestrial beings are contacting us and also experimenting on us.
OR
Is it a viable over view that Scientists using extra "terrestrial" transmissions are contacting our brain condition and experimenting on our cellular interactions as a chemical relationship?

Our psyche or ability to review circumstances is the reason that humans became self aware and were enabled to pursue Science itself. Therefore originally, or original thought allows for an established psyche situation to be developed to pursue creation observations.

Therefore via chemical brain interactions we create thoughts. Thoughts determine relationships and our thoughts imply detail or information involving the review. We have told ourselves that extra terrestrial involves extra or added signals involving Earth's natural terrestrial condition.

Secondly we have advised ourselves that ET involves artificial intelligence.

Who creates artificial intelligence....Scientists do.

Studying NASA and the CIA therefore has revealed that they are interested in artificial intelligence, the creation of a situation to imply an artificial means of acting in a reference that implies to a Creator or God situation.

This is what the occult reasons.
www.telegraph.co.uk › ... › Large Hadron Collider‎

Jul 4, 2012
Scientists believe they have captured the elusive "God particle" that ... of a discovery ever since CERN, the ...


The God gene hypothesis proposes that a specific gene (VMAT2) predisposes humans towards spiritual or mystic experiences. The idea has been postulated by geneticist Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the U.S. National Cancer Institute, and author of the 2005 book The God Gene: How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes.

The God gene hypothesis is based on a combination of behavioral genetic, neurobiological and psychological studies. The major arguments of the hypothesis are: (1) spirituality can be quantified by psychometric measurements; (2) the underlying tendency to spirituality is partially heritable; (3) part of this heritability can be attributed to the gene VMAT2;[1] (4) this gene acts by altering monoamine levels; and (5) spiritual individuals are favored by natural selection because they are provided with an innate sense of optimism, the latter producing positive effects at either a physical or psychological level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene

Answering question 4. I found out about it because I began as a psychic precept to hear Science. I heard the information and recorded the information. I then referenced the information on websites, which I propose was my mistake. This caused NASA to be aware that I was hearing their scientific relayed human studies, studies that involved transmitting radiated sound into human cells to gain feedback data for cellular replacement.

If you take these references yourself and study the proposal of Science, they propose that they are copying DNA in a circumstance to artificially create a situation for cellular replacing. This involves their research for gaining a fuel replaceable resource or a BIO FUEL condition.

As Nature is the only situation involving cell replacement they are illegally experimenting on us, altering the atmospheric conditions as implied by many studies involving global warming.

As radiated sound involves radiation, and radiation studied by NASA involving their thoughts regarding cellular formation in Nature, the review can substantiate what they are actually studying via the atmospheric condition and UFO activated cellular attacks on human beings and animals.

In previous quotes I demonstrated that they are studying the world oceans regarding BIO FUELS and that the oceans demonstrate to be heating.

OCCULT, a method applied as acts in creation as a literature of the ancients also implies that when the conditions naturally created called a Creator or God were changed that it caused natural disasters.

Archaeology and geology demonstrate that the Earth was once covered in oceans and this water is salt water. Beneath the oceans are lava flows churning beneath the sea. The water a condition that keeps the lava beneath the ocean at a particular temperature condition.

As we all are aware that water falls out of the sky as a condition for a drinking water, and that the sea is heavily salted, and the occult documents regarding God and altering of the Laws of Stone state a "salting function" occurs, shouldn't this concern anyone of you questioning the NASA program?

If UFO bodies are also witnessed coming out of the ocean, shouldn't the obvious imply when reviewing our life situation. That NASA, involved in test and experimentation on our atmosphere is involved in the attacks on our humanity?
 
"American Pie" is Don Mclean's tribute to the rock personalities killed in a private plane crash.
Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, the Big Bopper... and that's ALL it is!
And, a classic that will live a long time!
The other events.... **** happens.
If you tend to see signs and portents in ordinary daily life, you WILL see those signs!
People dump full ashtrays in public and private places, etc...
And it will always be your own imagination "seeing" those things, with the aid of avaricious "psychics" taking you to the cleaners... i.e. lying to you, and getting paid for it!
 
Craig4 said:
Yeah, this is nothing. It's just something you or some fraud claiming to have psychic powers made up. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Only a human being who does not understand the human psyche would call psychic a "power".

How do you think......by using your brain process to create thoughts.

How do you think Science was established....by using your brain process to create thoughts and from thoughts functions that apply to scientific pursuit.

Therefore originally the human psyche condition once proposed to be involved in the occult applications regarded a situation the ancients used for gaining wisdom.

As Scientists demonstrate for many years their theories regarding scientific proposals were non productive. NASA therefore decided to pursue the occult and in doing so needed to use human psyche situations that involve DNA.

They understood, that human beings in ancient civilization gained their literature awareness of creation via occult methods, and this involved psychics. Some circumstances involved the human beings sitting above volcanic activity involving radiated signals. Volcanic activity involved in UFO sightings both at earthquake sites and also mountain sites.

Radiated sound is being studied by NASA and the human psyche worldwide is gaining attacks from UFO situations.

Wikipedia

The Pythia (pronounced /ˈpɪθiə/ or /ˈpaɪθiə/, Greek: Πυθία [pyːˈtʰi.a]), commonly known as the Oracle of Delphi, was the name of any priestess throughout the history of Temple of Apollo at Delphi, located on the slopes of Mount Parnassus, beneath the Castalian Spring (the new priestess was selected after the death of the current priestess). The Pythia was widely credited for her prophecies inspired by Apollo. The Delphic oracle was established in the 8th century BC,[1] although it may have been present in some form in Late Mycenaean times,[2] from 1400 BC and was abandoned, and there is evidence that Apollo took over the shrine from an earlier dedication to Gaia.[3] The last recorded response was given about 395 A.D. to Emperor Theodosius I, after he had ordered pagan temples to cease operation. During this period the Delphic Oracle was the most prestigious and authoritative oracle among the Greeks. The oracle is one of the best-documented religious institutions of the classical Greeks. Authors who mention the oracle include Aeschylus, Aristotle, Clement of Alexandria, Diodorus, Diogenes, Euripides, Herodotus, Julian, Justin, Livy, Lucan, Ovid, Pausanias, Pindar, Plato, Plutarch, Sophocles, Strabo, Thucydides, and Xenophon.

The name "Pythia" derived from Pytho, which in myth was the original name of Delphi. The Greeks derived this place name from the verb, pythein (πύθειν, "to rot"), which refers to the decomposition of the body of the monstrous Python after she was slain by Apollo.[4] The usual theory has been that the Pythia delivered oracles in a frenzied state induced by vapors rising from a chasm in the rock, and that she spoke gibberish which priests interpreted as the enigmatic prophecies preserved in Greek literature.[5]


If you care to notice, as I stated before GIBBERISH is a common term attack the CIA use against me on websites.
 
I Ratant said:
"American Pie" is Don Mclean's tribute to the rock personalities killed in a private plane crash.
Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, the Big Bopper... and that's ALL it is!
And, a classic that will live a long time!
The other events.... **** happens.
If you tend to see signs and portents in ordinary daily life, you WILL see those signs!
People dump full ashtrays in public and private places, etc...
And it will always be your own imagination "seeing" those things, with the aid of avaricious "psychics" taking you to the cleaners... i.e. lying to you, and getting paid for it!
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As usual a personal attack using quips that involve my personal life.

As I live in the country, for a person to dump their ashtray of cigarette butts outside of my gate is not a reasonable explanation as you imply because it also involves the roadside fire incident I explained.

Also a personal fact that I was being paid for house cleaning.

What about the fact my daughter in law is Chinese, and a Chinese plane mysteriously disappears in the Indian Ocean involving conspiracy theories. Who are the native spirits in America? Indians.

I don't look for signs, the song information is being used by the CIA as they know this psychic interpretation was given to me and they use the information stated in it as a scare tactic by actually applying it.

The psychic was not paid either, it was a friend. I don't believe in paying psychics.

As was explained to me about psychic premonitions, human beings who believe in them cause them to happen. I never really understood the implied meaning to this psychic statement until I was involved in the experiment.

NASA is using sound radiated techniques and they are changing atmospheric sound. When sound dies as music "them good ole boys" will die on this day. What would this reference imply to Buddy Holly and their plane crash, music did not die when they did? Don McLean questioned about the lyrics could give no explanation about their references as implied information.

Word quotes
So bye-bye, Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry
And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin' "This'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die"

[Verse 1]
Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so?
Now do you believe in rock and roll
Can music save your mortal soul

Song writing uses the human psyche and the human when writing employs their brain function as a method, which is the same situation that psychics employ to gain information once called a Muse. Meaning for a Muse states .
(in Greek and Roman mythology) each of nine goddesses, the daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne, who preside over the arts and sciences.

Therefore song melodies have demonstrated to actually include predictions via the state of an implied Muse, why else would the song ask about faith, God and the mortal soul all occult meanings.

I have quoted before that Levi or levis levitation implied an ancient sound method of altering atomic stone bonds for stone lightening. In the biblical occult quotes it states well full and well dry.

Good ole boys is also an American review of the Government and the secret "boys clubs" they are involved in.
 
Craig4 said:
Just for fun I went to the CIA career page. They don't seem to have any openings for people who study the occult. They're mostly looking for people with degrees in regional studies, languages, IT, that sort thing. None of their career paths seemed to relate to the occult.
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Documented fact, the CIA is employed in the study and applications involving the occult.

Do you think that you are funny implying that the CIA has not been involved in illegal activities? What do you think espionage is?
Free Dictionary meaning Espionage quote
The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret. It can involve the analysis of diplomatic reports, publications, statistics, and broadcasts, as well as spying, a clandestine activity carried out by an individual or individuals working under secret identity to gather classified information on behalf of another entity or nation. In the United States, the organization that heads most activities dedicated to espionage is the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

Espionage, commonly known as spying, is the practice of secretly gathering information about a foreign government or a competing industry, with the purpose of placing one's own government or corporation at some strategic or financial advantage.
Despite its illegal status, espionage is commonplace

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2009/11/conclusion-of-nasa-lawsuit-concerning_10.html
In late 1993, inquiries from several UFO researchers led CIA Director R. James Woolsey to order a review of all CIA files on UFOs. This agency-wide search occurred in 1994 and centralized the CIA’s UFO files. Taking advantage of this opportunity, government historian Gerald K. Haines reviewed the documents, conducted interviews, and wrote a study examining the CIA’s interest

http://www.rense.com/general54/ewerwopr.htm
 
New Orleans flooded because the levitations broke?
Southern Gentlemen in skiffle groups call themselves Good Old Boys because they are secretly Etonions in the Old Boys Network?
 
abaddon said:
The "venom" Craig4 refers to is the apparent venom in your posts. He makes no mention of snakes.

I have no idea how you imagine this is present in Craig4's post.

Tinnitus exists. UFOs do not.

This is probably off topic, but since you are unable to identify a topic, I can't be sure. In any event, religious delusions do not count for....well anything, really.



The various ramblings of primitive goat herders don't count for anything either.


WTF? I can understand the individual words, but the meaning of the sentence as a whole is elusive.


Experience what exactly?
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With the quote regarding venom, and then another post regarding snakes, are you the CIA or are you as posters demonstrating to be mind affected by them in your personal quotations?

UFO an unidentified flying object photographed worldwide. The explanation of the UFO is what is argued over, not the actual FACT of its observed formation.

Physical reactions are given explanations involving particular situations such as the UFO situation demonstrates. In the UFO situation hearing is affected, tinnitus is an actual physical ailment, it does not involve a UFO.

When a group of humans are affected with the same symptom you try to imply some form of group delusion or is it a group experience?

I don't understand why you need to use derogatory personal insults as some form of reply?
 
I read pages 1 and 7.

I don't think reading the intervening pages will help.

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To Wendy: I sincerely hope things get better for you.

To other posters: please remember that there is a person at the other end of this discussion.
 
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