How powerful is human immune system?

[ShareCures]

Ah, sorry. I missed that post.



No, just how it can cure allergies. I don't care if it relates to something I have seen or heard about.



The problem is that they actually didn't cure these diseases. Even if they did, it shouldn't affect True Cures' results in the slightest, as your site states that True Cures is entirely separate from the rest of alternative medicine.



Or that alternative medicine is bunk.



Then can you prove this?



Applied kinesiology is also unproven, though. But I'm willing to disregard that.



I can tell you already that there is. This isn't something that you would be getting from a doctor, either. Even if I hadn't been formally diagnosed with asthma attacks brought on by cat dander, it would be fairly obvious, as my airway swells shut immediately after I get cat hair near my face.







How? That's what I've been trying to get you to explain this entire time.

LOL One might think you have been burned by alternative medicine. As I said on my website at one time alternative medicine focused on cures and was very effective. I'm guessing this was before your time. Now that alternative medicine and western medicine have merged both are mostly useless when it comes to cures.

I'm sorry you can't pet your cat without difficulty breathing. I've got two dogs, a cat and a horse. If I were allergic to cats Butters would be totally bummed out. He likes me better than I like him but I haven't told him that.

Medical Applied Kinesiology is fraud 100%. Applied Kinesiology in relation to cures is exactly that, AK in relation to cures.

How do you know if someone's form of AK isn't fraud? It's simple they will offer to help you with a 100% money back guarantee and they will not drag treatment out for more than a month. Anyone saying they need months of treatment and no guarantee is a scam which is the while medical field even western medicine because there are western doctors using AK as well.

KEY POINT. AK outside of True Cures is fraudulent but in reality it doesn't matter when you saw the alternative doctors they probably didn't claim to cure allergies.

I don't have to use AK but it can be helpful and I usually do because that is the only way to confirm treatment was relayed.

In a nut shell I will tell your body to adjust and correct your autoimmune. I will confirm with AK that your subconscious received the command and you will avoid carbs and sugars while your subconscious goes to work reprogramming your body back to factory default setting.

So I communicate a command to your body that is not verbal. It is the exact same command you should be commanding right now if you knew how and the command is almost exactly the same as sending a command to type a response to this. Don't let the fools here convince you that you can't dictate your immune response.

Once your body starts making the adjustment to the autoimmune you will require a week or two for the repairs to take place. When you are done you are no longer allergic to cats and you no longer have asthma just like anyone else who does not have autoimmune diseases which is getting very rare these days.

Now it sounds like you have parent who need to be involved with your cure. Your work is cut out for you. If your parents wanted I could give them the number of an alternative school where I have spoken on several occasions on health and healing because I helped one of the students cure IBS irritable bowel syndrome.

I'm sorry it can't be explained any better than that. You can see what cures are up against here.

 

[Trent Wray]

Okay so why didn't you just say the core of your teachings are based through hypnosis?

 

[Robo Sapien]

LOL One might think you have been burned by alternative medicine. As I said on my website at one time alternative medicine focused on cures and was very effective. I'm guessing this was before your time. Now that alternative medicine and western medicine have merged both are mostly useless when it comes to cures.

Everyone gets burned by alt med, when they prove to themselves that it doesn't work. That is, unless somebody like you convinces them that it is their fault the treatment failed, and they keep digging deeper in.

 

[Nonpareil]

LOL One might think you have been burned by alternative medicine.

No. I've never used alternative medicine, as the other kind has sufficed perfectly well so far.

Medical Applied Kinesiology is fraud 100%. Applied Kinesiology in relation to cures is exactly that, AK in relation to cures.

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, no buts about it.

In a nut shell I will tell your body to adjust and correct your autoimmune. I will confirm with AK that your subconscious received the command and you will avoid carbs and sugars while your subconscious goes to work reprogramming your body back to factory default setting.

So I communicate a command to your body that is not verbal. It is the exact same command you should be commanding right now if you knew how and the command is almost exactly the same as sending a command to type a response to this.

So diet and hypnosis. Is that right? Probably not a good idea for me to avoid carbs and sugars, though, seeing as I'm 6'2" and 120lbs.

Now it sounds like you have parent who need to be involved with your cure.

No. I just don't have a car. It wouldn't hurt if the rest of my family were notified of this, and they probably will be if we ever do it, but it isn't strictly necessary.

 

[Mister Earl]

LOL One might think you have been burned by alternative medicine.

Like you're trying to? Or burn a different way?

As I said on my website at one time alternative medicine focused on cures and was very effective.

What time was that? Twelve thirty?

I'm guessing this was before your time.

When's your time?

Now that alternative medicine and western medicine have merged both are mostly useless when it comes to cures.

I don't hear much about polio these days. Hrm.

I'm sorry you can't pet your cat without difficulty breathing.

Yeah, how hard are you petting that cat, anyway? Ease up a bit!

I've got two dogs, a cat and a horse. If I were allergic to cats Butters would be totally bummed out. He likes me better than I like him but I haven't told him that.

I told you he was hard-core.

Medical Applied Kinesiology is fraud 100%. Applied Kinesiology in relation to cures is exactly that, AK in relation to cures.

Do you really think someone attempting to commit medical fraud should be talking about fraud?

How do you know if someone's form of AK isn't fraud? It's simple they will offer to help you with a 100% money back guarantee and they will not drag treatment out for more than a month.

So if they die, all they gotta do is show up, and you'll refund their money?

Anyone saying they need months of treatment and no guarantee is a scam which is the while medical field even western medicine because there are western doctors using AK as well.

And I say anyone offering to give medical advice and practice medicine, regardless of how laughably bogus it is, should go to jail.

KEY POINT.

Is key point in key west?

AK outside of True Cures is fraudulent but in reality it doesn't matter when you saw the alternative doctors they probably didn't claim to cure allergies.

He went to see an alternative doctor? Are you adding claims of mind-reading or remote-viewing to your bogus medical claims?

I don't have to use AK but it can be helpful and I usually do because that is the only way to confirm treatment was relayed.

Relayed from where?

In a nut shell

Your words, not mine.

I will tell your body to adjust and correct your autoimmune. I will confirm with AK that your subconscious received the command and you will avoid carbs and sugars while your subconscious goes to work reprogramming your body back to factory default setting.

What if they never signed the warranty card? Does the factory still need to be in business?

So I communicate a command to your body that is not verbal. It is the exact same command you should be commanding right now if you knew how and the command is almost exactly the same as sending a command to type a response to this.

Can you count to potato?

Don't let the fools here convince you that you can't dictate your immune response.

For some reason, I get a mental picture of glass houses.

Once your body starts making the adjustment to the autoimmune you will require a week or two for the repairs to take place.

Define for me "The autoimmune"

When you are done you are no longer allergic to cats and you no longer have asthma just like anyone else who does not have autoimmune diseases which is getting very rare these days.

Is an autoimmune disease having something to do with "The autoimmune"? Is it the same one, or a different "The autoimmune"?

Now it sounds like you have parent who need to be involved with your cure. Your work is cut out for you. If your parents wanted I could give them the number of an alternative school where I have spoken on several occasions on health and healing because I helped one of the students cure IBS irritable bowel syndrome.

Which school, and when? I'd love to contact them and confirm that.

I'm sorry it can't be explained any better than that. You can see what cures are up against here.

Considering you've invented everything you're claiming so far, you might as well make up something to explain it. That way it's seamless.

 

[Rolfe]

Clearly I know more about livestock than you do. I also know more about veterinarian medicine than you. For your information a reasonably responsible farmer or rancher can and most often do keep their herds disease free with medicine that could be used to keep humans disease free as well. Very few farmers or ranchers take their livestock to the vet. If one gets sick they take it to the auction and get pennies on the dollar for it. THAT IS WHY livestock is for all practical purposes free of disease. There is no money in diseased livestock. Farmers and ranchers will shoot a cow before they give it insulin every day.

Dearie me. The threads you don't notice because someone started them in the section devoted to the paranormal, rather than the section devoted to medicine. And it grew so fast, too! Should I read all these pages now?

I was going to ask where ShareCures went to vet school, but I have this sneaky suspicion I might not get a good answer.

Very few farmers take livestock to the vet because livestock are large. That's why vets almost always do home visits for livestock. They do it all the time. Because there's no money in diseased livestock, farmers know it's cost-effective to invest in the best treatment and prevention. Destroying an animal is a bit of a last resort, because there's definitely no money in a carcass you have to pay money to have taken away. And you can't sell sick animals at auction where I come from. It's illegal.

Nevertheless, livestock cannot be said to be free of disease, for practical purposes or not. Disease surveillance demonstrates the incidence and prevalence of quite a lot of things.

A fair proportion of farm animal medicine is preventative of course, and the best preventative medicine is disease eradication. That's why we don't have animals sick with brucellosis and swine fever and FMD and rinderpest and a whole lot of other things these days.

I never heard of a diabetic cow. Ever. Horses, yes, and these will be treated (though not with insulin). Never ever heard of a recorded bovine case of diabetes mellitus.

I think ShareCures is making stuff up,

Rolfe.

 

[ShareCures]

No. I've never used alternative medicine, as the other kind has sufficed perfectly well so far.





If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, no buts about it.



So diet and hypnosis. Is that right? Probably not a good idea for me to avoid carbs and sugars, though, seeing as I'm 6'2" and 120lbs.



No. I just don't have a car. It wouldn't hurt if the rest of my family were notified of this, and they probably will be if we ever do it, but it isn't strictly necessary.

Now I am confused. You have not tried alternative medicine but you have strong opinion of it. You use western medicine "the other kind" and it has been "sufficed perfectly well so far."

Did I say hypnoses? How long did I say diet?

What do you want from me? Do you want me to wave a magic wand?

If I used hypnoses I would say I use hypnoses. What I use does not have a name. What I use is not familiar to you or the dimwits here suggesting to you that it is hypnoses.

Let me tell you what it is and why you have no understanding of it. True Cures is a cure for all diseases even all diseases said to be "incurable". AS SUCH IT WILL BE COMPLETELY UNFAMILIAR TO YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN CURED OF A DISEASE SAID TO BE INCURABLE.

Have any of you been cured of a disease said to be incurable? NO? Well I guess that explains why you have never found or known any real or True Cures.

Hypnosis is for fools who want to quit smoking. True Cures does cure addictions but neither does hypnosis.

 

[ShareCures]

Dearie me. The threads you don't notice because someone started them in the section devoted to the paranormal, rather than the section devoted to medicine. And it grew so fast, too! Should I read all these pages now?

I was going to ask where ShareCures went to vet school, but I have this sneaky suspicion I might not get a good answer.

Very few farmers take livestock to the vet because livestock are large. That's why vets almost always do home visits for livestock. They do it all the time. Because there's no money in diseased livestock, farmers know it's cost-effective to invest in the best treatment and prevention. Destroying an animal is a bit of a last resort, because there's definitely no money in a carcass you have to pay money to have taken away. And you can't sell sick animals at auction where I come from. It's illegal.

Nevertheless, livestock cannot be said to be free of disease, for practical purposes or not. Disease surveillance demonstrates the incidence and prevalence of quite a lot of things.

A fair proportion of farm animal medicine is preventative of course, and the best preventative medicine is disease eradication. That's why we don't have animals sick with brucellosis and swine fever and FMD and rinderpest and a whole lot of other things these days.

I never heard of a diabetic cow. Ever. Horses, yes, and these will be treated (though not with insulin). Never ever heard of a recorded bovine case of diabetes mellitus.

I think ShareCures is making stuff up,

Rolfe.

Thanks Rolfe had your read my thread you would know that you have confirmed my points with utmost precision. No I am not a vet but it is funny how you just repeated what I have been telling the pitiful lost souls here.

I for the most part worship the ground you walk on. You my friend make a real difference to bad it is limited to cattle and livestock. Keep up the good work.

 

[TraneWreck]

Thanks Rolfe had your read my thread you would know that you have confirmed my points with utmost precision. No I am not a vet but it is funny how you just repeated what I have been telling the pitiful lost souls here.

I for the most part worship the ground you walk on. You my friend make a real difference to bad it is limited to cattle and livestock. Keep up the good work.

Your best work yet.

You just jumped from a 6.2 to a 7.9 on the unintentional comedy scale.

0=Lincoln Assassination, 10=Shatner's Rocket Man.

 

[Rolfe]

Find me an 80 year old vet and they will agree with me 100%.

Carl Boyd. Want to put money on what he'll say? (Hint. Don't wager what you can't afford to lose.)
Does a 77-year-old vet count? In that case George Tribe. (For the newbies, he's the founder of the BVVS.) I can't wait to hear his reaction - he can be pretty sarcastic when dealing with woos.
John Bleby.

Find me a rancher and a farmer and they will agree with me 100%.

Farmers? Any of our clients you like. You'll be laughed out of court, boy.

For many years ranchers kept their dogs disease free with same vaccinations used on their livestock. It's getting trickier because the old school vets are dying off.

What, you think you can prevent canine diseases like distemper and Rubarth's disease with vaccines against cattle diseases like IBR and BVD?

That's a good one!



Rolfe.

 

[ShareCures]

I thought it was nice of Rolfe to confirm my points. I don't see how it was comedic at all. Maybe this is all over your head. Keep reading and you might get it figured out.

I will reiterate. Preventative medicine and medicine that cures is extremely common in the treatment of livestock. Farmers and ranchers do most of the medicating because they can and it is a lot cheaper than having Rolfe to come out and do it for them.

As Rolfe says a sick livestock has no value so preventive medicine and cures are profitable. Because people have a love for house pets and horses they are allowed to be diabetic because their owners will pay for treatment.

 

[Mister Earl]

Because people have a love for house pets and horses they are allowed to be diabetic because their owners will pay for treatment.

So... if I'm following you, here... if I pay for treatment for house pets and horses, I can be diabetic too?

 

[ShareCures]

Carl Boyd. Want to put money on what he'll say? (Hint. Don't wager what you can't afford to lose.)
Does a 77-year-old vet count? In that case George Tribe. (For the newbies, he's the founder of the BVVS.) I can't wait to hear his reaction - he can be pretty sarcastic when dealing with woos.
John Bleby.




Farmers? Any of our clients you like. You'll be laughed out of court, boy.




What, you think you can prevent canine diseases like distemper and Rubarth's disease with vaccines against cattle diseases like IBR and BVD?

That's a good one!



Rolfe.

Rolfe,

I'm not sure what is so funny, the more you share the more you are repeating what I have already said.

I tell you what, see if you can find anything I have said that you disagree with and lets start from there. So far you have reiterated everything I have shared and for that I thank you for being forthright. Be careful though. My local clients are farmer and ranchers and they are testimonies on my website who would dot someone eyes and cross their tees for talking unfavorably about me. I have peers too.

Anyway what if anything have I shared that needs to be corrected?

 

[Rolfe]

NO THEY DO NOT GET THEIR MEDS FROM A VET! They get their meds from farmer supply stores and no they do not take livestock to the vets. If they can't here from the supplies from the farmers supply store they take it to the auction.

Rubbish. And more rubbish. And complete rubbish.

There is a huge industry producing prescription-only livestock medicines. Which can only be obtained through a veterinary surgeon. There are laws about this.

There are a huge number of veterinary surgeons who specialise entirely in farm animal medicine. The lab where I work is dedicated to diagnosing livestock disease so it can be treated and prevented. We have farmers coming in every day for veterinary advice about disease problems - advice that usually leads to medication which by law can only be supplied on a veterinary prescription. More often than not, these medications are actually bought from the vet.

Vets are for household pets and horse because because they are not vaccinated properly and with horses they are accident prone and are extremely fragile.

Not true. There are more vaccines available for pets than for livestock. And livestock get sick and need vets a lot. It's just that the spectrum of disease is different because most farm animals reach the end of their productive lives before they begin to develop the diseases of old age.

Now before you question me you get on your phone and call your local co-op or ranchers supply store like D&B or Tractor Supply Stores and see what they have and tell you.

You aren't going to cure a thing if you only want to argue.

Of course there are agricultural supplies merchants who stock the basic stuff the law allows them to sell. You need to find out about the market for prescription-only veterinary medicines. It's huge. And I'm talking about the livestock sector. Antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anthelmintics, vaccines, it's huge. Pharmaceutical companies don't produce that stuff for nobody to buy or use it. And they can only get it from their vet. And the vet has to see the animal and diagnose the disease before he'll prescribe anything.

You're making this up as you go along.

Rolfe.

 

[Nonpareil]

Now I am confused. You have not tried alternative medicine but you have strong opinion of it.

Yes, because I have a (not inconsiderable) knowledge of science, and therefore know that water doesn't magically retain patters, and solutions don't become stronger when you dilute them.

You use western medicine "the other kind" and it has been "sufficed perfectly well so far."

Yes.

Did I say hypnoses?

No, you didn't. You said that you would "communicate a command to your body that is not verbal". I summarized with "hypnosis" simply because I couldn't think of a better way to put it - and because it gave me an entertaining mental image.

How long did I say diet?

You didn't specify, and I don't particularly care. I was just being silly.

What do you want from me? Do you want me to wave a magic wand?

No. A basic explanation of how it works and letting me test it for myself would work just fine.

 

[Rolfe]

You might be surprised at what the vets might agree with. You see, vets are the closest thing you have to a cure for incurable diseases other than True Cures.

However it is illegal for them to treat you, otherwise they could cure you but so can a rancher or farmer.

That's hilarious. The Veterinary Surgeons Act (1966) prohibits anyone who isn't a vet from diagnosing or treating disease in an animal. There's no equivalent the other way. Anybody can diagnose and treat disease in a human being. That's why there are so many quacks.

It's only recently it's been ruled to be professional misconduct to treat a human patient with medication obtained on a veterinary prescription. Anything else - we can do it. I wouldn't necessarily recommend you take my advice, but it's not illegal for me to treat you so long as I obey the laws about prescription-only medicines.

You're making this up as you go along.

Rolfe.

 

[Sun Countess]

A testimonial from the website:

"David Flowers had been telling me for sometime that he could cure my allergies and I didn’t give it much credit until he more or less cornered me and said he was going to pull on my arm. I didn’t believe any of it, don’t know what I believe now but mowing the grass this summer was a lot easier on me than what it was before David pulled on my arm. Before David it was watery red eyes and a running nose for sure after cutting the grass. Now nothing. I don’t understand it, don’t really care too. I’m not joining his cause just giving him credit for whatever happened.

I give David permission to use this anyway he sees fit."

Do the highlighted portions give away your techniques? Pulling arms, pulling legs, they're all just limbs...

ShareCures, can I get your non-college-educated opinion on whether my cat died of cancer because his mother didn't teach him to harness the powers of his immune system, or because I somehow allowed it by being brainwashed into believing that cancer is not a fungus?

Also, did you write all the testimonials on your website, or does everyone in Payette Idaho just sound alike and make similar spelling and grammar mistakes? If those are real testimonials, I look forward to reading about all the doctors and hospitals in Payette Idaho going out of business. I'm sure that'll be any day now...

 

[Rolfe]

I'm willing to drop the "where do farmers get their medicine" bit, because it doesn't matter in the slightest.

Well I'm not dropping it because he's talking rubbish.

Rolfe.

 

[Rolfe]

Here we go again. No they do not. Ranchers and farmers are not trained or taught by veterinarians. They are taught by the ranchers and farmer before them and what they cannot remember they can get from the labels of the products from the supply store. You are barking up the wrong tree and showing exactly how duped you are.

Absolute nonsense. The education of the farming community is a major part of the veterinary porfessions' undertakings. Hey, you know what? I'm a vet. I work for an agricultural college. I teach animal disease and diagnostics, and animal health and welfare, to, wait for it, agricultural students.

The most vital veterinary medicines are prescription-only, and can only be obtained from a vet. The agricultural merchants only sell the basic wormers and stuff like that.

You may thing this is irrelevant but it isn't. Everything I have told you in regards to the treatment of livestock is spot on and any vet 70 or 80 or 60 or 40 years old will agree that ranchers and farmers do an exceptional job keeping their herds healthy.

OK, that's me. I'm a vet. I'm 56 years old. You have no idea at all what you're talking about. You're making it up as you go along.

Rolfe.

 

[Nonpareil]

Well I'm not dropping it because he's talking rubbish.

Rolfe.

Well, have fun then!