How Loony are the Loons?

[332nd]

All in an effort to get the Eagles to win the NFC East, how else do you explain the month they're having? Did you see the controlled demo they did to the Cowboys the other night?

Nah. It was my Panthers that imploded this season. They actually had to devolve to highschool plays to get a win.

 

[Crungy]

Better bring more this time, they're cutting off alcohol sales at halftime!


All in an effort to get the Eagles to win the NFC East, how else do you explain the month they're having? Did you see the controlled demo they did to the Cowboys the other night?

As soon as everyone convinced me that Romo and the Cowboys were the NFC team to watch they tank and who comes along, but the Eagle helmed by Jeff Garcia?! I'm not looking forward to the playoffs. It could be another repeat from last year or 01. I was at that Carolina game last year. It felt like I was a wake.

........They're cutting of booze sales at halftime??!!

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Crungy]

Nah. It was my Panthers that imploded this season. They actually had to devolve to highschool plays to get a win.

With Weinke at the helm, how could you guys lose?

I was at the Panthers - Rams game in early November. Did you know that for pre and post game festivities, the Panthers fans hang out at a lesbian bar a block from the stadium? It was an interesting site.

Yeah, I hijacked this thread, but would you rather talk football or listen to P-Sock #41 babble nonsense some more.

 

[332nd]

With Weinke at the helm, how could you guys lose?

I was at the Panthers - Rams game in early November. Did you know that for pre and post game festivities, the Panthers fans hang out at a lesbian bar a block from the stadium? It was an interesting site.

Were the cheerleaders making out in the bathroom this time?

 

[Quad4_72]

Wow. I don't feel like quoting Kiwi because it is such a large post, but, you lose Removebush. Good stuff kiwi, I couldn't have put that better myself...well...maybe a little

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Thanks for the warm words..

Wow. I don't feel like quoting Kiwi because it is such a large post, but, you lose Removebush. Good stuff kiwi, I couldn't have put that better myself...well...maybe a little

Thanks for that, Quad 4. I'm sure if you had the time, energy, and patience, you could kick 28th Kingdom...I mean, Removedbrain...around pretty effectively, too. He's not hard to deal with. All you really have to do is maintain absolute calm in the face of his raving. His goal (among others) is to make his interlocutors explode in rage.

Go Army!

 

[Crungy]

Were the cheerleaders making out in the bathroom this time?

No, but there was this really butch dyke decked out in flannel sitting on the front steps puking her guts out.

There are some frisky southern belles in Charlotte.

 

[332nd]

No, but there was the really butch dyke decked out in flannel sitting on the front steps puking her guts out.

There are some frisky southern belles in Charlotte.

Very ture. I lived there for 3 years

 

[Quad4_72]

No, but there was this really butch dyke decked out in flannel sitting on the front steps puking her guts out.

There are some frisky southern belles in Charlotte.

...what in the HELL are you guys talking about???Haha.
Kiwi, I WISH I had the time for long posts! I am afraid that I can only give long, well thought out posts in rarity. Now I must resort to short, straight to the point posting due to time constraints. Occasionally I will get a nice rant going though, which I assume is what your post turned out to be even though you did not intend it to I do that all from time to time

 

[Horatius]

........They're cutting of booze sales at halftime??!!

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

This is a game on New Years Eve? What RemoveBush idiot came up with that plan?

 

[RemoveBush]

"Arkan_Wolfshade We can see that the towers took somewhere between 115.4% to 175.8% free-fall time to complete collapsing. Personally, I do not consider 15.4%-75.8% margin of difference to qualify as being labeled "near"."

Then prove that other buildings have fallen WITHIN less than 15% of "near free fall speed". This percentage is acceptable to me, I live in a reality world where "near" has an acceptable variation and it is not an Absolute!

Though I have not timed other demolitions, perhaps this is something I will do. However, even with explosives I will bet that other implosions did not fall at the calculated values of a VACUUM!

" If you feel this is insufficient to explain the damage seen, please provide your maths showing why."

I don't dispute the outer structural damage and the internal damage stated by NIST.

"Let me put it another way. In the EPA's sample, drywall dust accounted for more than ~15% more of the outdoor sample than concrete; and account for more than ~46% more of the indoor sample.
The bulk of the cloud seen from the collapse of the towers is drywall dust not concrete dust."

Actually, that would be incorrect if you really look at it! Since the floors were CONCRETE, and the walls seperating the offices were Drywall, the ratio between the two would most likely be more CONCRETE since it is the supporting substance of the floor! Yes there would be drywall in the debris, but what was there more of drywall or concrete?

The floor can be seen here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/docs/site1099.jpg

So the ABSENSE of a large portion of this concrete being intact is problematic for the OT. There are rescue workers stating, that the largest part found is a 1" piece of a phone. That much concrete would be in large chunks piled up at the site. Does this look like a large pile of concrete????
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/trouble/20_cushman.jpg

Or maybe this:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/trouble/19_flattened.jpg

Please show me where the massive concrete is for this building? Since the floors were concrete surely there would be signs of them laying around, right? Where are they?

Perhaps this statement, which I have not verified, but if true does show more evidence to implosion.

"“Loose Change, Final Cut” has a very informative, recorded
statement by a man who was trapped at floor 8 in WTC 7 due to
an explosion below him, he states for the record. Firefighters
were able to get him and a companion out of the building before
its complete collapse. Such an explosion would weaken the
structure below, as is commonly done in controlled demolitions."
http://www.journalof911studies.com/JonesAnswersQuestionsWorldTradeCenter.pdf

This has been one of my questions about the NIST report which everyone states has been answered:

"The NIST final report only takes us to the
point where the Tower is “poised to
collapse.” ...(NIST, 2005, p. 142; emphasis
added.)”"

This supports what I have been stating and so does the calculation provided in the document:

"Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse
of the Upper Storeys of WTC 1
by Gordon Ross
• “The analysis shows that despite the
assumptions made in favour of collapse
continuation, vertical movement of the falling
section would be arrested prior to
completion of the 3% shortening phase of
the impacted columns…
• “A collapse driven only by gravity would
not continue to progress beyond that point.”"

"No “stacked-up” floors in either Tower (left).
And where did the core columns go?
(How to explain without explosives?)"

See pg 25 for picture of MISSING core!

"“The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of
events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation
of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this
sequence is referred to as the "probable collapse
sequence," although it does not actually include the
structural behavior of the tower after the conditions
for collapse initiation were reached...” (NIST, 2005, p.
80, fn. 12; emphasis added.)
• Again, on page 142, NIST admits that their computer
simulation only proceeds until the building is “poised for
collapse”, thus ignoring any data from that time on.
• “The results were a simulation of the structural
deterioration of each tower from the time of aircraft
impact to the time at which the building became
unstable, i.e., was poised for collapse. ...(NIST, 2005,
p. 142; emphasis added.)”"

"“World Trade Center disaster investigators [at NIST] are refusing to show
computer visualizations of the collapse of the Twin Towers despite calls
from leading structural and fire engineers, NCE has learned."

"Experiments: Models of WTC floor assemblies, subjected
to intense fires, did not melt and did not collapse!
• Quoting from the final NIST report:
• “NIST contracted with Underwriters Laboratories,
Inc. to conduct tests to obtain information on the fire
endurance of trusses like those in the WTC towers….
• “All four test specimens sustained the maximum
design load for approximately 2 hours without
collapsing…
• “The results established that this type of assembly
was capable of sustaining a large gravity load,
without collapsing, for a substantial period of time
relative to the duration of the fires in any given
location on September 11.” (NIST, 2005, p. 141;
emphasis added.)"

 

[Quad4_72]

That is the most poorly laid out, confusing, and irrational post I think I have ever read RemoveBush. My head hurt just reading it. I would debunk it, but honestly, I don't even know what point you are trying to make. Did you happen to read a THING that kiwiwriter made in his post? Please use quotes correctly (cite who you are quoting) and organize your arguments better. Until then, you really are not worth responding to.

 

[babazaroni]

"Arkan_Wolfshade We can see that the towers took somewhere between 115.4% to 175.8% free-fall time to complete collapsing. Personally, I do not consider 15.4%-75.8% margin of difference to qualify as being labeled "near"."

Wow, you actually did a cut and paste, then added the url to show who the author was.

Did you know that the quote function will do all this and give a link to the original quote and format for readability, with less effort?

There is a reason you see the

at the bottom of every post.

 

[ConspiRaider]

That's right! Chiefs rule! Navy Chiefs and NFL Chiefs!

Chiefs are pretty cool. Of course nothing compared to the Browns but then what have the Brownies done lately? Zipola. Maybe they'll get a good draft pick or two. When a man's born in Cleveland then that man has to pull for the Browns. Tall order, the last 10 or 12 years.

GO BUCKEYES!

 

[WildCat]

Chiefs are pretty cool. Of course nothing compared to the Browns but then what have the Brownies done lately? Zipola. Maybe they'll get a good draft pick or two. When a man's born in Cleveland then that man has to pull for the Browns. Tall order, the last 10 or 12 years.

The real Browns are 13-2, they just call themselves the "Ravens" now.

 

[RemoveBush]

" So why not answer the two ridiculously easy questions I posed here? As far as I can tell, each is stated clearly and contains all the information you need to solve it."

Probably because I have been posting replies as I go..... You see I follow the posts and answer them in sequence, since it is page 13 and it is now at page 16 you can see I have a lot more to answer to as well.

Since I don't have my scientific calculator, I will answer the first one without any problems because a generic calculator will sufice for that.

"1. Somewhere above, you mentioned a DAC. Okay, assume that this DAC has a quantization step of 35 uV, that is, 1 LSB = 35 uV. Assume 16-bit linear two's-complement encoding. What are the positive and negative full-scale output voltages of this DAC?"

This is rather easy.....

Considering that each step is 35uV in value, give or take because of quantization errors, that means that the highest digital value for the positive swing is: 7FFFh since the MSB is used as the SIGN bit this is the maximum positive bit count available with a bi-polar DAC! The negative swing is: 8000h

Therefore, given that each step is 35uV, and the maximum digital count for the positive swing is 7FFF we take and multiply 32767 by 35uV and get 1.146845V. For the negative side we take 8000 and multiply it by 32768 by 35uV and we get 1.14688V

As you will agree, the other question you asked is a little more involved and requires more computing power. I am at home and my calculator, hp48, is at work where I use it everyday.

"I'm going to head out to the Sepulveda Basin Recreational Area to watch the waterfowl; I should be back in about 3-4 hours."

 

[Crungy]

" So why not answer the two ridiculously easy questions I posed here? As far as I can tell, each is stated clearly and contains all the information you need to solve it."

Probably because I have been posting replies as I go..... You see I follow the posts and answer them in sequence, since it is page 13 and it is now at page 16 you can see I have a lot more to answer to as well.

Since I don't have my scientific calculator, I will answer the first one without any problems because a generic calculator will sufice for that.

"1. Somewhere above, you mentioned a DAC. Okay, assume that this DAC has a quantization step of 35 uV, that is, 1 LSB = 35 uV. Assume 16-bit linear two's-complement encoding. What are the positive and negative full-scale output voltages of this DAC?"

This is rather easy.....

Considering that each step is 35uV in value, give or take because of quantization errors, that means that the highest digital value for the positive swing is: 7FFFh since the MSB is used as the SIGN bit this is the maximum positive bit count available with a bi-polar DAC! The negative swing is: 8000h

Therefore, given that each step is 35uV, and the maximum digital count for the positive swing is 7FFF we take and multiply 32767 by 35uV and get 1.146845V. For the negative side we take 8000 and multiply it by 32768 by 35uV and we get 1.14688V

As you will agree, the other question you asked is a little more involved and requires more computing power. I am at home and my calculator, hp48, is at work where I use it everyday.

"I'm going to head out to the Sepulveda Basin Recreational Area to watch the waterfowl; I should be back in about 3-4 hours."

Bear Down, Chicago Bears.
Make every play clear the way to victory!
Bear Down, Chicago Bears.
Put up a fight with a might so fearlessly!

We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation,
With your T formation.

Bear Down, Chicago Bears.
And let them know why you're wearing the crown.

You're the pride and joy,
of all Illinois.

Chicago Bears, Bear Down!

 

[332nd]

GO BUCKEYES!

FSU has won the Emerald Bowl!!!! Glazed nuts for every one!!!!!

 

[T.A.M.]

waiting.....still

 

[Gravy]

Actually, that would be incorrect if you really look at it! Since the floors were CONCRETE, and the walls seperating the offices were Drywall, the ratio between the two would most likely be more CONCRETE since it is the supporting substance of the floor! Yes there would be drywall in the debris, but what was there more of drywall or concrete?

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT! There was far more concrete by weight in the towers than drywall. But drywall makes up a greater percentage of the dust.

Now what does that tell you, RemoveBush?

That's my last reply until you learn to use the quote button, you inconsiderate person.