Horse skin

[Suezoled]

Then, you walk around to the other side of the horse and find the medicine has run out of the corner of his mouth while you weren't watching. Return to your car and get another syringe.

Repeat until you estimate that the horse has received some of the medicine

Oh please. Even a 10 year old girl can worm a horse. Go find a 10 year old girl.

 

[richardm]

Go find a 10 year old girl.

I don't think anyone's ever suggested such a thing to me

 

[popsy]

There is a higher incidence of annoying trouble in veterinary vaccines than human ones, so I wouldn't discount this.

I can only say that I've never encountered a reaction like this, and I'd want to have a bit of a talk with the histopathologist who diagnosed it before issuing the report. It's certainly not a common occurence at all.

Rolfe.

As you know, if something is said in a positive enough voice, it's believable to those who don't know differently.

This year the dog had another spot that was hairless, and I thought "OH NO, he was wrong cause here it is back again and no vaccine to blame." I made an appointment to take her back to the dermo guy and by the time the appt rolled around, I couldn't even find the spot. It apparently was just one of those things that happen when you have 4 busy little dogs. He checked her over and said her skin seemed fine. I questioned him again about the previous diagnosis, could it have been in error? He said that they have a good reputation for getting this stuff right and that he agreed with their findings. Are you at all interested in more information about the findings? I can probably get more info if you're interested.

 

[Rolfe]

The interesting thing about this is that the lesions you reported were not confined to the injection site. Skin reactions at the actual injection site are uncommon, but quite well recognised. Skin reactions elsewhere are a different matter. I just wonder if this was a case of "the bit of skin I had was consistent with a vaccine reaction, so assuming it came from the injection site, I'll say that," without necessarily realising that the distribution was more widespread.

I'm not an expert on dermatology though, so it's really just a case of, if I were to receive a report stating that this was likely to be a vaccine reaction, I'd want to discuss it further with the histopathologist involved.

Rolfe.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I'm sorry Eos! I have no excuse to delay answering your question ...

This is a brand of dewormer

http://www.countrysupply.com/products/sku-BBL07.html

You give one every few months, you rotate the type of dewormer so the bugs don't develop a resistence.
You take the horses' approximate weight, and there's a ring where you can slide the punger to premeasure the dose. You then pop off the cap, and bring the horses's head down to you. You can grab his tongue, and shove the syringe so the medicine goes to the back of his tongue. Then close his mouth and don't let him open it until you actually see him swallow.

That's more information than I ever expected! I wish everyone posted so completely and unambiguously and...

 

[popsy]

The interesting thing about this is that the lesions you reported were not confined to the injection site. Skin reactions at the actual injection site are uncommon, but quite well recognised. Skin reactions elsewhere are a different matter. I just wonder if this was a case of "the bit of skin I had was consistent with a vaccine reaction, so assuming it came from the injection site, I'll say that," without necessarily realising that the distribution was more widespread.

I'm not an expert on dermatology though, so it's really just a case of, if I were to receive a report stating that this was likely to be a vaccine reaction, I'd want to discuss it further with the histopathologist involved.

Rolfe.

Vet took at least 2, and I think 3 samples in all, 1 from other side, and one from her back. All came back consistent...yada, yada. From what I recall, this was not a new experience with the dermo guy. Apparently he's had other patients similar. The good thing is that her hair grew back and, so far, it hasn't happened again.

Different thing entirely, I did have an older toy poodle that would get abcesses at her rabies vacc site. Poor little girl, the first time it happened, I didn't know it was there and patted her on the back and she about fell through the floor.

I'm going to take advantage of your knowledge, if you'll let me. I have a very small Pomeranian (different one) that sneezes when she gets very excited. Vet said probably due to her having such a tiny muzzle and the viscosity of the fluid in her sinuses being the same as in a big dog, that her sinus openings are too small to drain properly. So it gets in her nose and she sneezes. Before you ask, vet didn't know why it happened more when she (dog) is excited. I told dog's breeder what the vet said and she took umbrage, I guess thinking it was a reflection on her breeding practices, and insisted that it has to be an allergic reaction to something the dog is inhaling. Personally, I haven't a clue, but wish something could be done as the itty bitty doggy gets sinus infections fairly often. Has any situation like this ever showed up in your experience?

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Gee whiz popsy, what are feeding those dogs, or bathing them in? I had dogs growing up, and they never had problems like that. Sorry, don't answer that, but my mind boggles.

 

[popsy]

Gee whiz popsy, what are feeding those dogs, or bathing them in? I had dogs growing up, and they never had problems like that. Sorry, don't answer that, but my mind boggles.

When you have a bunch of little bitty dogs, mostly bred just to be little bitty, many qualities are left by the wayside in the quest for more little bittiness. A bad practice. My fault for loving little dogs. Actually I like almost all dogs, just the little ones best. All four of my dogs don't add up to twenty pounds. Now the cats are another story. My husband feeds them and he likes fat cats. They are no particular breeds, a Tabby, a Tuxedo, a lynx-point Siamese cross and Tuxedo silver tabby. She's the only one even halfway slim.

How come you don't have a dog now?

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Our little humble abode is too small, and hubby loves cats, but I'm allergic to cats. Hubby hates small dogs. We tried one once, and the kids body slammed the poor little thing. We also both work and nobody is hardly ever home. A dog groomer took pity on her and we gave her away to the dog groomer. We figure she has it much better now. Sigh.

 

[popsy]

Rolfe, you nailed this one. She had the animal dermo guy out today, and he said, just as you suspected, it's sweet itch.

Second, although it's hard to say without seeing the horse, my suspicion from your description is that the hose is scratching the tail-head. The tail-head, the withers and the mane are the main sites of itching in classic sweet itch.

Rolfe.

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So, are you in an area where sweet itch doesn't occur? (Presence of Culicoides biting flies is a requirement, as far as I recall.) Or does your friend know what sweet itch is well enough to realise that this isn't it?

Apparently, as we've had a very wet winter, the little gnats are much worse this year. Fortunately the weather is likely to be hot and dry for a while, so maybe the poor horse's itch will die down a bit. The vet did prescribe an antihistamine, hydroxyzine, unless it makes the horse too dozy.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I'm grateful for the update popsy.