How Long Will Biden Last? Full Term? Two?

[Regnad Kcin]

Works for me.

Another slightly less plausible scenario has a meteor strike taking out the entire world’s population save for Pete and Ivanka. They go neck and neck down the final stretch with the tie finally broken by the meteor.

 

[TragicMonkey]

If Biden wins, he will be the first president from the Silent generation.

Kamala Harris (born in 1964), is still a ... Baby Boomer (by 2 months, admittedly ).

Buttigieg is Generation X.

I go with the definition of Boomers that means post WW2 babies. Literally the baby boom from returning soldiers. Biden is the same generation as my parents. They're Boomers.

 

[angrysoba]

I go with the definition of Boomers that means post WW2 babies. Literally the baby boom from returning soldiers. Biden is the same generation as my parents. They're Boomers.

Uhmmm Biden was born in 1942. I don't know his father's history, but which war was he returning from then?

 

[timhau]

Biden's age might be factor if anyone that was ever even seriously considered was young. Trump's old. Bernie's old. Warren is old. The difference between 74 and 77 isn't that big of a deal.

If you compare an obese 74-year-old who can't string together coherent sentences or drink a glass of water with one hand and a trim 77-year-old who occasionally puts his foot in his mouth like he's alwsys done, the 74-year old probably isn't the top option healthwise.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Uhmmm Biden was born in 1942. I don't know his father's history, but which war was he returning from then?

I'm no mathematician, but it seems to me, upon first perusal, that 1942 is closer to 1945 than 1964 is to 1945. I'm comfortable assigning Biden to the Boomer generation, he has more in common with the most of them than he does with Harris, or Harris with the older Boomers.

 

[Bob001]

Mayor Pete would be a great choice for press secretary. That would give him a good national and international stage as well.

Press secretaries are nobodies. That's a dead-end job. Better to appoint him to the cabinet, or let him get ready to run for House or Senate in 2022.

 

[Venom]

Uhmmm Biden was born in 1942. I don't know his father's history, but which war was he returning from then?

We will probably have zero pre-WWII candidates after Biden.

I expect candidates in the Baby Boomer range for another two election cycles.

There are already plenty of Millennials who can run, but probably won't. I expect the people between Millennials and Boomers to dominate the landscape for decades to come.

 

[Stacyhs]

Press secretaries are nobodies. That's a dead-end job. Better to appoint him to the cabinet, or let him get ready to run for House or Senate in 2022.

Agreed.

 

[TragicMonkey]

We will probably have zero pre-WWII candidates after Biden.

I expect candidates in the Baby Boomer range for another two election cycles.

There are already plenty of Millennials who can run, but probably won't. I expect the people between Millennials and Boomers to dominate the landscape for decades to come.

Yeah, because if there's one thing Gen X is known for, it's our deep, abiding ambition and desire to do stuff.

 

[angrysoba]

I'm no mathematician, but it seems to me, upon first perusal, that 1942 is closer to 1945 than 1964 is to 1945. I'm comfortable assigning Biden to the Boomer generation, he has more in common with the most of them than he does with Harris, or Harris with the older Boomers.

Yeah, but closer to 1945 than 1964 makes him a Silent Generation not a Boomer.

Is there some weird Halloween tradition in the US where people in American just make irrelevant counter factual claims using weird logic and yet with a slightly patronizing tone for good measure:
“hey, Biden’s Canadian!”

“Say what?”

“I’m no cartographer but last I checked Delaware is closer to Canada than Ecuador, so he’s from Canada. You know, where Rick Moranis is from?”

 

[TragicMonkey]

Yeah, but closer to 1945 than 1964 makes him a Silent Generation not a Boomer.

Is there some weird Halloween tradition in the US where people in American just make irrelevant counter factual claims using weird logic and yet with a slightly patronizing tone for good measure:
“hey, Biden’s Canadian!”

“Say what?”

“I’m no cartographer but last I checked Delaware is closer to Canada than Ecuador, so he’s from Canada. You know, where Rick Moranis is from?”

Sorry, I didn't realize that there were official and universally-accepted demarcation lines of who is and isn't considered part of a particular named "generation". Must be funny for Biden's siblings to be a different generation than their brother, despite sharing the same parents.

Before you can characterize something as "counter factual" you ought to be able to establish it as a fact, shouldn't you? And this business of named "generations" is hardly scientific. By its very nature it's fuzzy. Not even remotely the same thing as national borders which are indeed very, very established fact. With literal armies to back it up, in case of disagreements.

 

[dirtywick]

I agree with this, but what's the point? How is that relevant to Biden?

lol nothing, just commenting on some other observations in the thread.

 

[angrysoba]

Sorry, I didn't realize that there were official and universally-accepted demarcation lines of who is and isn't considered part of a particular named "generation". Must be funny for Biden's siblings to be a different generation than their brother, despite sharing the same parents.

Before you can characterize something as "counter factual" you ought to be able to establish it as a fact, shouldn't you? And this business of named "generations" is hardly scientific. By its very nature it's fuzzy. Not even remotely the same thing as national borders which are indeed very, very established fact. With literal armies to back it up, in case of disagreements.

I’m going with the definition that you used: “born post-WW2”:
And why should it be considered so ridiculous that siblings can be born in different generations?

I go with the definition of Boomers that means post WW2 babies. Literally the baby boom from returning soldiers. Biden is the same generation as my parents. They're Boomers.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I’m going with the definition that you used: “born post-WW2”:
And why should it be considered so ridiculous that siblings can be born in different generations?

Because that's what a generation is: your level on the family tree. Grandma, Grandpa, Great Uncle Josephette, and Great Auntie Boopsie are one generation; your parents, Uncle Fats, Uncle Gerald, and Aunt Little Boopsie are the next generation; you, your sister, your brother, and your cousins Melissa and Karyn-Mehghan are the third generation.

Do you think your brother becomes your uncle just because a particular year falls into the age gap between you?

 

[angrysoba]

Because that's what a generation is: your level on the family tree. Grandma, Grandpa, Great Uncle Josephette, and Great Auntie Boopsie are one generation; your parents, Uncle Fats, Uncle Gerald, and Aunt Little Boopsie are the next generation; you, your sister, your brother, and your cousins Melissa and Karyn-Mehghan are the third generation.

Do you think your brother becomes your uncle just because a particular year falls into the age gap between you?

Huh? You can be older than your uncle. How does it work then?

Anyway, fine, if you want to define it that way and argue that because Biden’s siblings were boomers then he must be too, but don’t be surprised if you cause confusion when you are now changing the very definition you used to begin with. You don’t even acknowledge that you explicitly used a definition before of being born post-WW2, you just slide Trump-like into saying something completely different.

 

[acbytesla]

Agreed. Being a governor is good experience. Being a general is not government experience nor is being a CEO.

Let's see, 12 Presidents were Generals. Seems like Generals have done OK.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Huh? You can be older than your uncle. How does it work then?

And being older than your uncle doesn't make him part of your generation on your family tree, nor you part of his.

Anyway, fine, if you want to define it that way and argue that because Biden’s siblings were boomers then he must be too,

That's not the reason I consider Biden a Boomer, it was an illustration meant to show how ridiculous it is to try to define generations with hard lines on particular years. The concept of named "generations" exists simply to categorize a bunch of people of roughly the same age as having characteristics in common. Biden has more in common with the Boomers than he does with the previous "generation". That's what I'm saying.

but don’t be surprised if you cause confusion when you are now changing the very definition you used to begin with. You don’t even acknowledge that you explicitly used a definition before of being born post-WW2, you just slide Trump-like into saying something completely different.

Yeah, I'm sure that because this is a court case everyone will leap to agree with you that I am just like Trump because I consider Biden to be a Boomer, his age being close enough to the fuzzy borders generally applied to that non-scientific categorization.

Also, I call stuff "champagne" even if it wasn't made in one particular region of France! I (this will shock you, I'm sure) also refer to a particular foodstuff as "Jello" even when it's not Jello brand gelatin!

 

[TragicMonkey]

Let's see, 12 Presidents were Generals. Seems like Generals have done OK.

Yeah, but most of those were old-timey presidents. Eisenhower was the most recent, right? And that was quite a while ago.


eta: I look forward the wrangle on the exact definitions of "a while" and "quite a while".

 

[dirtywick]

Let's see, 12 Presidents were Generals. Seems like Generals have done OK.

True but it’s an antiquated qualification. Only 1 of them served during a war that wasn’t fought on horseback.

 

[Stacyhs]

Let's see, 12 Presidents were Generals. Seems like Generals have done OK.

That doesn't mean it's good government experience*. Besides, most of them had government experience before becoming president. Grant, Taylor, and Eisenhower did not. Grant was a horrible president. We haven't had a general as POTUS since Eisenhower.

ETA: *Such as holding a governorship or being a senator.