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How disrespectful can truthers be?

Gotta love this.

Any other movement in the world, if they had something like this happen you'd hear something like: "We abhor these actions, and want to emphatically state that they do not represent our cause or members. We hope that the perpetrator of this action is brought to justice"

The Truth movement: "Wedidn'tdoit, nobodysawusdoit, youcan'tproveanying, maybeYOUdidit,huh,huh? HUH!"
 
Originally Posted by SteveAustin

This wouldn't be the first time for what could be called "false flag vandalism", this is actually quite common where someone tries to frame someone else for a crime.
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Too funny.

I actually thought somebody made this up for a laugh, I didn't realise it had been said in all seriousness.
 
Shalamar said:
No. Not all truthers are terrorists. But it seems that many are indeed so.
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Meh. I don't think so. They certainly have a lot in common with terrorists, especially their supremely flawed view of the world, but I can't imagine any of them terrorizing anyone, except maybe a handicapped person.
 
This is false flag vandalism and I have the proof. Just do a Google search for "Operation Northwoods".
 
The Steve Austin on this thread seems to be really stone cold (ha play on words). He has yet, repeat, yet to condemn the defacing. I think regardless of who did it, he is secretly happy.
 
wow
i cannot believe the bawls on some people
its called circumstantial evidence
and i have more
moron

you see the outline of a sign here to the right of the "LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE" sign with a little blue showing? (torn)
insidedisgrace.jpg

guess what that (rule10)ing said?
"911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB"
and there wasnt 1 there was 2
DOT would take those down (a few times those came down and showed back up)
the picture above was cropped and enlarged
here is the original shot
insideorig.jpg


i cant believe you came in here looking for "evidence" like it was a thread for debate
that alone made you look like a fool
at least roundhead showed a bit of humanity and it seemed like he understood the subject (after a few posts) at hand by making a quick simple statement on how he felt it was very wrong
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4763712&postcount=39
i respect that

(IMO) you are a self centered (rule10) who has no respect for anything, especially for those lost on 9/11
 
SteveAustin said:
Now there is the proof...oh wait no, still no proof.
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All we did was ask why twoofers don't condemn such vandalism. You know, Just Asking Questions? Surely we don't require PROOF to Just Ask Questions?
 
SteveAustin said:
So if I do not come out in this very thread and condemn it by default I support it right. Is that what you are implying? I ask because others here have come right out and said that.
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No, I am not accusing you of supporting the defacement of the memorial. I point out though that you completely passed over that part of the OP and concentrated instead on a crusade to defend the TM which you suggest may be innocent of this deed.



What is disrespectful is to use the vandalism of the memorial as an excuse to verbally assault "truthers". There is no proof that "truthers" did it but lacking this proof has not stopped you or many others from jumping in here and verbally attacking ALL "truthers". If there was proof that a "truther" committed the vandalism you might have a leg to stand on, but as there is no proof all you should be doing is condemning the act itself. PERIOD

You know what they say about assumptions right? Well this is an assumption based on what you want to believe. The probability of this vandalism having been committed by a "truther" is equal to it having been committed by a "debunker" and equal to it having been committed by "anyone".
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Au contraire, the OP, IIRC also included other examples of definitive use of that slogan during a memorial service. That is, IMHO, in some ways worse than the defacing of a standing memorial(though the later is more cowardly). What did the people attending do to deserve the disruption?

In fact such disruption indicates a definite willingness on the part of some 'truthers' to use that slogan at, or on, anything.

Given then that there is definitive evidence that some in the TM are willing and able to commit acts very similar to this paint job and no evidence whatsoever that it was done by any debunker, other than your desire to loyaly defend the TM, we can indeed conclude with little doubt, that a member of the TM did it.


The slogan "9/11 was an inside job" is standard fare for the truth movement and if a "debunker" wanted to try and defame the character of 9/11 truth activists then why not vandalize a 9/11 memorial and make it look like a "truther". Note here again I am not saying this is what happened, however I have seen "debunkers" do similar things first hand in front of my eyes.
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Absolute, pure, and unadulterated speculation on your part despite the examples that members of the TM do in fact commit similar acts.
 
Only a complete jackass would assert that the vandalism of the memorial on Staten island was a false flag operation.


  1. the truth movement is not that important for a debumker to risk getting caught defacing a memorial
  2. a debunker would have too much compassion to deface a 9/11 memorial
  3. truthers have a track record of assaults
  4. truthers have a track record public disturbances
  5. truthers have a track record accusing innocents of complicity
  6. truthers have a track record of showing disrespect for authority
  7. truthers have a track record of defacing flags for example
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A W Smith said:
Only a complete jackass would assert that the vandalism of the memorial on Staten island was a false flag operation.
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the upside-down flag is a pretty good statement in protest by itself
(a flag flown upside down is a signal for help, which is pretty symbolic in protest i think)
no need to deface the flag
thats just outright disrespect
a big sign of hatred toward the US
they should have just burned it at that point

I hate when i see uniforms with the American flag on the wrong shoulder or on vehicles the wrong way
the stars should always be oriented like the flag was on a pole flowing in the wind
when you move forward the stripes flow behind
symbolizes "moving forward"
and people forget that a flag has 2 sides

if you ever noticed and wondered why the US military had backwards flags on the right shoulder
this is the reason (symbolic), cause its not backwards its just the other side of the flag

when its wrong it can be taken as moving backwards
another sign of disrespect
i had my company return an entire batch of uniforms cause of that (about 150 shirts and about 20 jackets)​
 
Makes me sick. Men and women have given their lives to protect the freedoms that allow them to do that.
 
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