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Howard Schultz Threatens 3rd Party Run

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Which could throw a monkey wrench into the Democrats plan to nominate a hard line liberal.

Howard Schultz, the former chief executive of Starbucks and a self-described “lifelong Democrat,” said Sunday he was preparing to run for president as an independent and had already begun the groundwork required to be on the ballot in all 50 states.

Mr. Schultz, in an interview with The New York Times, said he planned to crisscross the country for the next three months as part of a book tour before deciding whether to enter the race. A billionaire, Mr. Schultz would face a difficult road despite his considerable wealth: Few independent candidates have mounted successful challenges for the White House.
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I don't know why they say "Few" when they mean "No." It's true that a few independent candidates have gotten a significant amount of votes, but none of them have actually been successful in the sense of winning.
 
Brainster said:
Which could throw a monkey wrench into the Democrats plan to nominate a hard line liberal.



I don't know why they say "Few" when they mean "No." It's true that a few independent candidates have gotten a significant amount of votes, but none of them have actually been successful in the sense of winning.
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Well there'll never be a first time if no one ever tries.
 
Brainster said:
Which could throw a monkey wrench into the Democrats plan to nominate a hard line liberal.

I don't know why they say "Few" when they mean "No." It's true that a few independent candidates have gotten a significant amount of votes, but none of them have actually been successful in the sense of winning.
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I think Shultz is delusional. He's not very charismatic and not even popular in his home state of Washington. In fact, he's a bit of a pariah in Seattle.
 
Schultz has been floating this trial balloon for eight years, now. No one ever tries to catch the string to prevent it from floating away, though. He can get the press to do an interview or write an article but no one else seems interested.

It'll be interesting to see if he gets any supporters showing up on his book-selling tour.

I'd normally say he's a threat to Trump, but he's only a recent convert to "Independent" and that's a pretty hard sell to the modern GOPer.

I know he's rich but unless he's got backers, he can't actually announce as they're going into the preliminaries. He would have to outspend the Dem primary candidates five to one just to match all the free air time they get. And that would be even higher if a primary battle comes to the Republicans. He has to stay out of it until he can afford to battle one-off with the other two major party candidates. Vying for attention before summer of '20 would be far too expensive.
 
From the times article.

“When I hear people espousing free government-paid college, free
government-paid health care and a free government job for everyone
— on top of a $21 trillion debt — the question is, how are we paying for
all this and not bankrupting the country?” Mr. Schultz said.

“It’s as big of a false narrative as the wall,” he added. “Doesn’t someone
have to speak the truth about what we can afford while maintaining a deep
level of compassion and empathy for the American people?”
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But in the Six Minutes interview has said.

Scott Pelley: The 2018 tax cut.

Howard Schultz: I would not have given a free ride to business, from
35 percent or 37 percent to 21 percent. It would've been more modest.
But I would've significantly addressed the people who need tax relief
the most, which is the people I talked about earlier, who don't have $400
in the bank.
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Seriously?

I don’t feel he’s explored the issue much.

Based on the interview, I'll give him a C minus.
 
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Never mind Baby Hitler and Baby Trump. Baby Schultz!

I'm pleased to be unambiguously on record about the swill he's served that now funds this ego trip, so that nobody doubts my motives. Blech!

The thing is, if it isn't Schultz then some other ego-tripper will do it. And if 2016 taught me anything, it's that dimwits on the left are indeed clueless dimwits, unable to recognize a clear and present danger when it stares them in the face.

I swear, if the day comes that space aliens invade the earth, and the people of the world must come together to rebuff them, just say hello to our new masters and hope we're not on the menu.
 
Why can't rich people just be content to live in luxury and enjoy their wealth? Why must so many of them decide to pursue power as well? If I were a billionaire I'd be living it up, not trying to acquire enormous responsibilities!
 
TragicMonkey said:
Why can't rich people just be content to live in luxury and enjoy their wealth? Why must so many of them decide to pursue power as well? If I were a billionaire I'd be living it up, not trying to acquire enormous responsibilities!
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As far as I can tell, there's two ways to get rich. One of those two ways is to go out there and Do Stuff. The satisfaction comes from the activities that produce the wealth, or power, or whatever. The kind of person who's ready to sit back and enjoy their wealth are typically not the kind of people who are motivated to acquire that wealth in the first place. And the kind of people that are motivated to acquire such wealth are not typically the kind of people that can really sit back and relax the way you or I might dream of doing. The effort and experience of going out there and getting something done is their satisfaction.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Why can't rich people just be content to live in luxury and enjoy their wealth? Why must so many of them decide to pursue power as well? If I were a billionaire I'd be living it up, not trying to acquire enormous responsibilities!
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Most are. But to those seeking power It's the ultimate rush. They get to control the lives of others both positively and negatively. All of a sudden, everyone is calling you requesting this or that. They host parties for you and give you money. Nothing like attention and adulation to give you a hard-on

But as I said, Schultz couldn't win the city of Seattle where he founded and where Starbucks is headquartered. Half his employees hate him and the other half simply tolerate him. Sports fan despise him because he is the reason the NBA basketball team Sonics now plays in OKC and not Seattle. Hes floated the idea of running before with little success.
 
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I guess it's like how so many actors imagine they can direct, so many business people think they could preside.
 
acbytesla said:
I think Shultz is delusional. He's not very charismatic and not even popular in his home state of Washington. In fact, he's a bit of a pariah in Seattle.
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To expand on the pariah part, he bought the SuperSonics basketball team not long after they'd had the Seattle Center Colosseum remodeled to their exact specs, which not incidentally made it unsuitable for the NHL, then complained about the arena and wanted the taxpayers to improve it for him again. When turned down he sold the team to some guys form Oklahoma who never had the slightest intention of doing anything but move it. He then claimed to be surprised they moved it; that he never thought they would do such a thing. If true, he's the only person in the state who thought that. He's either stupid or a liar.
 
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To expand on the pariah part, he bought the SuperSonics basketball team not long after they'd had the Seattle Center Colosseum remodeled to their exact specs, which not incidentally made it unsuitable for the NHL, then complained about the arena and wanted the taxpayers to improve it for him again. When turned down he sold the team to some guys form Oklahoma who never had the slightest intention of doing anything but move it. He then claimed to be surprised they moved it; that he never thought they would do such a thing. If true, he's the only person in the state who thought that. He's either stupid or a liar.
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Or?
 
Trebuchet said:
To expand on the pariah part, he bought the SuperSonics basketball team not long after they'd had the Seattle Center Colosseum remodeled to their exact specs, which not incidentally made it unsuitable for the NHL, then complained about the arena and wanted the taxpayers to improve it for him again. When turned down he sold the team to some guys form Oklahoma who never had the slightest intention of doing anything but move it. He then claimed to be surprised they moved it; that he never thought they would do such a thing. If true, he's the only person in the state who thought that. He's either stupid or a liar.
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Exactly. On the local sports talk radio show KJR, Howard is easily the most bashed person in the State.
 
He should stick to selling Coffee.
I admit, right now I have a deep prejudice against ANY wealthy businessman with no experience in politics or government becoming President;look at how it has turned out...
 
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