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How do Crystals "work"?

It is so tempting!

Should we do this? Should we start the JREF Woo Store? No, that's just too wicked...
 
Crystals are truly gifts from the Earth. Children seem to have a natural attraction to pick them up and fully explore any kind of stone or crystal. They will often use all their senses, seeing what the crystal looks like, feeling the texture with their fingertips, or even rubbing the crystal against other parts of their body. They are curious to know what it sounds like when the crystal drops on the ground or plops into water, what it smells like and tastes like.
Some children use their psychic senses, telling what the crystal is saying to them; or they will mysteriously use the crystal for healing without any instructions.
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From the crystals for men website, but under the heading '10 crystals for healing children.' 'Natural attraction' my ass. I'm almost 25 and I still go straight for anything sparkly (although I have ceased trying to fit it in my mouth). However, I am happy to report that no stone has ever tried to tell me something.
 
logical muse said:
It is so tempting!

Should we do this? Should we start the JREF Woo Store? No, that's just too wicked...
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Well, that's the temptation, isn't it? Know the ruse of the magician, and you can make a living as one. Sooooooo tempting. Selling crystal containers of essential essences diluted to d13 fastened by a magnetite-and-copper clasp psychically energized and tied with a Red StringTM.

The real trick is making an internet site that looks like its made of mud and sticks.
 
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As long as you don't associate it with the JREF, you'll probably be able to fool at least some people. But I'm sure that even with the association you'd still get customers. I have a friend who has a page on a fake product called Gulli-Go (homeopathic gullibility remedy) and people send him emails because they want to buy it.
 
Francois Tremblay said:
As long as you don't associate it with the JREF, you'll probably be able to fool at least some people. But I'm sure that even with the association you'd still get customers. I have a friend who has a page on a fake product called Gulli-Go (homeopathic gullibility remedy) and people send him emails because they want to buy it.
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I've half thoguht of doing that.

Make a network of woo pages.

Make a lot of woo products.

Sell, them. When people click the "buy" link, explain to them WHY the product is bunk.


I just fear it won't help.

Sincerely
Tobias.
 
Francois Tremblay said:
As long as you don't associate it with the JREF, you'll probably be able to fool at least some people. But I'm sure that even with the association you'd still get customers. I have a friend who has a page on a fake product called Gulli-Go (homeopathic gullibility remedy) and people send him emails because they want to buy it.
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http://gulligo.com/

That's just hilarious!

I have seen that site before, can't remember how I found it. It amazes me that people would think it's real. I mean, look at how he's selling it:

Are you tired of being taken for a ride by every huckster with an infomercial or a web site? Are you embarrassed about purchasing every nostrum on the natural remedies shelf? Are you sick of being a sucker?

Then we'd like you to try GulliGo! Make your gullibility go away!

Using the revolutionary techniques developed by Dr. Han Neman at the Super-Homeopathic Institute of Technology, GulliGo is a super-homeopathic gullibility remedy intended for people just like you.

At last, you can be gullible no more!
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It's brilliant! Even I want some. :)
 
Soapy Sam said:
I have my PC hooked to a dynamo powered by a quartz crystal under my chair. I plank my big fat bum on it and presto! Internet access.
I have to watch my weight or it starts emitting x-rays. Fried my video card.
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Can I safely assume, then, that your bum is protected by tinfoil underpants?
 
Crystals can take electricity and turn it into physical vibration, and they can also do the opposite vice versa.

I think they can allow long distance communication that way, by taking electricity, converting it to high fequency radio or tv waves, then sending it out in the air, and then reconverting the signals again

The power level of a computer of game system like PS2, I think is based on the rate of vibration of it's CPU
 
Soapy Sam said:
Teensy quibble. Obsidian is indeed a volcanic glass, the name is used for a range of ultrafine grained Rhyolites or Trachytes. These are cool magmas and tend to contain water which forms a significant part of the glassy rock once cooled. It doesn't actually have to hit liquid water, though of course it could.
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Also, obsidian is not technically a crystal. It has no consistant internal structure. For comparison, snow is a crystal, ice cubes are not.
 
Dr Adequate said:
Curiously, all such books seem to be arranged and indexed by the name of the crystal, instead of by the conditions they supposedly treat. This is stupid, and must be especially frustrating if it turns out that the best remedy for your condition is zircon.
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For a while I worked in a holistic healing centre.

One day someone came in and asked if we had any books about levitation.

I said "Yeah they're on the top shelf".

The memory still keeps me warm on cold winter's evenings.
 
Kilik said:
The power level of a computer of game system like PS2, I think is based on the rate of vibration of it's CPU
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It's not actually the vibrations of the CPU, it's the crystal controlled oscillator clock that provides the timing.

Computer 'power' isn't really referred to by the phrase 'power level'. Nonetheless, CPU frequency does contribute to the speed at which a computer is able to execute instructions.

Here's a quote from the intarweb:

The clock speed of a CPU is defined as the frequency that a processor executes instructions or that data is processed. This clock speed is measured in millions of cycles per second or megahertz (MHz). The clock itself is actually a quartz crystal that vibrates at a certain frequency when electricity is passed through it. Each vibration sends out a pulse or beat, like a metronome, to each component that's synchronized with it.
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And another:

An oscillator uses the resonance frequency of a piece of quartz crystal to create the oscillation in voltage. When a piece of quartz (silicon dioxide) is subjected to a current with a frequency that matches the quartz's resonance frequency, it begins to vibrate. As the quartz crystal vibrates, it temporarilly changes from a non-conducting state, to a conducting state.
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Crystals! There ya go, Kilick, more ammo for ya!
 
Kilik said:
I think they can allow long distance communication that way, by taking electricity, converting it to high fequency radio or tv waves, then sending it out in the air, and then reconverting the signals again

The power level of a computer of game system like PS2, I think is based on the rate of vibration of it's CPU
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You think? Why don't you look it up? Because you'd realize you were wrong? This is just a vapid misunderstanding of technology.
 
Normaly missue of words such and energy and vibration are involved. If they want to appear with it they will use the word quantum.
 
Taffer said:
It's got nothing to do with vibration, Kilik.
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Kilik is right on this one. Not only is it vibration, but even "vibrating crystals" :eye-poppi that regulate a processor speed. Quartz crystals are piezoelectric, which means, as Kilik said, that changing their shape produces voltage, and applying voltage changes their shape. So electricity can make them vibrate, which is useful for things like watches. The CPU uses quartz crystals the same way a watch does. The vibration from the crystal regulates the "clock speed" of the CPU. This makes sure that the operations of the CPU don't get ahead of themselves and cause it to overheat. :cool:
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Kilik is right on this one. Not only is it vibration, but even "vibrating crystals" :eye-poppi that regulate a processor speed. Quartz crystals are piezoelectric, which means, as Kilik said, that changing their shape produces voltage, and applying voltage changes their shape. So electricity can make them vibrate, which is useful for things like watches. The CPU uses quartz crystals the same way a watch does. The vibration from the crystal regulates the "clock speed" of the CPU. This makes sure that the operations of the CPU don't get ahead of themselves and cause it to overheat. :cool:
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Except that Kilik said "power level". Perhaps it's just sloppy language, but to me it betrays his poor understanding of both computers and power.

Sorry to be so harsh, Kilik, but it sounds like a mystic attribution.
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Kilik is right on this one. Not only is it vibration, but even "vibrating crystals" :eye-poppi that regulate a processor speed. Quartz crystals are piezoelectric, which means, as Kilik said, that changing their shape produces voltage, and applying voltage changes their shape. So electricity can make them vibrate, which is useful for things like watches. The CPU uses quartz crystals the same way a watch does. The vibration from the crystal regulates the "clock speed" of the CPU. This makes sure that the operations of the CPU don't get ahead of themselves and cause it to overheat. :cool:
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He said "the powers" is to do with vibrations, which it is not. The clock speed is regulated by a vibrating crystal, yes, but not the actual "power" of the CPU.
 
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