How Can We Arrange a Debate?

Jaguar said:
I agree.

The problem with the traitors, who parrot the official lie, is that they just take individual claims and muddy the waters on them a bit. Then they run round the blogs claiming they pwned someone and debunked everything they said.

These misfits have no concept of a bigger picture. Webster Tarpley would make mincemeat of them.
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Now all you have to do is persuade Tarpley, who was last seen running like hell.
 
I would like to see a debate between Gravy and Childlike Empress.

(C'mon, 'fess up guys: so would you.)
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
He would in a discussion, not a debate. He would talk about the "shadow government, the secret team, the rogue network," and could lecture them for 3 hours straight about it, but they would want to get down to acetylene torches and such.
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Actually, I would remind him that he is a fringe crackpot who makes up his "facts." He would have the problem common to all conspiracy, namely, producing real evidence for his fantasies.
 
Miragememories said:
Surely you mean spin guide?

MM
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Yet more substance from MM.

Tell me, MM, what evidence have you actually offered to the debate here in your 300+ posts?

Just bung a few of your own posts/quotes up here, if only to prove me wrong.

Over to you ....
 
Stellafane said:
I would like to see a debate between Gravy and Childlike Empress.

(C'mon, 'fess up guys: so would you.)
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Again, the person in my avatar is not me, it is Anna Karina.

@pomeroo: Why is it that Sander Hicks is, regardless of how strange you think his opinions are, less interesting to you for a debate than the con artist Rob Balsamo? What are you trying to achieve with your show?
 
Jaguar said:
Ah yes, Mrs Beamer, she really has milked the teat of 911 till it's dry hasn't she. Im sure she would love the extra publicity of Hardfire.

I'm sure Griffin woul;d be simply perplexed by this kind offer of debate by a Tour Guide. That's all he is. One who knows how to deny things.

Ron has no intention of inviting Griffin on. He claimed he couldn't find contact details. I found them on google in 30 seconds.
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Griffin just has hearsay. Supporting the lies of Griffin. Not good. Griffin, the worse kind of CTist, the one who profits from what others say, staying safe behind the lies of others. Griffin, no clue, no ideas, not a fact in any of his hearsay 9/11 books. Go buy one and be a good CTer.
 
pomeroo said:
This is fabulous! As an example of how a paranoid mind can turn reality upside down, this one's hard to top. Not only was Goldwater close with JFK on a personal level, but he thought he could beat him in 1964. After the assassination, Goldwater was ready to drop out of the race. He detested Lyndon Johnson, who he regarded as a dirty campaigner. Furthermore, he knew that the country would never accept three different Presidents within a year and a half. JFK's death ruined Goldwater as a national figure.
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The funny thing is that Johnson considered dropping out of the race too--it was in those tapes that were released a few years back. Goldwater would have had a tough time beating Kennedy, though Kennedy's ghost turned out to be even tougher.
 
beachnut said:
Griffin just has hearsay. Supporting the lies of Griffin. Not good. Griffin, the worse kind of CTist, the one who profits from what others say, staying safe behind the lies of others. Griffin, no clue, no ideas, not a fact in any of his hearsay 9/11 books. Go buy one and be a good CTer.
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At the risk of being nominated for a stundie, or one of the other awards here at the board, can I ask you Beachnut, to please make a post that does not contain the word "fact?" Please? Just once, so I can see if you are capable of it.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
At the risk of being nominated for a stundie, or one of the other awards here at the board, can I ask you Beachnut, to please make a post that does not contain the word "fact?" Please? Just once, so I can see if you are capable of it.
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Stundie indeed.

"Hey man, what's with all the facts?"
 
Jaguar said:
I'm sure Griffin woul;d be simply perplexed by this kind offer of debate by a Tour Guide. That's all he is. One who knows how to deny things.
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Yes, that's what we do in the tourism industry. "Of course you don't recognize this. It isn't the famous Radio City Music Hall."

And I shouldn't be likewise "perplexed" by this theologian's 9/11 expertise...because?

Well, Jaguar? Is it about the person, or about the information they have?
 
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I would love to see Griffin vs Gravy. It would make my day/week/however long I re-watch it for.

If worst comes to worst, try to get Rosie on :p If not, try to get Gravy on the view :D
 
Childlike Empress said:
He will tell you that a lot of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories are not based on facts but the official version is bogus and the mass murder of this day hasn't been thoroughly investigated. And he will provide facts to backup his opinion.
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Yes, he will tell us these things. Facts are exactly what he doesn't have. He's just a paranoid credophile on the margins of the "truth" movement. Childlike, you rely on absolutely horrid sources of information.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
If you guys want to take on a 20-something student, forget Avery and Bermas. Daniel Abrahamson of False Flag News is far more informed and eloquent.
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Abrahamson: vaccinations bad! Antiterrorism drills bad! Military exercises bad! GM foods bad!

Ugh.

Mike Berger would be great. He's the head of a major "truth" organization and he make lots of specific claims of fact, rather than relying on spooky insinuations.
 
CHF said:
I will dontate $250 to fund a plane ticket for either Fetzer or Griffin to travel to NYC to get butchered in a debate by Mark Roberts.

100% serious.
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You'd give that idiot Fetzer 250 buckeroos?

I'm at least half the idiot Fetzer is, do you think that maybe?...

Send To:

ConspiRaiders of the Lost Talk
1234 Schmooze Lane, Suite Deal
HollywoodLand, CA 911
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
At the risk of being nominated for a stundie, or one of the other awards here at the board, can I ask you Beachnut, to please make a post that does not contain the word "fact?" Please? Just once, so I can see if you are capable of it.
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Yeah, it irritates the heck out of me too, SCG.

Please make Beachnut stop!

I implore you. I don't want to hear it anymore.

Give him some facts and make him shut his mouth.
 
The Doc said:
I would love to see Griffin vs Gravy. It would make my day/week/however long I re-watch it for.

If worst comes to worst, try to get Rosie on :p If not, try to get Gravy on the view :D
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I'm telling you guys; nobody will debate Gravy, because they don't want to become part of his next avatar, with that creepy hand thing happening in their face!

Which makes me think; Alex Jones versus Gravy!! But with no audio! Just the visual, with all the hand gestures would be priceless!

(Better bring your megaphone, Gravy).
 
Actually, a "truth" site put up its 2006 media awards, and they said in all sincerity that a video of me at Ground Zero should be watched with the sound off, to study my body language.

The problem for the "truth" movement, SCG, isn't our body language. It's our knowledge. Try to focus on that.

Fair enough?
 
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Jaguar said:
Griffin is Co-Director of The Center for Process Studies

You can email them here

ctr4process.org/contact.shtml

Or write here:

The Center for Process Studies
1325 North College Ave.
Claremont, CA 91711

Or Phone here

Phone: (909) 621-5330

Or Fax here

Fax: (909) 621-2760
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I think I'll have some fun with this.

DR
 
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