Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 2

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Childlike Empress said:
We in the evidence-based community reject both your fanaticism and your foul-mouthed promotion of make-believe.
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Nothing foul about using logic. I stand by my post that someone would have to be dumb as a post to believe Zelensky was uninformed.

We KNOW Ukraine officials knew as they had been inquiring as to its status.
 
acbytesla said:
Nothing foul about using logic. I stand by my post that someone would have to be dumb as a post to believe Zelensky was uninformed.

We KNOW Ukraine officials knew as they had been inquiring as to its status.
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Ukrainian officials "knew" beforehand about something Trump ordered ninety minutes after the phone call? Look up logic on wikipedia, pal.

Unlike Sid's explanation which has logic although doesn't include "quid pro quo" or "extortion" threats by your favorite president, just keeping options on the table, your musings are beyond anything logic to someone who doesn't introduce MSNBC talking heads with the premise "it's not biased". LOL
 
Childlike Empress said:
Ukrainian officials "knew" beforehand about something Trump ordered ninety minutes after the phone call? Look up logic on wikipedia, pal.

Unlike Sid's explanation which has logic although doesn't include "quid pro quo" or "extortion" threats by your favorite president, just keeping options on the table, your musings are beyond anything logic to someone who doesn't introduce MSNBC talking heads with the premise "it's not biased". LOL
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The point was that the Ukraine had not received the aid. Zelensky was aware of that.

No he was not aware that Trump had it withheld during the call. I'm sure he was aware of the meaning of "I want you to do us a favor though".

As I said, you would have to be a moron to believe that Zelensky was unaware of the status or the implications of Trump's message.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
Pelosi is now blaming Trump for her refusing to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate. it's Mitch's fault, too, according to her.
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Well, she's right.

Actually, it's her neverending lust for power
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What in the devil are you babbling about? She's already speaker of the House and at her age, she can't go any higher.

Speaking of lust for power, how about those 250+ bills that the Senate is sitting on and not passing into law?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Can you explain what the significance is? We know what's in the phone call - no open threats at all but a lot of Zelenksi telling Trump what he wants to hear, if anything Z was a nice little servant. Who knew nothing about the aid being in question. So, it looks to me like it simply was Ukraine day at the White House. How do you think the two things are connected? Why should Trump order the guy to stop the aid immediately after that phone call?
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Yes, one must ask themselves those questions. Hmm.

One could also ask, why was to government trying to keep it secret?
 
acbytesla said:
As I said, you would have to be a moron to believe that Zelensky was unaware of the status or the implications of Trump's message.
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Be fair. He was only the star of a show about corruption who ran for president on an anti-corruption platform. It’s not like he knew anything about corruption./s
 
The Great Zaganza said:
As long as the President operates still close to the political and social norms, Impeachment is indeed political: Clinton was the obvious case for this.
But at some point it has to become a new non-partisan issue.
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How is it a political or social norm to pressure a foreign government to interfere in a US election?
 
Belz... said:
It doesn't seem, at this point, like anyone will be swayed one way or another unless some bombshell new piece of evidence surfaces; and even then.
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Who do you mean by "anyone"? Because as this stuff plays out, one would hope more voters want Trump out. Time will tell.
 
Belz... said:
Well, she's right.



What in the devil are you babbling about? She's already speaker of the House and at her age, she can't go any higher.

Speaking of lust for power, how about those 250+ bills that the Senate is sitting on and not passing into law?
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You seem to have overlooked that lust for power includes not losing power, which in this case means going along with the Squad of Morons and their fellow radicals.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
Hope springs eternal..


I personally, would enjoy four more years of Congress accomplishing nothing, with unprecedented economic growth..
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Huh?

“Economic growth is the increase in the inflation-adjusted market value of the goods and services produced by an economy over time. It is conventionally measured as the percent rate of increase in real gross domestic product, or real GDP.”

We’re currently at about 2.1%, pretty darn anemic historically.
 
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