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How powerful is human immune system?

Do you think the body can cure itself of incurable diseases?

  • yes

    Votes: 8 5.7%
  • no

    Votes: 133 94.3%

  • Total voters
    141
Wreck you couldn't win a game of thumbsies with yourself.

Does anyone have a medical fact that can hold up in a court of law as fact?
 
Wreck you couldn't win a game of thumbsies with yourself.

Does anyone have a medical fact that can hold up in a court of law as fact?

Sour grapes. I smoked your stupid game.

I'm a lawyer, by the way, so my fact would stand up in a court of law.

I win, you lose. I guess you don't have a cure for getting you ass handed to you on the internet.
 
Cancer is genetic, hell my cousin is an oncologist and he would never say cancer is genetic. He will say you can get cancer from smoking or working with asbestos or all the other BS.

Cancer is however passed from one person to another because cancer is a pathogenic disease like ALL diseases and all pathogens can be passed from one person to another and as such will appear to be "genetic" to the foolish mindless consumers.

Don't take my word for it, put me on the stand I will force my cousin to admit that cancer cannot be proved to be genetic and tell the FDA I said so.

Anyone have a medical fact that can't be easily disputed? Now we are having fun.
See how easy disputing is? Any fool can do it. You are an expert at it.

Oh, and...

I'll take confuses "genetic" with "inherited" for $2000 Alex.

Newsflash: all cancers are genetic abnormalities, no matter what the cause.

But you're going to dispute that, aren't you? Let's call you...dun dun dun...THE DISPUTER.
 
Sour grapes. I smoked your stupid game.

I'm a lawyer, by the way, so my fact would stand up in a court of law.

I win, you lose. I guess you don't have a cure for getting you ass handed to you on the internet.

Would you be willing to repost your so-called fact. I'm sure it is as factual as your lawyer statement. Go ahead and show us your fact again. :rolleyes:
 
Your poll is flawed. You haven't asked whether incurable diseases exist or not. You asked if an incurable disease (therefore accepting in the poll question the existance of said disease) can be cured. Many people have probably voted based on the logic alone. You're asking if x can not be x - this is nonsensical.

Perhaps you should have asked "can the body cure itself of allegedly/supposedly/traditionally/etc incurable diseases? Attempting to draw conclusions about us based on the results of a loaded and flawed poll and attacking that position is the defination of a strawman. You're attacking a position that doesn't exist.

Btw, if science were to tell me that cockroaches were superior to us in the specific instance of immunity to disease etc - then whether or not this fact is upsetting to me or my worldview is irrelevant. Just because I don't want to live in a world without unicorns isn't an argument for the reality or lack-there-of of unicorns.
 
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Diseases are nothing but names. If you go to three different doctors you will likely get three different names. Cures have nothing to do with medicine or the names medicine uses. What exactly is your problem. If you junk isn't working because you destroyed with medicine or brutal trauma it more than likely is easily cured.

I guess you have a vested interest in learning the truth. If you are to cure your problem it stand to reason that you must first find the truth.

I'm not interested in googling diseases. If you would like to tell me in laymen term YOUR idea of what is going on I will give you my opinion and my opinion will be better than three doctors.



I apologize, Mr. Flowers sir, I did not intend to make you waste your time googling, or even clicking the link that I provided. Peyronie's Disease is a problem with the connective tissue in the penis that causes an abormal curvature. To date, western medicine has yet to produce a cure and as a result I am unable to find a date that will not throw herself out of the window when my pants come off, which has been a problem in itself seeing as I live on the 4th floor of my building. I am running out of time as well, as I've continued shouting at my penis this whole time and I am starting to sound like Sylvia Browne. Please help.
 
See how easy disputing is? Any fool can do it. You are an expert at it.

Oh, and...

I'll take confuses "genetic" with "inherited" for $2000 Alex.

Newsflash: all cancers are genetic abnormalities, no matter what the cause.

But you're going to dispute that, aren't you? Let's call you...dun dun dun...THE DISPUTER.

There you go. I say you cannot prove a word of your claim and you cannot cure what you call cancer either so whoopdy doo for you.

My point is very well made, there is no such thing as medical facts. Even a doctor on the stand will concede that your claim here is nothing more than opinion and that is a fact.
 
Would you be willing to repost your so-called fact. I'm sure it is as factual as your lawyer statement. Go ahead and show us your fact again. :rolleyes:

Sure, humans have organs.

Medical fact. No one could possibly medically treat a human without first understanding that fact. It's really easy to test as well. Look at another human. They have skin! That's an organ!

I win again.
 
There you go. I say you cannot prove a word of your claim and you cannot cure what you call cancer either so whoopdy doo for you.

Of course you say that. You are...dun dun dun...THE DISPUTER.

My point is very well made, there is no such thing as medical facts. Even a doctor on the stand will concede that your claim here is nothing more than opinion and that is a fact.
It isn't surprising that you are just as ignorant about legal terms such as fact and opinion as you are about everything medical.

Do you have any competencies? Besides Internet trolling, I mean. At which, I must say, you are doing a bang-up job.
 
I apologize, Mr. Flowers sir, I did not intend to make you waste your time googling, or even clicking the link that I provided. Peyronie's Disease is a problem with the connective tissue in the penis that causes an abormal curvature. To date, western medicine has yet to produce a cure and as a result I am unable to find a date that will not throw herself out of the window when my pants come off, which has been a problem in itself seeing as I live on the 4th floor of my building. I am running out of time as well, as I've continued shouting at my penis this whole time and I am starting to sound like Sylvia Browne. Please help.

Admiral Flowers at this point considers 'humans have organs' to be a matter of opinion. He may not be the best person to give advice on your organ. Have you considered dating less picky women?
 
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I apologize, Mr. Flowers sir, I did not intend to make you waste your time googling, or even clicking the link that I provided. Peyronie's Disease is a problem with the connective tissue in the penis that causes an abormal curvature. To date, western medicine has yet to produce a cure and as a result I am unable to find a date that will not throw herself out of the window when my pants come off, which has been a problem in itself seeing as I live on the 4th floor of my building. I am running out of time as well, as I've continued shouting at my penis this whole time and I am starting to sound like Sylvia Browne. Please help.

I'm guessing it is a problem every erection. If so not a good sign. I apologize I should have googled it. You surely agree that fibrous plaques is ridiculously vague. It would take two seconds for science to find out what causes the "fibrous plaques".

The condition can indeed be cured but will the "fibrous plaques" dissolve and allow for a normal erection? I would say your only chance to find out would be by curing the problem and then see. It certainly would be a good idea to cure it before it gets worse.

Also surgery tends to be more of an option when the condition appears to have run its course.

Do you have anything more to add that might shed light on the truth medicine has failed to provide you with?
 
Admiral Flowers at this point considers 'humans have organs' to be a matter of opinion. He may not be the best person to give advice on your organ. Have you dating less picky women?

Papango, YOU KNOW I DID NOT SAY IT IS OPINION THAT PEOPLE HAVE ORGANS YOU DIM WITTED CHILD.

I made it perfectly clear that the fact that humans have organs is not a medical fact any more than ball park franks plump when you cook them is a medical fact.

We knew we had organs LONG BEFORE WE HAD MEDICINE YOU DIM WITTED CHUTE!

I WILL ASK AGAIN, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MEDICAL FACT THAT CAN STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW?
 
Papango, YOU KNOW I DID NOT SAY IT IS OPINION THAT PEOPLE HAVE ORGANS YOU DIM WITTED CHILD.

I made it perfectly clear that the fact that humans have organs is not a medical fact any more than ball park franks plump when you cook them is a medical fact.

We knew we had organs LONG BEFORE WE HAD MEDICINE YOU DIM WITTED CHUTE!

I WILL ASK AGAIN, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MEDICAL FACT THAT CAN STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW?

Whine, whine, whine.

We knew that picking up one apple while you already had two apples meant you ended up with three apples long before we proved the basics of mathematics. That doesn't mean 2+1=3 isn't a mathematical fact. Thus, the existence of organs is still a medical fact.

More failing from you. More winning from me. It's kind of sad.

And by the way, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but courts use DNA evidence every day. DNA is certainly medically relevant, so you've failed twice in one post.

Again, you need to stimulate your immune system to stop you from looking like such a douche on these boards. Maybe someone can pull your finger.

How can you cure anyone if you can't even win an argument on the internet?
 
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I would like to hear you explain why organs have nothing to do with medicine. Why did you spend all that time babbling about the pancreas?

You haven't yet answered TraneWreck's question. I don't think you can. Is the pancreas not medically relevant? Is it not an organ? Is not the fact that humans have organs relevant to any medical treatment they might undergo?
 
I'm guessing it is a problem every erection. If so not a good sign. I apologize I should have googled it. You surely agree that fibrous plaques is ridiculously vague. It would take two seconds for science to find out what causes the "fibrous plaques".

The condition can indeed be cured but will the "fibrous plaques" dissolve and allow for a normal erection? I would say your only chance to find out would be by curing the problem and then see. It certainly would be a good idea to cure it before it gets worse.

Also surgery tends to be more of an option when the condition appears to have run its course.

Do you have anything more to add that might shed light on the truth medicine has failed to provide you with?



Oh, I don't have Peyronie's Disease, it is just bent out of shape from spanking it too much. Those are two separate issues and I was just curious about the disease, but I assumed that you would be able to make that distinction seeing as how we are all idiots for failing to interpret your "alternative grammar."
 
Robo, I should add that breast lumps dissolve 100% of the time with True Cures treatment and it is very likely the vague "fibrous plaques" you have will too. But again theories are useless. The only thing that matters is whether or not you stop the condition and or reverse it.
 
Oh, I don't have Peyronie's Disease, it is just bent out of shape from spanking it too much. Those are two separate issues and I was just curious about the disease, but I assumed that you would be able to make that distinction seeing as how we are all idiots for failing to interpret your "alternative grammar."

That's fine, now you know that fibrous plaques is just as likely as easy to cure as breast lumps. No problem.
 
Papango, YOU KNOW I DID NOT SAY IT IS OPINION THAT PEOPLE HAVE ORGANS YOU DIM WITTED CHILD.


A few posts earlier...


My point is very well made, there is no such thing as medical facts. Even a doctor on the stand will concede that your claim here is nothing more than opinion and that is a fact.


Well that does it, I'm sold. Where do I sign up?
 
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Papango, YOU KNOW I DID NOT SAY IT IS OPINION THAT PEOPLE HAVE ORGANS YOU DIM WITTED CHILD.

I made it perfectly clear that the fact that humans have organs is not a medical fact any more than ball park franks plump when you cook them is a medical fact.

We knew we had organs LONG BEFORE WE HAD MEDICINE YOU DIM WITTED CHUTE!

I WILL ASK AGAIN, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MEDICAL FACT THAT CAN STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW?

Papango and Wreck, only a fool would consider any organ to be "medicine" by default. You can buy pancreas in many super markets. Medicine does not own the right to your glands and organs no matter how brainwashed you are.

Now if you want to tell me that the pancreas fails because of genetics I will call BS and in a court of law I will see to it that a doctor admits that there is no physical proof that the pancreas fails because of genetics because I will prove that any number of things could cause the failure that cannot be rules out.

Again does anyone have a medical fact that will stand up in a court of law?

AND I KNOW THAT THOSE OF YOU KEEPING OUT OF THIS SEE MY POINT. Medicine is not fact or science. It is opinion and marketing and a whole lot of blind faith.
 

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