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How Do You Build A Web Page?

Ian,

From your webpage (yes, I know you haven't used it yet, but it's there alright):

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The person peeping through the sky...would that be the "God" that "allows it"?
 
Interesting Ian said:
Claus, you really don't have a clue.

Please.

Ian, I've done websites professionally for more than a decade. You really don't have a clue.

Please.
 
CFLarsen said:
Ian, I've done websites professionally for more than a decade. You really don't have a clue.

Please.

Oh I think this site will suit my purposes. Make it very simple, and make the text easy to read eg black against a white background. Also when it's finished there will be less scrolling in "Are we machines" section. I'll be putting every sub-section on a separate page.

I'm not interested in anything too fancy and cluttering up the pages. It is the ideas conveyed which is vastly more important, and conveying one's ideas in as simple a manner as possible.
 
CFLarsen said:
H3LL,I think you should concentrate more on realizing that your advice sucks, rather than trying to make this into a personal issue.

Nice CV.

Seeing as much of my advice is to pay attention to what you said for a professionally designed site, I'm not sure whether to agree or disagree with you.

I'm not a professional web developer. You are. I'm an amateur website maker. I suggested "do what I have done" because it was an easy beginning. No coding skill needed.

Your problem is that you can't read requirements.

You have yet to offer one tiny bit of advice, on how they will design a site for themselves. As stated in their requirements.

You have given good advice, which I've agreed with, although you say I'm wrong to agree with you, but you can only focus on using a developer and not addressing their requirements.

Where is your expert help on how they can do it themselves?

Where is your expert advice on how to get a TLD?

Where is your professional opinion of a good host?

Where is your experienced guidence on alternatives to a host?

I offered a solution to their requirements?
You did not?
 
H3LL,

I can tell that you are not a professional web developer, which makes your criticism even less relevant. I can not only read requirements, I can also understand them, and the impact they will have later on. You fail miserably in this.

So far, Luke's friend probably hasn't even seen this thread. We sure as heck haven't heard from him. When I know more about what exactly it is he wants, we can get back to all those requirements. Heck, you don't even know how much he is prepared to spend, what his security needs will be, or how much transfer he can expect, so how can you possibly advice him on a good host? To pick just one.

You, true to form, want to push your own ideas in his face. I am prepared to listen to him.

Now, please stop pretending you're someone qualified to give advice on this subject. You don't have the experience, you don't have the knowledge, you don't have the qualifications.
 
CFLarsen said:
H3LL,..... You don't have the experience, you don't have the knowledge, you don't have the qualifications.

Agreed..I'll shut up. :)

Plus it's really scary that Ian is putting his 2p worth in.
 
rightbrain said:
No comment.

Don't just say "no comment". I honestly think it's very good. So do a couple of people who have commented upon it. However, if anyone who has more experience than I think the site is defective in any way, then let me know and I'll make the appropriate modifications should the recommendations have any merit.

Basically I'm interested in people staying and actually reading what I've written. Clearly the the content of the text is the biggest factor here, but there is also a possibility that people might just see my site for a split second then immediately go off. I've never done website design, nor have I studied psychology, and in addition I'm a social misfit. Therefore prima facie I am the very worst person in the world to judge what people will like.

It's worth mentioning it most probably be a few months before the site is ready in terms of the ideas I want to express, then I intended to ask for help regarding the actual layout of the site. But if anyone has any comments now then I'll bear them in mind. I do not want to put a load of effort into expressing my ideas then either get no visitors, or have them stay for a matter of seconds at the most without actually reading anything. I also intend to have a link to a page about myself and why I like philosophy. Also, on the left hand side, I don't think I will have as many links as I have at the moment; at least not initially.

So any advice from anyone will be much appreciated.
 
Interesting Ian said:
So any advice from anyone will be much appreciated.

Lose the tiled backgrounds.

Lose the black buttons in favor of text-links.

Smaller fontsize on headlines.

Smaller fontsize in the article(!).

If you want to have a personal homepage, at least state your name.
 
CFLarsen said:
Lose the tiled backgrounds.

Lose the black buttons in favor of text-links.

Smaller fontsize on headlines.

Smaller fontsize in the article(!).

If you want to have a personal homepage, at least state your name.

Smaller font size yes. I certainly intended to change that anyway. And I was thinking of using a lighter green. I will add my name and introduce myself. As I say, I wasn't going to ask people until all the content was ready.

I actual like the black buttons myself, but I will certainly ask many peoples' opinions to see what they think.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Smaller font size yes. I certainly intended to change that anyway. And I was thinking of using a lighter green. I will add my name and introduce myself. As I say, I wasn't going to ask people until all the content was ready.

I actual like the black buttons myself, but I will certainly ask many peoples' opinions to see what they think.

Design is not democracy.
 
CFLarsen said:
Design is not democracy.

Well, it is in a sense. The question here is whether the black buttons encourage people to stay, put them off, or have no effect. I really don't know the answer to that question. My feeling, for what it's worth, would be that either it would have no effect, or it would very slightly encourage them.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Well, it is in a sense. The question here is whether the black buttons encourage people to stay, put them off, or have no effect. I really don't know the answer to that question. My feeling, for what it's worth, would be that either it would have no effect, or it would very slightly encourage them.

You really think you will have all that many visitors?

ETA: Usability is democracy. Design is not.
 
CFLarsen said:
You really think you will have all that many visitors?

ETA: Usability is democracy. Design is not.

I have no idea how many visitors I'll get. I imagine I wouldn't get many.
 
Design is not imprtant for visitor rates, content is, and how many places link to your site.

Normally, it takes time to pick up a high hit-rate. My own site has about six hots a week for a long time, but after getting on various sites, getting into search engines, etc., despite a rather specialized content (flight sim and vintage radios, heheh), I have been having a steady 100-150 daily hits for years, now.


Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
I have been having a steady 100-150 daily hits for years, now.

Have you checked who is hitting on you (yes, you know what I don't mean)?

It could be bots or it could be real people.
 
Originally posted by CFLarsen
Usability is democracy. Design is not.
The goal of usability is for many people to be able to use it. What's the goal of design? What do you mean by "design" anyway?
 

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