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How did things get this bad?

Well - Obama won. I have a feeling the genocide of Christians hasn't arrived yet?
 
After the end doesn't come you will have a chance to talk to your sisters. Tell them that all of the prophets of doom were wrong. Then ask them to consider what else they might be wrong about.

Maybe a lightbulb will go on, maybe it won't. At least you will have tried.
 
To address the OP, it's clear to me we haven't had enough human sacrifice lately. ;)
 
I'm more worried about how my sisters are taking it.
Do they trust you, look up to you? If so, can you talk to them, rationally, just saying that not everything that your mom tells them is true, that sometimes she can be wrong about something? Not undermining her authority, but just that she's human and can make mistakes. Explain to them how most people believe Obama is a good man and will keep us safe.
 
To address the OP, it's clear to me we haven't had enough human sacrifice lately. ;)

Considering that you may be ignorant of the fact that you're joking about sacrificing my family...I'm going to ignore this remark.

Do they trust you, look up to you? If so, can you talk to them, rationally, just saying that not everything that your mom tells them is true, that sometimes she can be wrong about something? Not undermining her authority, but just that she's human and can make mistakes. Explain to them how most people believe Obama is a good man and will keep us safe.

My sisters, especially the older one, absolutely hate my guts. Certain members of my family have a done a great job of painting me as an ignorant moron and a godless blasphemer. For example; the other day the older one informed me of her protest at a school assembly in which the students elected the President-Elect and she and her friends stood up and started chanting "No more anti-Christ wins". When she told me about this, rather proud of herself, I informed her of a verse in the bible which seemed to state that Obama isn't the anti-Christ because he is married with two little girls. She responded by essentially calling me a liar and telling me I can't tell her about the bible because I "believe in evolution and the big bang and I don't know what its like to believe in God". And when I attempted to protest such sentiments she screamed "I believe in the bible not you" and then informed me that she wouldn't care if I died.

Essentially nothing I say will really make a difference. I have some hopes for the younger one who reminds me so much of myself. Hence the reason why I'm still sticking around, because I have a feeling in middle school she's going to start going through some very tough times about her religion.
 
Considering that you may be ignorant of the fact that you're joking about sacrificing my family...I'm going to ignore this remark.
I'm pretty sure the Old Ones would approve. Or most likely, simply not care.

My sisters, especially the older one, absolutely hate my guts. Certain members of my family have a done a great job of painting me as an ignorant moron and a godless blasphemer.
*Resists a "contradiction" joke there.*

For example; the other day the older one informed me of her protest at a school assembly in which the students elected the President-Elect and she and her friends stood up and started chanting "No more anti-Christ wins". When she told me about this, rather proud of herself, I informed her of a verse in the bible which seemed to state that Obama isn't the anti-Christ because he is married with two little girls. She responded by essentially calling me a liar and telling me I can't tell her about the bible because I "believe in evolution and the big bang and I don't know what its like to believe in God".
As opposed to asking for a passage from the bible where you got the information. Nice.

And when I attempted to protest such sentiments she screamed "I believe in the bible not you" and then informed me that she wouldn't care if I died.
Ah, not caring that your siblings die. How very... CHRISTIAN... of her.

Wait, no. Wasn't Christ a bit different than that? Hm, I wouldn't know; I believe too much in evolution to know what the Bible says Christ said! D:

Essentially nothing I say will really make a difference. I have some hopes for the younger one who reminds me so much of myself. Hence the reason why I'm still sticking around, because I have a feeling in middle school she's going to start going through some very tough times about her religion.
NOTE: Lonewulf's advice is made as an only child, no experience with siblings, and with little knowledge of your own relationship with your younger sister. Keep this in mind when reading the following.

Best thing I can suggest is to tell her to actually read the bible. As much of it as she can.

Talking to her about how evil Christianity is will probably set you apart from her as "The Other". Encourage her to ask questions when she can, though.

Alternatively, engage with her in other things as well, but encourage her to ask questions and learn.

That's the best advice I could give anyone.
 
Considering that you may be ignorant of the fact that you're joking about sacrificing my family...I'm going to ignore this remark.



My sisters, especially the older one, absolutely hate my guts. Certain members of my family have a done a great job of painting me as an ignorant moron and a godless blasphemer. For example; the other day the older one informed me of her protest at a school assembly in which the students elected the President-Elect and she and her friends stood up and started chanting "No more anti-Christ wins". When she told me about this, rather proud of herself, I informed her of a verse in the bible which seemed to state that Obama isn't the anti-Christ because he is married with two little girls. She responded by essentially calling me a liar and telling me I can't tell her about the bible because I "believe in evolution and the big bang and I don't know what its like to believe in God". And when I attempted to protest such sentiments she screamed "I believe in the bible not you" and then informed me that she wouldn't care if I died.

Essentially nothing I say will really make a difference. I have some hopes for the younger one who reminds me so much of myself. Hence the reason why I'm still sticking around, because I have a feeling in middle school she's going to start going through some very tough times about her religion.


I would suggest that you look hard at subjects and not just believe. It seems this forum is largely religionists vs atheists with their individual creeds and fighting points. Frankly, the arguments on here are largely made by people on both sides claiming to be authorities who don't even understand the very basics of what they are talking about. I have been tested with an IQ of 147 (Minimal compared to all the wiseacres on here). So what? It's just a damn test score and it proves that I can do well on a standardized test. I may not be able to wipe my ass, but I can outscore 99% of the people on a test. Man, do I feel great (not really). The Big Bang gets promoted as if it's fact, when the fact is that there are many reputable AUTHORITIES that dispute it:

John L. West, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of
Technology (USA)

James F. Woodward, California State University, Fullerton (USA)

Halton Arp, Max-Planck-Institute Fur Astrophysik (Germany)

Andre Koch Torres Assis, State University of Campinas (Brazil)

Yuri Baryshev, Astronomical Institute, St. Petersburg State University
(Russia)

Ari Brynjolfsson, Applied Radiation Industries (USA)

Hermann Bondi, Churchill College, University of Cambridge (UK)

Timothy Eastman, Plasmas International (USA)

Chuck Gallo, Superconix, Inc.(USA)

Thomas Gold, Cornell University (emeritus) (USA)

Someone will reply and say that you can find support from reputable sources for anything and that is largely true. The bottom line is that no one has all truth and one needs to fully understand the issues/arguments before making a decision with the realization that a Galileo with the lone dissenting vote may be right. So, if you understand the Big Bang (which will take some work - remember the term "red shift") and still believe it, fine, but for you to just believe it is not different that your family just believing.
 
Well - Obama won. I have a feeling the genocide of Christians hasn't arrived yet?

Of course not. If the forces of the anti-Christ killed all the Christians now, they'd all go to heaven. First he's going to try to turn them away from god by pressuring them to engage in homosexuality, convert to Wicca, and have abortions. Plus he doesn't get sworn in until January 20.
 
REgarding the OP I would suggest first and foremost putting some distance between your self and these people, not geographical distance necessarily but some kind of space. You seem as though you have done this to some degree already. Threats of physical violence are a definite "deal breaker" as Dr Phil might say, but still you must guage how seriously to take such things. As far as changing their minds goes I don't see it happening by using christian principles to highlight the error of their interpretation of the scriptures.

IF people were worried about Obama giving blacks a free ride, or making reparations for slavery mandatory, I would remind them that the President can't really do anything without the support of his party, and legislation must pass through the congress? Senate? (excuse my ignorance on the workings of US govt.). Surely the Senators and Congressman would be able to stop the anti-christ even if he/she did manage to get elected?
 
IF people were worried about Obama giving blacks a free ride, or making reparations for slavery mandatory, I would remind them that the President can't really do anything without the support of his party, and legislation must pass through the congress? Senate? (excuse my ignorance on the workings of US govt.).

Both the House of Representatives and Senate. Congress is comprised of both houses, but many Americans use "congressman" to mean "representative".


Surely the Senators and Congressman would be able to stop the anti-christ even if he/she did manage to get elected?


Not if they're in league with the forces of darkness themselves. The Democrats have a majority in both houses, and it's well known that Democrats are anti-god socialists who want to negotiate with terrorists.











(that last sentence is sarcasm)
 
Coveting things can certainly lead (?) the coveter to do harm to himself or others.

And coveting things can also lead to hard work and determination. The act of coveting is not evil in any rational sense of the word.
 
Fundie on FSTDT said:
I reacted the exact same way when I saw the Fox headline. Uncontrollable sobbing. I ran to the toilet dry heaving. Then I prayed for us to go home. My husband is not yet saved. We need to pray!
Is it just his skin colour, or is it something more? I mean, all this bullocks has to come out of... somewhere.
 
You see all sins as evil. As I said earlier, evil is best defined as actions that harm unwilling participants. Thus murder is evil (and is a Christian sin). Slavery is also evil (but is not a Christian sin). Coveting things is not evil (but is a Christain sin). I'll agree that many Christians define homosexuality as a sin, but I see no reason to consider it evil.

I do hope you'll see that calling homosexuality evil is the type of bigotry that prevents the US from making progress in the 21st century.
No Ladewig I turned from my sin when Jesus showed me it, and sexual sins are the absolute worse as it is said in scripture to be a sin against our own bodies. All sin is falling short of the mark, we were made to have a relationship with God, and to give God glory! Unfortunately many are still seperated from God because they do not accept the Messiah. Jesus is the only way back to the Father.

And God made one man and one woman, and it is ultimately God who ordained marriage and told us what marriage and sex is to be, one man and one woman. I can never say sexual sin is okay and I myself was gulity of some of those past sexual sins myself. Most of us have had sex outside of marriage and God still calls it's fornication or we leave one spouse for another and it is still called adultery. I myself left & tried to divorce my husband and get remarried to another man until God convicted me of my sin and showed me it was adultery in his eyes then I repented and was reconciled with my husband. Do you think it's easy for me to admit this? It is absolutely not and I still suffer some consequences from the emotional damage I did to myself and others, but God has faithfully forgiven me and is restoring me each day as I learn to follow him. The straight and narrow road is not an easy road to follow, but I am on it now and won't make excuses for a life of sin I once led, it it was not God's best for me and it's not what's best for any of us. Jesus forgives our sin, but he does not say it's okay to do abuse grace, or not repent and keep living a life of sin.
 
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