How Cool Is Jimmy Carter!

Sword_Of_Truth said:
And if I may be so bold as to shift this thread back on topic; how the hell is anyone supposed to think that Jimmy Carter is actually serious about standing up for the rights of women while he shills for radical islam?

Has Jimmeh ever condemned honor killings? Has he apologized for supporting Hamas or it's parent organization The Muslim Brotherhood (which also founded Al-Queada)?
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Jimmy Carter has not endorsed or supported Hamas, and it is dishonest in the extreme to claim that he has.
 
Cleon said:
Jimmy Carter has not endorsed or supported Hamas, and it is dishonest in the extreme to claim that he has.
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Of course, he has. Carter legitimzed Hamas's election. His latest antics are trying to get the US State Dep't to remove Hamas from the list of terrorist organizations, despite Hamas's steadfast refusal to renounce violence and terrorism and accept Israel's right to exist.
 
Ah, come on. Even Hitler had a girlfriend. There's a lid for every pot.
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linusrichard said:
Best. Godwin. Ever.
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Droll it was.

However, political power is an aphrodasiac. Of course he had a girl friend. From what I recall of Adolf's younger life, the "chicks dig Beer Hall Putschers" line didn't catch on until after he was in a position of power. I may have overlooked, or not read the right bits, of his early romantic life.

Hmm, Beer Hall Putsch easily morphs into Beer Hall Pu--

***Voice of Reason interrupts***

-- don't go there, Darth, really, just don't go there.

@ Mark: the anger thing is self-destructive. Trust me on this one, I've walked a few miles in those shoes. The only person who can stop the inner pain is you. My first step was taking an anger management course. As you can see from some of my posts on JREF, it isn't all the way gone. I was also a bit lucky to fall into a profession I enjoyed. Didn't run into job hate until late in life.

You might say I am a life long recovering Angerholic.

I'd not wish that on anyone.

DR
 
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Marc39 said:
Of course, he has. Carter legitimzed Hamas's election. His latest antics are trying to get the US State Dep't to remove Hamas from the list of terrorist organizations, despite Hamas's steadfast refusal to renounce violence and terrorism and accept Israel's right to exist.
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None of which involves "endorsing and supporting Hamas," any more than Nixon's trip to China was an endorsement of Mao Tse-Tung.
 
Cleon said:
None of which involves "endorsing and supporting Hamas," any more than Nixon's trip to China was an endorsement of Mao Tse-Tung.
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What color is the sky on your world? You got caught making a bogus claim and got nailed on it.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Jimmeh Carter specifically endorsed and supported Hamas. You lied and said he didn't and got caught.
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He did not specifically endorse and/or support Hamas, I didn't lie, and you certainly didn't catch me. Saying the same thing over and over again won't help your case any.

Deal with it.
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Now that's convincing! :rolleyes:
 
Cleon said:
He did not specifically endorse and/or support Hamas, I didn't lie, and you certainly didn't catch me.
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Yes he did. He's called for Hamas to be removed from the official list of terrorist groups. He said they can be trusted. These are specific statements of support and endorsement. You not only lied but you went and called me a liar. As if you didn't think I could google "Carter" and "Hamas" at the same time.

You are the one who is being "dishonest in the extreme" here.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
Yes he did. He's called for Hamas to be removed from the official list of terrorist groups. He said they can be trusted. These are specific statements of support and endorsement.
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No, they're not, and insisting that they are over and over again won't make them so. They are attempts at opening a dialogue. You may disagree with Carter, but that's no more "support and endorsement" than Nixon "supported and endorsed" Mao.

You not only lied but you went and called me a liar. As if you didn't think I could google "Carter" and "Hamas" at the same time.

You are the one who is being "dishonest in the extreme" here.
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No. But keep repeating yourself, maybe reality will change. Though I rather doubt it.
 
Cleon said:
You may disagree with Carter, but that's no more "support and endorsement" than Nixon "supported and endorsed" Mao.
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Nixon? I didn't mention Nixon.

What's that called again when you attempt to extrapolate something I didn't say from what I did and attack that?
 
Cleon said:
No, they're not, and insisting that they are over and over again won't make them so. They are attempts at opening a dialogue. You may disagree with Carter, but that's no more "support and endorsement" than Nixon "supported and endorsed" Mao.
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A one-sided dialogue. It is morally outrageous for Carter to push for Hamas to be declared a legitimate member of the international community while not establishing preconditions with Hamas that they recognize Israel's right to exist and renounce violence.
 
Cleon said:
He did not specifically endorse and/or support Hamas, I didn't lie, and you certainly didn't catch me. Saying the same thing over and over again won't help your case any.



Now that's convincing! :rolleyes:
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Carter pressuring Obama to strip Hamas of its terrorist classification when Hamas has not renounced terrorism is endorsing Hamas and supporting Hamas.
 
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