How Loony are the Loons?

"Then wouldn't airline Boeing jets filled with fuel suffise to demolish them? Isn't the controlled demolition unnecessary?"

Not according to the project manager. On tape says that he believes, not that means much, that the building would survive MULTIPLE airplane hits.
 
"This kind of fuel:"

You do know that NIST performed a mock up of the trusses and was unable to observe a similar reaction that they are claiming? Yet they are standing by their claim, even though through scientific experimentation they are unable to obtain anything similar in the results that happened on 9/11?
 
RemoveBush said:
Allow me....

"Assertion #1"

They "claim" to have analyzed all video, but yet I have watched 911eyewitness, which appears to have vanished from google, and you can CLEARLY hear explosions and see dust rising from the ground about 10 - 20 seconds before the top begins to collapse.

"Assertion #2"

They "claim" that a 50 story piece was intact, but yet no where is there ANY evidence of this! There has been no photos of this 50 story piece laying around, and I have seen many pictures of the day.

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Oh for crying out loud.

I do so hope that you're not the best the 'truth' movement can muster, because quite frankly this is extremely embarassing.

You feel you can cite one video as evidence that there were explosions prior to collapse, when ALL of the other video and sound and siesmic evidence contradicts this ONE video?

And this claim of a 50 storey piece being intact.... could you clarify this please, as I have a horrible feeling you are going to claim that the section of the tower above the impact zone which collapsed down on to the remainder of the tower was somehow claimed to still be intact after the collapse finished.

I hope that isn't your claim, I really do...... but I don't hold out much hope.
 
RemoveBush: Why can't you, an alleged college educated person, construct a coherent sentence? Why can't you develop a logical argument? Why can't you use the quote function?
 
RemoveBush said:
" You essentially agree with thier position on CD of the WTC then?"

Not all!

Allow me....

"Assertion #1"

They "claim" to have analyzed all video, but yet I have watched 911eyewitness, which appears to have vanished from google, and you can CLEARLY hear explosions and see dust rising from the ground about 10 - 20 seconds before the top begins to collapse.

"Assertion #2"

They "claim" that a 50 story piece was intact, but yet no where is there ANY evidence of this! There has been no photos of this 50 story piece laying around, and I have seen many pictures of the day.

"Assertion #3"

Yes it is.... At the point of collapse, or just below, not 10 - 20 stories below.

"Assertion #4"

Several Police, Fireman, EMS, News personel, and citizens report hearing EXPLOSIONS! News reporter live "we were in WTC? when we heard the second explosion, then a fire chief came in and told us to get out because if there was a THIRD explosion the building might not survive."

http://www.911revisited.com/

"Assertion #5"

There was evidence!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=87932

Notice how the slag is flowing from this steel beam. Notice where this steel beam is. I doubt that they had a man out there cutting this beam in this area considering the debris around it and the fact that there is no sign of any part of it laying below it.

Slag does not end up like that when being cut, from what I have seen with the time that I was using a torch and watching it being used.

"Assertion #6"

Simply looking at the steel is not an investigation! They are making claims that the steel was analyzed, when it was not! The steel was not taken to a lab, they even imply that themselves! Having people look at steel, and I am sure they could not look at it all before shipping, does not constitute and investigation of the steel.

"Assertion #7"

They are correct on item ONE. However, what they FAIL to identify is why the firemen would even call Larry? So for him to make a statement like that is unprecidented. When the firemen work a scene, they are in complete control of the area. They make the decissions. They determine pulling MEN, not "IT" from the buildings.

For item number 3, well there are other people in the field that says otherwise...

http://www.rense.com/general67/forensic.htm
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[SIZE=+1]Item number 5, the eyewitness is a firefighter (as this has been used time and time again by the same people). Yet, others have proclaimed "bombs in the building" in VIDEOS. I believe video because it is less subjective to interpretation of a question or answer.[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=+1]"To draw any specific relationship between how many buildings were destroyed and the reason for thier collapse runs counter to logic and common sense."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]What! With all due respect! What a CROCK! Of course it plays a role. If the building would have stopped collapsing patially on the way down and left 2-4-or 10 floors intact with rubble all the way around, we would not be having this discussion. But it did not, and it is COMPLETLY within logic and common sense to ask these questions.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]"Assertion #9"[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]This is the funniest...... They dismiss hours of tapes with people pointing out that there were explosions, its on tape people, and then they want to claim that people are making things fit their conclusion.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]With all due respect again! In this statement alone, they have dropped down to about a 5 on the believable scale. Police, firemen, and ems in their statements indicate that they heard, saw, and felt explosions. One guy said (Paraphrasing) "Then it started popping and it started going around the building, we could see the explosion as it went around the building."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]There are hundreds of similar stories. The basement being blown only seconds before the plane hits.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Do I believe some of what they state? Sure! However, by their comments it is clear that they failed in many areas and that their ASSUMPTION in many areas are not scientific or provable.[/SIZE]


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What the hell is wrong with you? Try using the freaking quote button. Jeesss...
 
RemoveBush said:
"This kind of fuel:"

You do know that NIST performed a mock up of the trusses and was unable to observe a similar reaction that they are claiming? Yet they are standing by their claim, even though through scientific experimentation they are unable to obtain anything similar in the results that happened on 9/11?
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Oh crap, I thought you asked about what fueled the fires? I did not account in my answer for you moving the goalposts afterwards. My bad.
 
"quote=pomeroo;2207789 I'm not an engineer, nor do I play one on television. One of my friends who is a structural engineer has devised a test, charming in its innocence and simplicity, for unmasking frauds like RB. He suggests asking the impostor to explain why no skyscrapers are constructed of wood."

Since I am not a DEGREED engineer (a software engineer is I) I believe I can temporarily fill the shoes of 28th Kingdom and answer this question WITHOUT using the quote feature just like he and/or she or/and it would do.

Pomeroo: Carcinogens, is why?!? Geez! That's why your knot an EnginEar, see?!? Some woods is stronger than steal even! Like walnuts and cherries wood and Birch Society wood. Plus like wood don't rust very much of a whole lot either so it lasts Longer than most Steal witch can rust even if its Stainless! Its reely the TERMITES man! Even Shills shud no about Termites! If you have the wood struckchoor then you got Termytes and THEN you have to have a big tank at the Top of the Bilding full of Insecktoside. Like they'd open the valves on that Big Tank Every six months or so to kill the little termyte buggers. But what if like the Tank Watchers up top had a fist Fight or something and one fell into the valve and it opened during The day?!? Then peeple would breethe the Insecktaside and get cancer and Sue the shill Reel Estate Develuppers and then that would be the End of collecting Rent and no more trillian of dollors for the Corporatist LandLourdes!!!
 
RemoveBush said:
"This kind of fuel:"

You do know that NIST performed a mock up of the trusses and was unable to observe a similar reaction that they are claiming? Yet they are standing by their claim, even though through scientific experimentation they are unable to obtain anything similar in the results that happened on 9/11?
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Sorry, can't respond till you use the quote button.

It is difficult to verify who said what and see the original quote unless you do.
 
ConspiRaider said:
"quote=pomeroo;2207789 I'm not an engineer, nor do I play one on television. One of my friends who is a structural engineer has devised a test, charming in its innocence and simplicity, for unmasking frauds like RB. He suggests asking the impostor to explain why no skyscrapers are constructed of wood."

Since I am not a DEGREED engineer (a software engineer is I) I believe I can temporarily fill the shoes of 28th Kingdom and answer this question WITHOUT using the quote feature just like he and/or she or/and it would do.

Pomeroo: Carcinogens, is why?!? Geez! That's why your knot an EnginEar, see?!? Some woods is stronger than steal even! Like walnuts and cherries wood and Birch Society wood. Plus like wood don't rust very much of a whole lot either so it lasts Longer than most Steal witch can rust even if its Stainless! Its reely the TERMITES man! Even Shills shud no about Termites! If you have the wood struckchoor then you got Termytes and THEN you have to have a big tank at the Top of the Bilding full of Insecktoside. Like they'd open the valves on that Big Tank Every six months or so to kill the little termyte buggers. But what if like the Tank Watchers up top had a fist Fight or something and one fell into the valve and it opened during The day?!? Then peeple would breethe the Insecktaside and get cancer and Sue the shill Reel Estate Develuppers and then that would be the End of collecting Rent and no more trillian of dollors for the Corporatist LandLourdes!!!
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Wow! Verbatim!

Did 28K take over your body?
 
RemoveBush said:
"Then wouldn't airline Boeing jets filled with fuel suffise to demolish them? Isn't the controlled demolition unnecessary?"

Not according to the project manager. On tape says that he believes, not that means much, that the building would survive MULTIPLE airplane hits.
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Again, use the quote function.
 
"Question 1

Do you believe that two jet liners collided with the twin towers on 9/11?

Now if the answer to this is 'no' then you don't have to bother with the next question which is a bit more detailed."

Yes I believe planes hit the building. The question is what type of planes and where they the planes we are told.

"So the question is if one imagines that the government staged the event in order to advance a private agenda why did they go to what I'm sure you'll agree is a enormous undertaking in order to make the towers collapse."

Here is something it sounds like you are not aware of? Did you know that the towers were about to be CONDEMED? They were on their last waiver.... I can't remember where I read it, I will look for that.

It was going to cost about 2 BILLION dollars to bring the buildings up to code. They were going to have to basically gut the buildings inside and out! How convienent for Larry that this happens so he does not have to spend that money but makes that kind of money? There sure are a lot of coincidences for 9/11! Sorry, but one two or five would be reasonable, but when you have hundreds (maybe not that high but you get the idea) then it becomes something else. The odds are about a TRILLION to one for that many occuring on one day.

The money trai is easy if they higher out of country. Who's to know? More than half of the hijackers were Saudi's, yet we attack Iraq? It is extremely plausible/possible for someone to higher Saudi, Pakistan, or Isreal to do the job.

By the way.... Most of the people in the truth movement do not claim that this was PLANNED by Bush! This was planned for years. The military industrial complex is more than likely to be part of this than anyone. Bush did know though!

Secret Service was definatly told not to do their job on 9/11 with Bush. The notion that "he did not want to scare the kids" is just another smoke screen. If that were the case, he would not have told the WORLD on live TV that we were under attack in front of those kids. I'm sure this scared them more then just calmly getting up and dealing with the situation in another room. Don't you think?

I will look for that article in the mean time. I will be back later, as I have some things to do.

ciao
 
RemoveBush said:
"Question 1

Do you believe that two jet liners collided with the twin towers on 9/11?

Now if the answer to this is 'no' then you don't have to bother with the next question which is a bit more detailed."

Yes I believe planes hit the building. The question is what type of planes and where they the planes we are told.

"So the question is if one imagines that the government staged the event in order to advance a private agenda why did they go to what I'm sure you'll agree is a enormous undertaking in order to make the towers collapse."
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Use the quote function, as that allows us to easily look at the original context of your quotes.
 
RemoveBush said:
I will look for that article in the mean time. I will be back later, as I have some things to do.
ciao
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Perhaps when you come back you could provide sources for all of your info.
If possible the original printed source would be nice, paraphrasing is also not allowed.
 
Skibum said:
Perhaps when you come back you could provide sources for all of your info.
If possible the original printed source would be nice, paraphrasing is also not allowed.
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Also check out this forum's help section. It's bound to have an entry about the quote function.
 
RemoveBush said:
"Question 1

Do you believe that two jet liners collided with the twin towers on 9/11?

Now if the answer to this is 'no' then you don't have to bother with the next question which is a bit more detailed."

Yes I believe planes hit the building. The question is what type of planes and where they the planes we are told.

"So the question is if one imagines that the government staged the event in order to advance a private agenda why did they go to what I'm sure you'll agree is a enormous undertaking in order to make the towers collapse."
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Where were these alleged "questions" asked? I think you're serving yourself some easy questions to answer, so it looks like you'll be willing to answer questions when you're not. Please provide links to the post that presented these questions, or we'll just have to assume you faked them all.

RemoveBush said:
Here is something it sounds like you are not aware of? Did you know that the towers were about to be CONDEMED? They were on their last waiver.... I can't remember where I read it, I will look for that.
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Oh, how convienient, you can't remember where you heard it!

Perhaps you could explain why Mr. Silverstein would get himself involved in a long-term lease on a property that was about to be condemned? Is he just the worst billionaire landowner in history?


RemoveBush said:
The money trai is easy if they higher out of country. Who's to know? More than half of the hijackers were Saudi's, yet we attack Iraq? It is extremely plausible/possible for someone to higher Saudi, Pakistan, or Isreal to do the job.
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Okay, "trai" is an honest typo, but "Higher"? That's just the completely wrong word, and you used it twice! Learn to use proper English, and you won't come across as an uneducated boob.

RemoveBush said:
I will look for that article in the mean time. I will be back later, as I have some things to do.
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Sure, you just go "look". We'll be here waiting for your admission that you just made that all up.

Oh, and those links I asked for.
 
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