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Axxman300
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I can't take your money. The honest truth is that there is probably an A&R Plumbing in every phone book just like there's probably an A&R Vacuum Cleaner Repair or A&R Electronics Repair/Electricians.
It's an oldschool Yellow Pages trick where by naming your business or service with a word staring with the letter "A" or the initial "A" it gets you in the front of the book. My guess is the Z Plumbing guys are probably better.
Those Native guides
I'd dearly love to hear a medium talking Noble Savage. I grew up around Plains Indians, Crows and Cheyennes mostly, and I doubt that their rather German-sounding accents would be accepted in polite spiritualist circles.
I'd dearly love to hear a medium talking Noble Savage. I grew up around Plains Indians, Crows and Cheyennes mostly, and I doubt that their rather German-sounding accents would be accepted in polite spiritualist circles.
JayUtah
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Out here, the Utes and some other nations are still the majority inhabitants of some counties. Most places I go in Shiprock, I'm the only non-Navajo in the place. When you tell these people that some people's idea of their afterlife is where they have to follow some white guy around, they just roll their eyes.
One of Scorpion's preferred sources was Silver Birch, a "red Indian" but later on apparently revealed that was only a "persona" the spirit adopted. I suspect that what happened is that someone knowing something about native americans asked some questions Silver Birch couldn't answer or pointed out there were no "red indians" but rather different, distinct nations and tribes.
wasapi
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"Native American or a little girl"? Really. I didn't realize how uninformed I am on these matters. My spirit guide seems to be mute and has little interest in me.
P.J. Denyer
Penultimate Amazing
I think a lot of the people whose idea of an afterlife is following some white guy around aren't too pleased when told that the white guy, well, wasn't.
When not specified it is assumed European missionary, European icons.
The broader thinking is Jesus was middle Eastern, thus didn't appear as statues in Spanish churches depict him.
(The debate on his actual existence is another thread.)
The broader thinking is Jesus was middle Eastern, thus didn't appear as statues in Spanish churches depict him.
(The debate on his actual existence is another thread.)
Axxman300
Philosopher
It's a big part of the con.
The Medium's butt is covered because they're not the one giving incorrect answers it's their spirit guide. And if the Medium is on a role successfully answering leading questions their reputation grows meaning they can command more money for a reading since their spirit guide is better than the con man across the street.
Not that Ute or Modoc or Iriquois or Digger or Ona or any other superstitions are less daffy than, say, the Immaculate Conception or predestination. But they aren't widely known, and they've been long since sieved through whiteman transmission -- and misunderstanding -- so that a fraudster can easily use them to gull the credulous.
Many Indians today like to disparage "plastic shamans," without admitting that there's really no other kind.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Yes, I've seen that. Speaking with my other hat on, it does a much better job of scaring the pants off people in horror movies than wiggly needles.
As the owner of residential rental property, I'm far more terrified by those things than of ghosts.
I was just at the aquarium in August. Always a magical place. But why are there no good restaurants on Cannery Row? The book What It's Like To Be a Dog goes into some detail on frontiers of neurology research in, among other things, sea mammals. Fascinating.
Also, the USS Enterprise D is the best version of that ship.
It's sort of the Iowa-class-battleship of the Starfleet world.
And you discovered why. They all start from the point of view that something new needs to explain all the things people report. That may not be exactly a predisposition to believe in ghosts, but it's a predisposition to avoid the notion that paranormal phenomenon are more likely to be explained by extension of what we already know, not a wholesale introduction of something entirely new.
Most were the brainchild of individual faculty members whose tenure let them follow whatever oddball theories attracted money from rich donors. When those individuals retired, no one wanted to continue down the rat hole. Rightly so.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Here in Utah they just combine it all into one and say they're the lost tribes of Israel.
Appealing to indigenous beliefs plays on Trail of Tears guilt and avoids the longstanding baggage of Western Christianity and the panoply of Eastern dharmic complexity. It comes across as derived naturally from "the Earth" or whatever, not as a bunch of made-up nonsense.
But now, of course, any sort of cultural appropriation is looked upon with skepticism. I guess all those ethnically interesting spirit guides are all out looking for work.
Axxman300
Philosopher
Rent is steep.
The good restaurants are found on Alvarado Street and on both Wharfs.
MBARI is up in Moss Landing. They have an open house in September and they have free seminars on Wednesdays:
https://www.mbari.org/products/educational-resources/seminars/
Best part about MBARI is that the best seafood place in Monterey County is right next door:
http://philsfishmarket.com/
I live in Marine Science Valhalla.
Blimey, that's uncanny. My Father died a few days ago, and the letters A and R are in both his first and family names.
Furthermore, not only did he sometimes drink water, he was an officer in the US Navy.
Truly, you have a gift.
Second vote for Phil's. So good.
Also, you can rent a kayak nearby and paddle up the Elkhorn Slough, which is really quite nice. They also have guided tours of the slough with biologists to point out all the cool stuff.
I like visiting your neighborhood.
Belz...
Fiend God
I'm not sure first-grader logic is the best way to make a point.
Nay_Sayer
I say nay!
I'll wait till you google what sarcasm is. Don't blame me for you falling for the con and getting all tingly over woo.
Nay_Sayer
I say nay!
Blimey, that's uncanny. My Father died a few days ago, and the letters A and R are in both his first and family names.
Furthermore, not only did he sometimes drink water, he was an officer in the US Navy.
Truly, you have a gift.
I really do, only 50$ an hour
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