How I Debated a 9/11 Truther and Survived - Dave Thomas

[TjW]

This from my YouTube channel (user/TheGrizzledwizard):

anonymousbug: f_ing sheep! you can't tell the difference between an apple and an orange... this guy is not Romero, 9/11 was an inside job.

I don't know how they saw through that... we even arranged to have Van's double wearing the same clothes Romero wore on Ventura's show, for "continuity"...

Win some, lose some...

It's VanRomeromania! Not Van Romero, but an incredible simulation!

 

[CurtC]

but there is a level of irony to the fact that truthers have been touting nanothermite, a lot of pop and fizzle which amounts to nothing substantial.

Or one might say, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

 

[TK0001]

While it's a great series of videos, it's a shame that:

1. He didn't use something close to the actual size of a core column, an I beam that measures roughly 24" x 52". Instead they used what looked to be a 12 x 12 steel tube. The fact thermate-dumped-onto-thermate wasn't able to burn through a "beam" significantly smaller in size is damning, but not if you don't point out how much smaller the test subject is than the real deal.

2. He didn't take it further and stand that massive column up on end and watch as gravity pulled the burning thermate harmlessly to the ground, leaving the beam intact.

 

[CurtC]

Dave, there are still a couple of questions I had which haven't been answered, at least not that I've seen.

1. Was that really thermite in the bucket that was dropped onto the beam?

2. Would a normal office fire be hot enough to trigger the thermite reaction if the thermite were painted on like in the video?

thanks!

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Dave, there are still a couple of questions I had which haven't been answered, at least not that I've seen.

1. Was that really thermite in the bucket that was dropped onto the beam?

2. Would a normal office fire be hot enough to trigger the thermite reaction if the thermite were painted on like in the video?

thanks!

Still Waiting for Van to get back to moi. Veeps have it pretty busy. I'll ping again....

Cheers, Dave

 

[LashL]

It's VanRomeromania! Not Van Romero, but an incredible simulation!

Of course, it was all CGI, careful (evil) editing and voice morphing and such like, since everyone knows that Van Romero doesn't really exist and never has. He is/was a carefully (evilly) constructed plot of the NWO from the outset, and his entire "existence" was a long term psy-op created decades ago for purposes of using his psuedo-existence as a prop in the 9/11 conspiracy/psy-op. It's all so clear if you just take those blinders off, sheeple!






Okay, I admit that I can't even type this kind of tripe with a straight face. hee hee.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Ran into Van

I ran into Van briefly at the Science Fair today. He thinks there was thermite, and maybe some extra aluminum oxide powder, in the cups used to ignite the painted-on thermite. He will get me in touch with the engineer who mixed the stuff to get a better description.

The reason the beam was kept horizontal is that is Worst Case (or Best Case for actually affecting the beam with thermite). In vertical beams, the molten slag puddle just runs off uselessly, and thermite is much more dubious as a cutter in that geometry.

More later, Dave

 

[newton3376]

I ran into Van briefly at the Science Fair today. He thinks there was thermite, and maybe some extra aluminum oxide powder, in the cups used to ignite the painted-on thermite. He will get me in touch with the engineer who mixed the stuff to get a better description.

The reason the beam was kept horizontal is that is Worst Case (or Best Case for actually affecting the beam with thermite). In vertical beams, the molten slag puddle just runs off uselessly, and thermite is much more dubious as a cutter in that geometry.

More later, Dave

Hi Dave,

Excellent presentation BTW.

Anyway I wanted to know if you ever got any clarification/answers to some of the questions in this thread?

Thanks.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Consider me Pinged. Thanks!

Dave

 

[Edx]

I ran into Van briefly at the Science Fair today. He thinks there was thermite, and maybe some extra aluminum oxide powder, in the cups used to ignite the painted-on thermite. He will get me in touch with the engineer who mixed the stuff to get a better description.

I have to say if that's true that's a silly test. They claim fire would have ignited the paint with fire, not that they dumped a load of thermite on it.

 

[newton3376]

I have to say if that's true that's a silly test. They claim fire would have ignited the paint with fire, not that they dumped a load of thermite on it.

It would be kind of funny if they used thermite to ignite the painted on thermite....

Have the truthers ever actually stated what they think was used as an ignition source for the *lol* painted on "super-nano-whatever-thermite"?

 

[Orphia Nay]

Have the truthers ever actually stated what they think was used as an ignition source for the *lol* painted on "super-nano-whatever-thermite"?

Last we heard, Steven Jones is now saying the supercalifragilistic thermite was the fuse.

I've already done a calculation, (see my post from a few days ago), of how much heat energy a layer of nano-thermite (such as the one allegedly found by Jones et al) could generate. And, by the way, you have not commented on this calculation as you said you would. Nevertheless, my conclusion was that Jones' chips would do no more than slightly warm a WTC column!

So when I bounced my calculations and conclusions off Jones et al, all he could come up with was the suggestion that there were probably other explosives used in the WTC and the nanothermite chips were maybe just fuses!

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/active-thermitic-material-in-wtc-dust-t150-30.html

So it's a superdoopermeganano-thermite Hushaboom^TM demolition.