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Kid Eager said:
My bolding - anything that forms evidence to support any of the random claims above would be a damn fine start.

You have made assertions: Assertions are not evidence, and the evidence contradicting your assertions is extremely deep and wide.

Your use of the word "therefore" is flawed. It is not a substitute for an explanation, but rather is meant to link a premise to a logical conclusion.

So far, none of your conclusions are supported by any of your premises, no matter how many times you use the word "therefore".
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As I did not use bold imprint myself, as I am not familiarized with its application, I would question the website as to the reason it was placed in my thread?
 
Kid Eager said:
My bolding - anything that forms evidence to support any of the random claims above would be a damn fine start.

You have made assertions: Assertions are not evidence, and the evidence contradicting your assertions is extremely deep and wide.

Your use of the word "therefore" is flawed. It is not a substitute for an explanation, but rather is meant to link a premise to a logical conclusion.

So far, none of your conclusions are supported by any of your premises, no matter how many times you use the word "therefore".
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Therefore (meaning) for this or that reason, consequently.
Human beings are advised in any situation by self experience and by observation, situations involving consequences. This is what is implied.

I have my own life self experience which I am discussing.
I have other's life self experience which I have read as informed statements.
I have scientific studies to read as informed statements.
 
wendy moir said:
As I did not use bold imprint myself, as I am not familiarized with its application, I would question the website as to the reason it was placed in my thread?
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> the purpose of the bolding is to draw your attention to that sentence, and what is implied there.
 
I then also studied the religious review of the transmisSION as a relationship to receiving and hearing the applied study as a psychic related event. It demonstrated that as I was born on January 31 and the biblical literature recounted destructive applied acts that did apply to scientific counting methods employed in the use of atomic relationships, it verified why I was hearing it.
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Is the date of your birth not recorded otherwise?
What did Mums and Daddums tell you about that?
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The bolding is the purest gibberish you have posted yet.
Do try to be coherent and intelligible in your postings.
 
Agatha said:
Thank you for replying, though I did ask you to explain your ideas in a concise (short) fashion rather than a massive wall of text which jumps from subject to subject apparently at random.

I'm sure that what you are trying to explain seems both obvious and simple to you, and I'm sure it's frustrating for you to have to keep explaining to us what is clear to you. But unfortunately some words that you use make no sense in the context of your sentences; you appear to be ascribing different meanings to the words than their standard dictionary (widely understood) definitions, so it's very difficult to follow your thoughts.

Apart from woo sites, I can find no evidence that human remains have ever been found in coal formations. I can find some evidence that human remains have been found in coal after it has been dug out of the ground. I can find no evidence that any of these remains have been dated to a time when humans were not thought to have existed.

De-evolution would be no change over time. Can you produce some of this archaeological evidence for "de-evolution"?
Can you explain how these ancient humans 'caused' the earth to be 'irradiated' by the sun? Sunlight, which existed long before there were humans on the earth, is mainly formed of three types of non-ionising radiation (infrared light, visible light and ultraviolet light). The word 'irradiated' is usually used to refer to the effects part of the EMR spectrum which is ionising radiation.
Coal is formed by pressure on dead organic material, not by sunlight.

I'm sorry, but this sentence as written makes no sense. What attack? Where did 'Nature' go that it then returned? Your mention of natural selection implies you do accept evolution, but your discussion above about Biblical theories and de-evolution seem to imply that you do not accept evolution as fact.

Again, you seem to be using words with non-standard definitions, so your sentence is impossible to understand.

I think you may be talking about meteors. They are a natural and well-understood phenomenon, and despite the laymen's term 'falling stars' they are not stars, nor do they originate from stars. What identifiable cellular reactions do you mean?

'Therefore' is usually used to introduce a conclusion which follows from the premises previously explained. But nothing you said above has anything to do with building structures, or any alleged secret orders.

What orders? And who are 'they'?

Can you show chapter and verse of these 'stone levitation practices' and explain who or what is altering atomic bonds? What is the 'radiation' level, and how does altering atomic bonds cause meteors to hit the earth?

Rather than address your entire post at this time, I've just addressed the first few points as it appears that these are the basics on which the remainder of your post depends. If my time permits, and hopefully following your reply to the above request for more explanation, I will address the rest of your post.

By the way, asking if you are or ever have taken or been prescribed psycho-active drugs is not an insult. Mental illness is not something of which to be ashamed. Many people come here with very long and somewhat disorganised posts, or with posts exhibiting some degree of paranoia, and it is almost always the case that these people are suffering from a mental illness which distorts their thinking, causes them to see connections in otherwise unconnected things, and prevents them from seeing the world in the same way as the majority of the population. Sometimes this can lead to unhappiness, difficulty relating to others and feelings of isolation or of danger. The reason people here ask the question is to encourage those who are suffering to seek some help with their illness, and to ensure that the reasons for their distorted view of the world is taken into account when replying. Very few people here are psychiatrists and nobody can provide a diagnosis over the internet.
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SELF COMBUSTION to "char" as a reviewed observation involving incidents of actualized "strike situations" in Nature as first warning evidence. Nature can be obliterated and the life on Earth as a planetary/atmospheric condition continue and then re nature itself. Therefore evidence for evolution into a de-evolution in Nature can be observed.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/unexplained-phenomena/shc.htm

Definition of CHAR

: to convert to charcoal or carbon usually by heat : burn

: to burn slightly or partly : scorch <the fire charred the beams>

intransitive verb

: to become charred


Origin of CHAR

charcoal

An ancient incidence. Vedic information studied by many to have inferences to nuclear awareness in the literature.
veda.wikidot.com/ancient-city-found-in-india-irradiated-from-atomic-blast‎

A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ... an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, ... One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of ...

STONE LEVITATION, an ancient practice implied through the value of LEVI or levis = levitation. This also involves the argument of ancient building practices among archaeologists. The secret brotherhood called the MASONS relates to information of secret teachings and secret building practices.

www.rense.com/general42/soundlev.htm‎

213-217; A New Zealand scientist recently gave me an intriguing extract from an article ... in a German magazine, relating to a demonstration of levitation in Tibet. ... When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal ...

Regarding the application of stone lightening for levitation, meaning an applied science to cause atomic bonds in stone to change via SOUND RADIATION. Radiation a body of mass thrown out by the Sun. The Sun a harmonic body

Studying the Sun Through Its Sound Waves - NYTimes.com

www.nytimes.com/.../studying-the-sun-through-its-sound-waves.html‎

Feb 13, 2012 - Much as seismic waves are used to study the Earth's interior, sound waves bubbling to the Sun's surface give scientists clues about its

Revelation 22:18 ESV / 4 helpful votes

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book

OBSERVATIONS in life, a life ancient humans in literature discussed as a creative situation involving acts that related to a Creator they called God. Warning sign is stigmata, stated to be an Act involving Christ. EBOLA, blood oozing out of human tissue, the Christ warning, blood oozing out of human tissue.

The Christ as an Act is stated in the Old Testatments BEFORE the supposed birth of Christ. Hence this factor was used as EVIDENCE by ancient astronomers regarding fall out (star fall) in the Earth's atmospheric condition and future predictable natural disasters. The evidence in the future would have determined that using sound levitation caused plagues and disasters.

Astronomers therefore verified the situation via star bodies and their falling cells and how it altered life on Earth involving radiation SOUND, or what they proposed was angelic sound involving the burnt Earth body and the atmospheric Heavenly body and radiated sound bodies released by our Sun as a historical destructive universal situation.
http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefactsandlists/a/Prophecies-Jesus.htm

Michael Cremo has a long list of artifacts involving a theory of de-evolution.
Coal miners have found artifacts.http://www.rense.com/general82/nations.htm

Science applied version of a planet/moon hitting Earth and meteor hits that caused crustal displacement.....via volcanic eruptions flowing lava above ground over the top of the charcoal event or charred life decimation as evidence.

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/thehub/hundres-of-millions-of-years-old-metal-alloy-artifacts-found

Then you have historic evidence of secret religious brotherhoods, religions of difference acting together as a stated Holy War. The ancient astronomical evidence that involved observations of fall out and that the use or application of stone levitation caused the Earth, a Holy life to be attacked via evidence in their societies involving plagues and natural disasters.

The story of the Holy Grail and the Ark of the Covenant and the keeping of its secrets as a holy act, as the preservation for future life continuance.

The Roman Empire who changed their own religious belief once involved in anima type religious belief who then followed the astronomical evidence of the Christ. Keeping astronomical records to correlate received life changing radiation receipts in Nature to then pursue those on Earth who broke the Laws of God as unlawful and unholy acts.

Why else would the Roman Empire pursue other religious beliefs worldwide by astronomical "pinpointing" the landmass/humanity using/applying stone levitation practices that they purposely noted were involved in unholy religious situations.

By observing the religious pursuits of ancient stone building techniques, such as at Stonehenge, and the Roman invasion and murder of the Priests and humans involved in the ancient practices involving levitation seems to demonstrate this truth. It is not difficult to observe the situation yourself involving religious belief and the applications involved in the beliefs that have always implied an involvement in some form of scientific pursuit as an ANTI situation or life decimation pursuit as unholy.

The Catholic Church themselves demonstrate this in today's society circumstance.

What does the application of scientific pursuit employ? The acts involving greed and power mongering for the purpose of particular elite members in society who ascertain that they are allowed to make life changing choices for the total population on Planet Earth.

This is what the ancient argument regards, the illegal scientific studies of evolution and life that is causing sickness and death as observed by humanity that is being disregarded by the elite involved in the pursuit of future resources.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
If the CIA was out to get me, they probably would. :mad:
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If the CIA are involved in a NASA pursued illegal scientific study regarding brain chemical reactions and the environment, then I hope to give personal evidence of this pursuit.

As far as the CIA harming anyone, and for any of us to make comment involving this situation could only demonstrate that many of us believe in their illegal criminal activity they call espionage. This would demonstrate that the American Government is involved in illegal criminal activity, and employ human beings for this purpose besides from espionage itself.

Shouldn't this situation itself be dealt with on a world community advice?
 
I Ratant said:
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Is the date of your birth not recorded otherwise?
What did Mums and Daddums tell you about that?
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The bolding is the purest gibberish you have posted yet.
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The Bible recounts acts in creation said to be destructive.

The Sun or atomic reactions involve counting, adding and timed events.

We were taught to count and to use numbers as a symbolic reference to time, as literature taught to us because of religious pursuits involving ancient philosophers. These philosophers were involved with astronomy and sun time recordings. Scientists also use these denominators in scientific practices.

I was born on a particular day. This day in biblical literature discusses destructive events. As a human being is self aware as consciousness, we have realization involved in the atmospheric condition as timed situations involving the Sun/atomic or nuclear situations.

The atmosphere said to be Heaven in the bible literature as a life/spirit situation of holiness, therefore demonstrates it is involved in chemical effects of the mind when it is abused by burning scientific pursuits. Burning of the atmosphere (unholy spirit) allows for thoughts to be affected, and for mind imagery to be affected.

As a human being became involved spiritually in mind altering affects (as per shamanic practices advise) then human beings affected by today's atmospheric conditions demonstrate via their multi daily worldwide experiences to be gaining an attack from the atmosphere because of CHEMICAL CHANGES caused by SCIENCE.
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wendy moir said:
As I did not use bold imprint myself, as I am not familiarized with its application, I would question the website as to the reason it was placed in my thread?
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Bold lettering is a sure sign of cia operative.
 
Dinwar said:
I'm reasonably certain the FBI watches me (in a non-conspiracy sort of way--they admitted to doing some of it last time they interviewed my mother, and send her Christmas cards now). So I'm probably not helping.

I don't. The dead guy I dug up was 15,000 years old, and had been cooked. It was an ARCHAEOLOGICAL find, near an ancient village. Plus, the CIA doesn't deal with my family much. We deal more with the FBI.

Plus, the federal government is far more likely to blow me up than to blow someone up at my request. NASA has tried three times at this point.

Not at all. I merely point out that what it does, it does well. I've got a sister that's an artist and one that's a professor of British literature; I know perfectly well that there are areas outside of science.

As for it being what we NEVER needed, that's a flat-out lie. If you're alive today, you have science to thank, pure and simple. Artificial refrigeration alone is responsible for saving billions of lives (every life saved by any medicine that has to be kept cold).

You obviously have never done it. Try it sometime. Try living without the products of science. Use nothing but 14th century technology to survive. I give you two days before you come crying back to technology.

It really grinds my gears when people complain about technology on a computer. Guess what? COMPUTERS ARE TECHNOLOGY. If you were honest, you'd go live without it. It's possible; my grandfather, to my knowledge, has never used anything more advanced than a calculator (and that was only after he lost his slide rule). But you don't. You want all the advantages of technology, while screaming out against it. Hypocrite.

This doesn't even make sense. You appear to be saying that cancer is de-evolution, which shows a gross misunderstanding of evolution on your part. Individual bodies don't evolve; they can develop genetic diseases, but those are not passed on. And as for oxygen levels, variations in oxygen levels through time have been very slow, and continue to be very slow. I've seen the records; we're talking variations on the order of millions of years.

Oh, I can. For one thing, I'm inside my head and you aren't, so I know what I believe about myself and you don't. I never see myself as the Creator. I'm a necromancer--I talk to the dead. Necromancy is not a field that allows one to develop an over-inflated ego. We're all worm food in the end--and I know exactly what'll happen to me. And as far as natural conditions go, they were borked before science developed. The loss of the Pleistocene megafauna in North America, Asia, South America, Australia, etc. pretty much means that the ecosystem was going to undergo massive re-ordering regardless of what humans did. Nature is in constant flux; there is no "natural state", only "things as they are today".

Demonstrably false. The joke is, if you're never wrong, you're not doing science. Scientists are proven wrong constantly. We've even developed methods of examining the universe that REQUIRE us to be wrong (mutually exclusive working hypotheses; by definition, at least one will be disproven at the end of the investigation). The only people who take that as evidence of failure on the part of science are crackpots. The rational folks accept that errors are informative.
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Scientists argue as their constant, they argue over interpretation of data.

The constant of Nature is that it is self developed and self evolved. Oxygen demonstrates that evolution of genetic material develops very slowly and has taken many years to self develop into the situation of current time DNA.

Whenever human beings decide to alter the natural life circumstance by manipulating environmental states, they cause the destruction of their own evolved life circumstance.

Science and its pursuits demonstrate to have also been applied by ancients, as is their own archaeological evidence of self destruction.

Evolution is suppose to involve conscious awareness of our self destructive Nature, so that we can live healthily and as safely as we can.

If we realized in our past that by altering radiated sound we caused pressure changes that created natural disasters, then we observed this situation as a self perpetuated act. We recorded the information for future advice.

If we realized in our past that by altering radiated sound we caused ourselves to gain plagues, then we recorded this awareness for the future of life itself on Planet Earth.

Therefore self awareness is meant to support future life existence.

When a Scientist implies that the past (ancient evolution of the Universe) is going to allow him to gain a future resource, he is sadly mistaken. As the past of the Universe only allows our current life situation to exist, it quantifies to be an evolved situation.

At the moment our current life situation is faced with the evidence of increased natural disasters, not only killing millions of humans, but also taking away from them their housing and their ability to grow food for themselves.

Life is sustained through the human ability to provide for their own shelter and for the food to be grown and harvested. Without simple basics we don't have life.

When a Scientist proposes that if not for his ability in life to concur a situation for his ego stroking self to be pronounced in a social condition to be above that of everyone else as a self evident proposal, then this would provide the ego maniac spruiking about his scientific achievements to recognize that he is in reality implying himself to be the Creator of all situations needed in life.

A reality check should be advised for this type of ignorance, for without life basics, you don't have life at all. Therefore the Creator was given the idolized position in ancient culture and not the High Priest (scientist/astronomer) only because of the evidence the ancient human awareness gained involving their own human deceit that destroyed their cultures, their great civilizations that were decimated by scientific applications.

Nature will always win.
 
Wendy,
Repeating a massive wall of disconnected thought does nothing to improve the situation.

As has been mentioned in numerous other responses in this thread, the separate claims in your posts do not link logically to each other. To make matters worse, taken separately, the claims are often in themselves invalid.

I'm sure you think you're seeing a picture of something, but to everybody else it's scattered thoughts.

ETA - and part of the problem is your lack of competency to speak on the subjects you appear to be trying to address. A lack of scientific knowledge is hardly a good starting point from which to critique science, let alone trying to draw "scientific" conclusions from flawed thinking and religious fervour.

Further ETA: What the hell is this "radiated sound" you keep referring to?
 
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wendy moir said:
Gibberish is a commonly used phrase by the CIA, I have seen it used on other websites.
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Was the use of the word in response to one of your posts?
Because they are gibberish.

And there is still no such think as chemtrails other than the childish fantasies of the gullible.
 
wendy moir said:
Gibberish is a commonly used phrase by the CIA, I have seen it used on other websites.

I am not claiming to be psychic, I explained the application involving psychic as an experience. Experience applies an actual situation, which psychic has demonstrated investigated as a Science.
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None. NOT. A. SINGLE. ONE. EVER.
 
wendy moir said:
Gibberish is a commonly used phrase by the CIA, I have seen it used on other websites.

I am not claiming to be psychic, I explained the application involving psychic as an experience. Experience applies an actual situation, which psychic has demonstrated investigated as a Science.
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"Gibberish" is a word, not a phrase. It is commonly used by many. I am sure the CIA uses other words frequently as well, but it does not remove them from our vocabulary. Whoever has used it, and whether or not its use was always correct, it describes your writing.

You have consistently ignored my previous posts, but I am going to keep on asking anyway:

in a previous post, you included a great deal of text and a link, purporting to show a UFO near the World Trade Center. When I opened the link I found, first of all, that the entire text of your post was pasted from it without attribution, and second, that the bulk of the page that you did not post was a detailed discussion of how the hoax video was produced by an actress for publicity.

I still want to know what you thought you were linking to.
 
wendy moir said:
As a psychic I then studied the scientific relationships that were being employed by Scientists at NASA as an occult relayed study of organic relationships and radiation.
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This phrase is meaningless and worthless. "As a psychic" is an utterly meaningless phrase with which to try and validate your claims.
Psychic is not an academic. One can not check your psychic qualifications. There are no psychic methodologies.
A scientist might study scientific relationships.
An occultist or folklorist can describe occult interpretations of events (though "occult relayed study" is gibberish).

Scientists, with credentials in biology, chemistry and physics describe the relationships between forms of radiation and organic matter. Radiation is not an organism, so can't have an organic relationship (and if it could I have to wonder about the sanity of somebody who wants to see some hot control rod action!)

Your argument, what ever it is trying to say, is nothing but a quagmire of nonsense.
 
wendy moir said:
If the CIA are involved in a NASA pursued illegal scientific study regarding brain chemical reactions and the environment, then I hope to give personal evidence of this pursuit.
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Too late. The write ups on the CIA sponsored research into behaviour modification have been in the public sphere for quite some time.

As far as the CIA harming anyone, and for any of us to make comment involving this situation could only demonstrate that many of us believe in their illegal criminal activity they call espionage. This would demonstrate that the American Government is involved in illegal criminal activity, and employ human beings for this purpose besides from espionage itself.

Shouldn't this situation itself be dealt with on a world community advice?
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Espionage is obtaining information by one government about another in a covert manner. It is not always illegal (much information can be obtained from publically available materials such as newspapers, trade magazines, radio and television broadcasts, etc. That information is then collected and analyzed to see if it tells a coherent story that allows the collector to adjust their behaviour to better improve their own position.

Here's the rub, we all do espionage at some level - we listen to the office gossips to find out who's doing what to whom, we listen to people to figure out where we can go to get a better deal on our mortgage, we try to find out if that cute guy/girl is dating anyone and if they might be interested in us, etc. Countries do it on a larger scale.
 
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