BBC report says 31 children were saved: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6763817.stm
Huge pedophile ring busted
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That was the most disturbing part for me as well.
What I am not comprehending is that the arrest publicity is focused on the guys that facilitated the online distribution of these images and feeds. What about the people that actually committed the abuse? There is a mention of rescued children, but there doesn't seem to be mention of what happened to the people they were rescued from. Were they their parents? Were they kidnapped? Were they orphans?
There's something missing from this story.
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Well, I know they try to over sensationalize these kind of stories to cause hysteria, but this does sound on the face like it could have been a pretty bad situation.
But I don't buy the 1 in 4 women have been sexually abused as a child. I really don't even know how you could come up with a statistic like that. What did they do poll all of the women?
I really think that the ring that was busted would be a real rarity, and don't believe that there are pedophilies lurking on every street corner, or at least the kind that would torture kids.
But I don't buy the 1 in 4 women have been sexually abused as a child. I really don't even know how you could come up with a statistic like that. What did they do poll all of the women?
I really think that the ring that was busted would be a real rarity, and don't believe that there are pedophilies lurking on every street corner, or at least the kind that would torture kids.
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I didn't come up with it. I made it quite plain it was simply a number I'd heard bandied about. Like 1 in 5 dentists choose Trident gum.
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Why is it that not only there are sickos who are sexually attracted to children (which is horrible enough already), but they -need- their pornographic material to be explicitly violent, too? I remember a story that was posted here a while ago, where someone described horrific videos with screaming children.I think I'm going to be sick...
You totally stole that from Fark.com.
It's plagiarism when someone says something original and someone else steals it. It's not plagiarism when a lot of people come up with a pretty obvious joke on the same subject on the same day. I bet thousands of people thought of this one independently, myself included.
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It's cool to jail a pedophile into a comfortable little prison, with frequent access to the Internet. As long as the holy "freedom of speech" lives, there will be thousands of legal websites using children as objects of erotic desire, camouflaged as "nudism / naturism" or "fashion photography, child models".
If you search Google with "india child abuse statistics", you will learn that 53% of children recently polled in India reported having been indecently abused in the past. Of these children 70% had never told anyone about it.
How many children are there in India (having a population of one billion, mostly young people)?
The good news is that in later life we remember hardly anything that happened under the age of three, and only very few things that happened under the age of 6 years. An adult victim of abuse will remember every smallest detail of it for the rest of her (or his) life.
If you search Google with "india child abuse statistics", you will learn that 53% of children recently polled in India reported having been indecently abused in the past. Of these children 70% had never told anyone about it.
How many children are there in India (having a population of one billion, mostly young people)?
The good news is that in later life we remember hardly anything that happened under the age of three, and only very few things that happened under the age of 6 years. An adult victim of abuse will remember every smallest detail of it for the rest of her (or his) life.
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You have to remember the rules regarding the reporting of criminal cases in the UK- giving too many details away at this stage may, given the horrific and emotionally charged nature of these crimes, give the defendants a credible claim that press reporting had so biased the public (and therefore their jurors) against them, that they had no hope of a fair trial. A claim which can lead to charges being dismissed.
Expect more details as they are revealed in open court.
Neither do I, but don't forget most abuse of children (of every kind) is done by someone in or close to the child's family or by someone who is a guardian of the child (e.g. child foster/care institutions).
Many sites state the 1 in 4 figure for females and give "Kinsey, 1953, Finkelhor, 1979" as a reference.
Checkmite
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Things are different now as opposed to twenty years ago, but I don't think the "market" as it were has gotten any bigger. The material has just become more plentiful, and free, so more pedos are partaking.
Think about it (after you take some pink bismuth) - once upon a time, people who made this stuff needed things like secure studios, money to process their pictures privately, and an advertising budget. Today, any dweeb can take two dozen such pictures a week in his living room on his digital camera, go to the computer, and ten minutes after the abuse thousands of likeminded garbage all over the world have pictures of it.
Think about it (after you take some pink bismuth) - once upon a time, people who made this stuff needed things like secure studios, money to process their pictures privately, and an advertising budget. Today, any dweeb can take two dozen such pictures a week in his living room on his digital camera, go to the computer, and ten minutes after the abuse thousands of likeminded garbage all over the world have pictures of it.
Read 'em and weep....
http://www.freewebs.com/tamarllc/thestats.htm
....it's freaking sad.
Like Slingblade, I know many women who have been sexually abused (Uncles seem to top the list
). The 1 in 4 stat doesn't surprise me at all.
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'freezing up' is a very common reaction. A lot of children do enjoy the sexual encounters that were abusive- its a huge thing to overcome for abuse victims, its harder to accept that its not your fault when there was enjoyment. A pedophile who molests the same child over and over spends a lot of time convincing the child that what is happening is 'ok' or 'normal, and plenty of kids believe their abusers and willingly participate in sexual activity. It does not make the events any less traumatic or painful, Im just saying that what people picture when they think of abuse is not always the reality. I think the portrayals and assumptions of what abuse 'looks like' is bad for victims of abuse that did not have (for lack of a better word)a cliche experience, it adds confusion and again makes it easier to self blame.
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Shhh. I was joking, myself.
I guess I shouldn't make any light banter in a thread like that.
Which is great but ultimately worthless unless it is videotaped and made readily available ie the scum doing this have a good chance of seeing it. And personally I'm for methodically slow torture, but it is a tough call....
Pls explain to me how you "over sensationalize" this.
Why yes, yes we do!
Agreed.
This is perhaps the most important element of situations like this.
Sure. Bring the criminals in, and deal them a harsh punishment. But I hope that the system doesn't fail to address the subjects of their enjoyment and the horrific treatment/torture that they endured for the perverse sexual pleasure of these a-holes.
Which of these children can ever expect to live a normal life after going through that hell?
And, even if some were babies who may not remember what happened, what kind of physical damage does forcible intercourse with an adult man cause? I can't imagine. Can they recover from that?
Essentially none.
Just because they can't remember it doesn't mean they don't suffer severe psychological damage FYI.
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I knew this woman at college who told me her first "sexual experience" was her boyfriend raping her on the back lawn. That's gotta be wonderful. And she wasn't even a little kid at the time.