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How many atheists ?

Evildave,

I fail to be intimidated by emotional pleas. Nazis? Communists? Christian theocracies? The government using census data to do evil things to people based on their religion? Whatever.

You presented no evidence whatsoever each time I asked, so phhhfft!


Just pretend it's all OK, and the government never does anything "bad". It's OK. They're your BEST friends. Pay them extra on your taxes this year to show them how you feel. They're taking out loans that will impoverish your grandchildren, but it's all fine. Politics isn't anybody's business at all. Just relax.
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Well since you utterly failed to present evidence, I will. :D

I'm thinking you'll pay your taxes this year too for some strange reason...
 
Pleas to emotion?

I cite the CAPPS II stories, the stories about the government using NASA to reverse-engineer Census data to names for their airport junk, the examples of historical abuse of Census data, and you don't see any problem at all?

Talk about complacency. With that sort of attitude, it's a sure thing you don't even vote. I mean, why bother? Whoever ends up in power will do what is best, no matter what, right?
 
Not to mention the variety of lovely state bills and measures for establishing theocracy:

http://www.house.state.mo.us/bills041/biltxt/intro/HB0911I.htm
(Teach creationism as science)

http://www.kingjamestextbook.com/pages/1/index.htm
(Make the state pay to give away free bibles at public schools for every grade, and dedicate study time for it every year.)

The kooks are there. Some are already in the government. Like Judge Roy Moore, or Dubya.

Your complacency only empowers them.

Ahh, here's an interesting site...

http://theocracywatch.org/

Our fearless leaders doing what they perceive to be "The Right Thing": Establishing the United States of Jesus.
 
evildave said:
Not to mention the variety of lovely state bills and measures for establishing theocracy ...
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I think you are over-reacting.

I am opposed to government funding of "faith based" outfits, just as you are. Yes I agree that this trend absolutely stinks. I am like you in this respect.

A theocracy is a state in which priests rule. Or imams or what have you.

I am not pleased that the Salvation Army and the like can now pick my pocket. But that is not a theocracy.

The UK has an established church. It gets government money to keep going. This is wrong in my opinion. But the UK is far from being a theocracy.
 
El Greco said:
I've been reading several statistics and they are contradictive. For example, one source says that in Russia the atheists+agnostics are 60%, and another source that they are 20%. In USA the number is somewhere between 1 and 7% ? In general, the countries with the most atheists and/or agnostics seem to be some former eastern block countries like Russia and Czech Republic, France, Netherlands and the Scandinavic countries.

Are there any reliable statistics ?
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Below are some statistics from www.adherents.com.

Are they reliable? Who knows? Are any statistics?
 
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CWL said:


Below are some statistics from www.adherents.com.

Are they reliable? Who knows? Are any statistics?
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I notice that we Jews are off the radar, number-wise. Yet we control the world. Yes this Mad Arab adheres to what must be the winning side. Not the religious part, just the international conspiracy part.

International Jewish Conspiracy
Since 3760 BCE
The world's oldest family owned international conspiracy.

:p :p :p :p
 
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Abdul Alhazred said:


International Jewish Conspiracy
Since 3760 BCE
The world's oldest family owned international conspiracy.

:p :p :p :p
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A bit of clarification. Of course there weren't Jews as such in 3760 BCE, that's just when the international conspiracy started. Ever wonder why that's year zero on the Jewish calendar? :p
 
East Germany has been integrated into Germany since 1990, so basically any poll data newer 1990 should have the "no gun to your head" effect. So find something newer than a 1991 report.

Of course, the born-again and culty types have had a few years of hanging around college campuses and looking for unfortunates of various flavors to swell their ranks.
 
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