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Cont: House Impeachment Inquiry - part 2

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The Great Zaganza said:
It's Graham talking about the Clinton Impeachment, and how vital it was to impeach even if the Senate would not convict.
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I wonder if he's watched these clips of his younger self recently. Impeachment is about "cleansing the office." Well said, senator!
 
Horatius said:
Back when I said "We need "So little doubt that even the most corrupt ******** in the Senate finally feel some shame in trying to publicly claim there's still some doubt" levels of evidence", I wasn't just thinking about Senators. That line applies to just about everyone still supporting the Republican Party at this point, which means you.

There's no way you can't honestly see how bad the evidence against Trump is. The problem is, you apparently don't seem to care about that. You're happy playing these stupid reindeer games instead of doing what you know is right. So when I talk about "feel some shame in trying to publicly claim there's still some doubt" levels of evidence, I'm talking about you. These hearing need to continue until there's enough evidence on the table that even you finally throw your hands up and admit Trump needs to go, and needs to go now.
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It's only wrong when the Democrats/liberals/progs/etc do it. Otherwise it's just funny. 'LOL, look how upset the stooopid libs are at Trumps crimes and corruption! LOL!'

I see it all over facebook. They literally do not care, because trump is on 'their side'.
 
theprestige said:
That's so sweet. But what's the point of the impeachment inquiry? Is it just jobsworths doing their jobs?
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Jumping Jesus on a pogo-stick, it is about upholding the Constitution of the United States!

Republicans have abandoned that document
 
mgidm86 said:
Maybe many do try to stay informed. Everyone thinks their news is the correct news, unbiased and all that. It's a minefield of bullcrap.

People may actually believe CNN is still an impartial news source, or FOX. I can't think of a single source that I completely trust. Not even close.

I come here often to hear the "rest of the story" or at least get a few different takes on it. I learn more here than I can at any news site. Still have to sort through the bull ;)

Which of us has the real news and the correct opinions? None of us.
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I agree with you, especially the info I get here. I do read the opposite sides ideas.
We disagree about a lot, but not everything
 
theprestige said:
He didn't seem to get a lot of straight answers either. Setting aside the weird ass Appeal to Lindsay Graham argument for a moment, what's your take? What do you think the House Democrats' endgame actually is?
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Since it's all but certain that the Trumptrash in the Senate won't do their duty to the nation, it seems clear the goal is to get the information in front of the electorate.
 
theprestige said:
He didn't seem to get a lot of straight answers either. Setting aside the weird ass Appeal to Lindsay Graham argument for a moment, what's your take? What do you think the House Democrats' endgame actually is?
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You can't consistently post in bad faith and then act all surprised and hurt that people act as if you're posting in bad faith.

So no, thank you. I'm not interested in playing your games.
 
Minoosh said:
I don't read it much because I don't subscribe, but I see it as valuable because it's also owned by Murdoch. If it reports anything negative about Trump it's much harder for conservatives to write it off as "fake news." The WSJ needs to retain its credibility as a serious news source. Fox News has no such issue.
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This illustrates something I try to say all the time; these are businesses, they rely on their model of truthful reporting making them money.

Fox News does not, it has more of a Weekly World News model of making money.

Why are so many Republicans denying that Capitalism works?
 
theprestige said:
The House Democrats' goal, and whether they're succeeding at it, is probably the most interesting and important issue here.
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The House Democrats’ goal is upholding the Constitution by acting as a check on executive abuse.

Do you agree or disagree with this?
 
theprestige said:
The House Democrats' goal, and whether they're succeeding at it, is probably the most interesting and important issue here.
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Why do you think that?
Would the goal of upholding US law be somehow become invalid if Democrats also would like to win the next election?
 
Minoosh said:
I don't read it much because I don't subscribe, but I see it as valuable because it's also owned by Murdoch. If it reports anything negative about Trump it's much harder for conservatives to write it off as "fake news." The WSJ needs to retain its credibility as a serious news source. Fox News has no such issue.
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The editorials tend to be pro-Trump. For example, a recent editorial argues that the judge's ruling McGahn must testify before Congress has made Congress king and paves the way for partisan harassment of the executive branch.

But the columns are often quite critical of Trump. Peggy Noonan (speechwriter for Reagan) is a good example.
 
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