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How to test a conspiracy theory

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I originally posted this to the thread I started to promote the Moon Hoax talk I did a couple of weeks ago. But I thought the tests would be more use on the Conspiracy Theories section of the board.

Anyway, in the talk, I presented ten tests which people can apply to conspiracy theories.

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Questions to test conspiracy theories

Test 1: Is the argument factually correct?


It’s remarkable how many conspiracy theories are based on arguments which are simply factually incorrect. If you’re presented with a conspiracy theory argument, the first thing to do is to check the surrounding facts. Many incorrect arguments are repeated in ignorance. But it’s also been my unhappy experience that there are some purveyors of conspiracy theories who knowingly repeat arguments they know are incorrect.

Test 2: Is the argument relevant to the theory?

A second common problem with conspiracy theories is that they cloud the issue by attaching true, but irrelevant, arguments. Just because an argument is true doesn’t mean it’s relevant to the theory you’re testing. This is a form of guilt by association, and gives the impression that the theory is being padded.

Test 3: If the argument is true, what implications does it have in other areas?

An argument on its own may appear to be plausible. But if we apply the argument to related fields or subjects, does it continue to make sense? Or would it require the world to be very different from how we see it?

Test 4: Is the argument consistent with other arguments used to support the theory?

There’s a temptation to judge a theory simply by the number of supporting arguments, regardless of how they interact with each other. But amongst all these arguments, there’s the danger that two or more of them contradict each other. This immediately means that at least one of the arguments is wrong, but in the context of conspiracy theories, it’s perhaps worthwhile doubting both.

Test 5: What do relevant experts say about a particular argument?

Conspiracy theorists often tout their apparent expertise with a body of knowledge in order to bolster their arguments. But, perversely, they also often decry other experts in the field. This is often because the expert consensus in that field is contrary to the argument presented. Similarly, they often quote experts speaking inaccurately outside their field of expertise.

Test 6: Is there actually an argument in the argument, or is it just an opinion?

An argument which merely expresses an opinion, but which doesn’t have any supporting evidence, adds nothing to the theory, and should be ignored.

Test 7: Does the argument offer any supporting evidence?

Some arguments are presented with weasel words such as “could have” or “maybe”. Without any supporting evidence, these aren’t arguments – they’re just speculation. They too should be ignored.

Test 8: Is the explanation provided by an argument the only possible explanation for the evidence?

There are cases when an argument presents two alternative explanations for an event. One is the conspiracy explanation, while the other is said to be the official explanation. When the official explanation is debunked, the conspiracy explanation appears to be correct by default. Problems arise, though, when the apparently official explanation turns out to be a straw-man misrepresentation of the official explanation.

Test 9: How does the argument deal with positive arguments which contradict it?

Theories aren’t built out of opposition to other theories. Instead, they’re created to better explain the evidence than previous theories. Therefore, any conspiracy theory has to address evidence which contradicts it. Ignoring the evidence isn’t acceptable, and should be treated as a major weakness of the theory.

Test 10: Would an experiment of your own help shed light on an argument?

Some conspiracy arguments rely on you accepting them without question, perhaps by an appeal to common sense. Sadly, common sense can lead us astray. This is where simple experiments, or even just careful observation of the world around us, can provide useful insights into the accuracy of an argument.

Conclusion: Is the conspiracy theory a coherent theory?

A problem with many conspiracy theories is that they exist only as a challenge to the official version of events. Yet if the conspiracy theory is true, a series of events must have occurred to bring the conspiracy to fruition. However, many conspiracy theorists aren’t willing to spell out exactly how they think the conspiracy was achieved. This appears to be a tacit acceptance that their arguments don’t add up to a coherent theory. What they often have, instead, is an ad hoc collection of arguments which, if put together, create an implausible, self-contradictory and ad hoc narrative.
 
I'd add another point:

Does the conspiracy even make sense to the person presenting it?

You wouldn't believe how many twoofers are at a loss to explain their own theories.

That's why some claim to want a new investigation: to figure out what all their "evidence" actually adds up to, cuz they haven't a clue,
 
Look, when you have a belief in some supranatural group or entity controlling what you perceive to be the world, rational analysis of your conspiracy theory doesn't matter a jot.

If you believe in a NWO/Illuminati/Reptoid/Zionist plot to rule the world and decimate the population in order to conserve resources for yourself and your offspring, then ANYTHING is possible :D
 
Look, when you have a belief in some supranatural group or entity controlling what you perceive to be the world, rational analysis of your conspiracy theory doesn't matter a jot.

If you believe in a NWO/Illuminati/Reptoid/Zionist plot to rule the world and decimate the population in order to conserve resources for yourself and your offspring, then ANYTHING is possible :D

I have witnessed this first hand with old friends telling me I needed to 'unlearn the reality that I had been shown' which aparently was wrong.
 
Look, when you have a belief in some supranatural group or entity controlling what you perceive to be the world, rational analysis of your conspiracy theory doesn't matter a jot.

If you believe in a NWO/Illuminati/Reptoid/Zionist plot to rule the world and decimate the population in order to conserve resources for yourself and your offspring, then ANYTHING is possible :D

Maybe, but not everyone who hears a conspiracy theory is necessarily convinced it's true. The problem, though, is that people don't have the means to find the faults in the theory, and may also be overwhelmed by specious technical arguments used by the conspiracy theorists.

What I wanted to show in my talk was that you don't necessarily need to be a technical expert in order to dissect a conspiracy theory. Instead, these questions, plus some reasonable research, will often allow you to determine the reliability of a particular conspiracy theory.
 
Interesting!

The obvious conspiracy theory to test is, of course, the Dubya adm's silly story. The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan.

This is exactly what we 911 truthers have been doing for years now. While you gullible guys choose not to. Instead you attack us for doing our duties as citizens.
 
The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan.


I don't think I've ever seen a simple sentence with so many errors in it...

-Gumboot
 
Pagan do you ever NOT use emotional rhetoric instead of rational discussion in response to objections to your theories?
 
Interesting!

The obvious conspiracy theory to test is, of course, the Dubya adm's silly story.

It was not "Dubya's adm's" story nor was it "silly."

The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads...

You got something against cokeheads? They are just as capable of conducting a suicide attack as anyone. In fact some evidence indicates they are the ideal individuals to do such a thing.

directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan.

There is no evidence Bin Laden was in a cave on 9/11 nor anytime prior to the start of Operation Enduring Freedom.
 
It was not "Dubya's adm's" story nor was it "silly."



You got something against cokeheads? They are just as capable of conducting a suicide attack as anyone. In fact some evidence indicates they are the ideal individuals to do such a thing.

There is no evidence Bin Laden was in a cave on 9/11 nor anytime prior to the start of Operation Enduring Freedom.



Not to mention there's nothing to indicate any of the 9/11 hijackers were "cokeheads" and Osama Bin Laden himself has outright denied he has ever needed medical treatment for his kidneys.

Oh, and Pagan spelled "Afghanistan" wrong...:p

-Gumboot
 
Yeah but to be fair to Pagan, he did get the number right.

And the religion.

2 out of 5

Must do better.
 
Not to mention there's nothing to indicate any of the 9/11 hijackers were "cokeheads" and Osama Bin Laden himself has outright denied he has ever needed medical treatment for his kidneys.

Illustrating that it was inconsequential whether or not they were "cokeheads" was my goal. But you are right the evidence for it is not really there. As for Bin Laden. . . well at least he didn't claim he was a CIA operative.

Oh, and Pagan spelled "Afghanistan" wrong...:p

-Gumboot

As a sufferer of dyslexia I usually won't harp on other peoples spelling foibles.
 
Interesting!

The obvious conspiracy theory to test is, of course, the Dubya adm's silly story. The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan.

This is exactly what we 911 truthers have been doing for years now. While you gullible guys choose not to. Instead you attack us for doing our duties as citizens.
These '19 Muslim cokeheads' had university and post graduate education, something that the great majority of 9/11 truthers lack.
 
Interesting!

The obvious conspiracy theory to test is, of course, the Dubya adm's silly story. The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan.

This is exactly what we 911 truthers have been doing for years now. While you gullible guys choose not to. Instead you attack us for doing our duties as citizens.

Uhm.. They a) weren't on drugs, and have postgraduate educations
b) Osama bin Laden is most likely in Pakistan, and is not a kidney patient.

C) Your testing the facts keeps going. Somehow, you've not come up with a coherent alternative or a fact to come up with your side that's applied wrong, wrong, or understood incorrectly..

D) So, I'll see you in front of Congress protesting various manifest injustices? Sending your evidence to the officals? Having an investigation? :boxedin:
 
It was not "Dubya's adm's" story nor was it "silly."



You got something against cokeheads? They are just as capable of conducting a suicide attack as anyone. In fact some evidence indicates they are the ideal individuals to do such a thing.



There is no evidence Bin Laden was in a cave on 9/11 nor anytime prior to the start of Operation Enduring Freedom.


You guys don't want to remember the Dubya adm's propaganda from almost day 1 after 911?

The reason why I am using the phrase: "The one about the 19 Muslim cokeheads directed by a kidney patient from a cave in Afgahnistan" is because.

The hijackers were described as very religious [SIZE=-1]fanatical Islamists. It turned out they were not. They were partying a lot. Getting drunk, using coke and liked the company of lapdancers.
I remember that one Gov't report stated that they went to Las Vegas many times, but they couldn't figure out why?:eye-poppi

It was also said that Osama was hiding in very high-tec caves in Afghanistan. They never found any of these caves after invading Afgh. They sure looked for them. See the BBC docu: The power of nightmares.
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Pagan- Are you trying to say that you believe an 1 hour documentary on BBC over more then a decade of research by many international researchers and experts on the subject matter? When did Youtube and Google video trump hard research and investigation? Your standards of proof are very very strange.
 

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