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How about the gift of Stundie for December?

Travis

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Well this is the thread to do it all in.

Don't forget the links.

Happy holidays all.
 
Old Mr. Icke Had a Farm, e-i-e-o

Another offering from our favorite Delusional Idiots. This is in a "heliocentric" thread titled "The Earth is NOT Moving."

Yes, and we experience this either because the atmosphere is magically velcroed to a perfectly uniform spinning Earth (as you say) OR because the Earth is at rest (as I say). I have linked to half a dozen repeatable conclusive scientific experiments proving the Earth is at rest. Most of you in the thread keep going on about astronomical motions, Coriolis, pendulums and theoretical "higher" mathematics, all of which are irrelevant to the issue of determining Earth's motion or lack of motion.

(emphasis added)

Summary: evidence of a fact is irrelevant to determining the fact.
 
Another offering from our favorite Delusional Idiots. This is in a "heliocentric" thread titled "The Earth is NOT Moving."



(emphasis added)

Summary: evidence of a fact is irrelevant to determining the fact.

What the hell did I just read? Is this person seriously supporting a heliocentric model?
 
It's very windy today...

From that same thread, comes this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061171311&postcount=240
"Exactly. If the Earth is spinning beneath us, why can't I just hover in a helicopter, wait until my destination reaches me, and then land when it comes? Most people answer (though they can't explain how) that this is because the Earth's atmosphere supposedly rotates precisely along with the Earth. But if that's the case then heliocentric dogmatists run into a whole other host of problems. For instance, if both the Earth and its atmosphere are spinning 1,000 miles per hour West to East, then why don't pilots need to make 1,000 mph compensation acceleration when flying East to West? If thousand mile per hour atmosphere is constantly flowing Eastward, why don't North/South bound pilots have to set diagonal courses to compensate? If thousand mile per hour atmosphere is constantly flowing Eastward, how do you explain the casual yet unpredictable movement of clouds, wind patterns and weather formations every which way? If the atmosphere is constantly being pulled along with the Earth's rotation, then why can I feel the slightest Westward breeze but not the Earth's 1,000 mile per hour Eastward spin?"


:jaw-dropp

I'm not entirely sure this is a stundie but it sure is dumb. I didn't know which bit to highlight.
 
Another offering from our favorite Delusional Idiots. This is in a "heliocentric" thread titled "The Earth is NOT Moving."



(emphasis added)

Summary: evidence of a fact is irrelevant to determining the fact.


Did anybody mention gyrocompasses? Put a weight on the inner gimbal of a gyroscope and the rotation of the Earth will cause the gyro to precess until the spin axis of the gyro is horizontal and pointing to true north. Every commercial and military ship and aircraft use gyrocompasses to find true north. Tell the crackpots to Google "north-seeking gyrocompass"

The gyrocompass is also a good argument against the pole shift nuts.
 
From that same thread, comes this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061171311&postcount=240
"Exactly. If the Earth is spinning beneath us, why can't I just hover in a helicopter, wait until my destination reaches me, and then land when it comes? Most people answer (though they can't explain how) that this is because the Earth's atmosphere supposedly rotates precisely along with the Earth. But if that's the case then heliocentric dogmatists run into a whole other host of problems. For instance, if both the Earth and its atmosphere are spinning 1,000 miles per hour West to East, then why don't pilots need to make 1,000 mph compensation acceleration when flying East to West? If thousand mile per hour atmosphere is constantly flowing Eastward, why don't North/South bound pilots have to set diagonal courses to compensate? If thousand mile per hour atmosphere is constantly flowing Eastward, how do you explain the casual yet unpredictable movement of clouds, wind patterns and weather formations every which way? If the atmosphere is constantly being pulled along with the Earth's rotation, then why can I feel the slightest Westward breeze but not the Earth's 1,000 mile per hour Eastward spin?"


:jaw-dropp

I'm not entirely sure this is a stundie but it sure is dumb. I didn't know which bit to highlight.

That looks familiar, I think it's been brought up here before.
 
Stupidity seems to be contagious. I love the way that guy gives it the big heigh-ho, thinking nobody can explain this brain stuttering 'observation':eye-poppi

The stupidity comes in and the stupidity goes out and nobody can explain that.
 
That looks familiar, I think it's been brought up here before.

I was thinking the same thing

Thank you Stacko for that 'especially' enlightening post. yes, it brings back memories. I wonder if the Icke poster is the same guy. Or is it just my wishful thinking that there can't possibly be two people that idiotic spinning around (or not according to him) our magnificent globe.
 
Why does a Kiwi know so much about air traffic management over the USA?
You're not really from New Zealand,are you?
Well it does seem a rather odd thing that a kiwi would care so much about an American 'terrorist' attack. Since it's well known that kiwi's aren't terribly fond of Americans (cousins though we may be)....

FrankHT knows a lot about New Zealand.
 
I was thinking the same thing


Thank you Stacko for that 'especially' enlightening post. yes, it brings back memories. I wonder if the Icke poster is the same guy. Or is it just my wishful thinking that there can't possibly be two people that idiotic spinning around (or not according to him) our magnificent globe.

Wishful thing. Seeing how the new guy doesn't have that annoyingly impolite habit of replying above the text he's replying to.
 
That looks familiar, I think it's been brought up here before.
One of the funny things about such a viewpoint is that it requires everyday things like viscosity to not work. If an airplane traveling east at the Equator would encounter 1,000 mph headwinds, as poor Especially insisted, than airplanes themselves would be unable to fly - airplane wings wouldn't generate lift. Well, a lot of things wouldn't work, but that's one glaring example. This was pointed out to him, but like pretty much everything else, he ignored it.

Why are conspiracists - and such a viewpoint requires much of the modern world to be a conspiracy - so much less observant of the world around them than the average person?
 
Why are conspiracists - and such a viewpoint requires much of the modern world to be a conspiracy - so much less observant of the world around them than the average person?
I'd reverse that and note that those whom are so much less observant of the world around them seem more likely to be conspiracists?
 
One of the funny things about such a viewpoint is that it requires everyday things like viscosity to not work. If an airplane traveling east at the Equator would encounter 1,000 mph headwinds, as poor Especially insisted, than airplanes themselves would be unable to fly - airplane wings wouldn't generate lift. Well, a lot of things wouldn't work, but that's one glaring example. This was pointed out to him, but like pretty much everything else, he ignored it.

Why are conspiracists - and such a viewpoint requires much of the modern world to be a conspiracy - so much less observant of the world around them than the average person?



I don't think this is an issue of them being less observant, but if them being incapable of recognizing the necessary implications of their claims. We see it in the 9/11 truthers who insist that explosives caused multi-ton steel beams to be flung through the air, but then complain when we point out that their hypothesis would require huge amounts of explosives.
 
Yowzers. Dredging that old thread up brought me back to this page.

http://www.fixedearth.com/

Which led to this gem.

Fact: The Copernican Revolution torpedoed Bible credibility and paved the way for the Darwinian Revolution over 300 years later. Fact: The success of Copernicanism established theory over observation in the sciences of mathematics and astronomy. Fact: That success paved the way for establishing theory over observation in the bio-chemical sciences through Darwinism. Both of these factless theories torpedoed the Bible's credibility, BUT, only by attacking the Copernican foundation of Space Science's Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm can the evolution myth be revealed and destroyed.

http://www.fixedearth.com/May 2012 Bulletin Chr.to win must....htm
 

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