horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Stout said:
I seem to recall a degree of skepticism that annoyed people when A Rape on Campus came out. There were all sorts of "misogynists" out there doubting the story as reported.
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Yes, and even afterwards, the mysoginists came out in full force:
In light of the findings, Erik Wemple of The Washington Post pronounced the story "a complete crock". In the Columbia Journalism Review, Bill Grueskin called the story "a mess—thinly sourced, full of erroneous assumptions, and plagued by gaping holes in the reporting". The Columbia Journalism Review called the story "this year's media-fail sweepstakes" and the Poynter Institute named it as the "Error of the Year" in journalism.
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Wiki page for A Rape on Campus
 
Stout said:
We also have he police report describing " A white rope draped around his neck" What's up with that description ? I thought we were talking about a proper noose here.
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This was posted before, I think.

Smollett apparently untied the noose when he got home.

IIRC, the noose is visible as he enters the building, but when police arrive, the noose is untied and it's just a piece of rope.
 
Foolmewunz said:
What he's on Twitter? He doesn't even have a blog.

I don't know the guy but when anyone reports what police say, I like to see it attributed and in quotes or later confirmed by said police. Where did he get the info? He's an anchor. Did he do the reporting from old connections when he used to do the police beat? Or did it come from his station's reporting pool?

Again, not discounting it. Just saying that Twitter is a strange venue for breaking news. A full report on ABC7 would be preferred. A police confirmation or report should ultimately be forthcoming.
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I think you are behind the times.

Twitter and such are often the sources of breaking news.

The police often cannot/will not go on record.

You are never going to hear certain things directly from them.

Also, the police sometimes use reporters to get info out there to see what happens with a suspect or with witnesses, etc.

To see what reactions result, without saying anything officially.
 
“I went to the Subway, got my order,” Smollett continued. “During that time I texted my manager, thinking that he was still in Australia… I said, ‘Call me when you can.’ He called me immediately and while he was on the phone, I heard as I was crossing the intersection, ‘Empire!’ And I don’t answer to Empire, my name ain’t Empire. And I didn’t answer, I kept walking, and then I heard, ”f— Empire n—.’ So I turned around and I said, ‘What the f– did you just say to me?’ And I see the attacker, masked, and he said, ‘This MAGA country, n–,’ and he punched me right in the face. So I punched his a— back and then we started tussling.”

The actor remembered, “there was a second person involved who was kicking me in my back and then it just stopped and they ran off.” It was only after getting back on the phone (which was still on during the attack) with his manager that he realized there was a noose around his neck and a liquid (the appears to be bleach) poured on his person. “It happened so fast,” he said. “It felt like minutes but it was probably 30 seconds.”

Smollett also cleared up some false reports that his ribs had allegedly been fractured. “My clavicle was messed up, my ribs were bruised but nothing was cracked,” he said. “Like, I walked into the hospital, I walked out of the hospital.”
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That's his latest version, apparently.

https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/14/jussie-smollett-attack-interview-good-morning-america/
 
"Appears to be Bleach"

I don't understand this, did it not smell like bleach, but turned his clothes white?
or did it smell like bleach, but didn't affect his clothes?

Bleach is a pretty distinctive odor.
 
In the police report Smollett says that both attackers were dressed in black. The image of the two guys shows one with white pants and possibly both have white pants. Maybe not white but definitely a very light color.
 
Drewbot said:
"Appears to be Bleach"

I don't understand this, did it not smell like bleach, but turned his clothes white?
or did it smell like bleach, but didn't affect his clothes?

Bleach is a pretty distinctive odor.
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Police report says clothing was stained. I think I recall a police leak saying that the officer smelled the stain and the odor was like bleach.

I speculate that it was bleach, because the clothing was stained and the stain smelled like bleach.
 
William Parcher said:
Police report says clothing was stained. I think I recall a police leak saying that the officer smelled the stain and the odor was like bleach.

I speculate that it was bleach, because the clothing was stained and the stain smelled like bleach.
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In the description of the good quality video during building entry, the stains are described as "salt stains", IIRC.
 
Wow. Update from 4 hours ago

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/02/chicago_police_hint_jussie_smolletts_story_a_hoax.html

Police had asked to see Smollett's phone or his phone records immediately to verify his and his manager's account that they were on the phone with each other at the time of the attack. Smollett refused, saying he could not be without his phone for the length of time it would take for investigators to download his call log. Two weeks afterwards, on Tuesday, Smollett finally offered police a PDF file of his call log, which was heavily redacted. Police refused to use it as evidence, saying the computer file could easily have been edited and they need the information to come directly from the carrier instead. Jussie Smollett has still not complied with their request.
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The Chicago P.D. has confirmed that it has video of Jussie Smollett with the rope, tied in a Windsor knot, around his neck in the lobby of the building that he eventually called police from. Yet when a reporter asked if police also had video of Smollett with the rope around his neck outside that building, police said they could not confirm that, as it would "interfere with the investigation."

If the rope was really around his neck before he entered the building, it wouldn't interfere. That was already assumed when Smollett declared that the rope was placed around his neck during the attack and he wore it until he reached his friend's apartment. Failure to confirm the actor's own statement indicates that he could have placed the mass-produced clothesline around his own neck upon entering the building. That could be the key to whether the entire crime was manufactured.
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The most compelling development is the video surveillance of Smollett's steps that evening. Police have gathered and raked through hundreds of hours of footage and narrowed down that the attack supposedly happened in a 60-second time frame that happened to be off all cameras. No other persons are seen entering or leaving the same frames in that period of time. The "persons of interest" police have asked the public to help identify are seen sitting on a bench across the street at the time the assault is claimed to have happened.
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Perhaps life imitates art and could give insight into Smollett's ulterior motives. His own music video that he performed in and directed in March of 2017 called "F.U.W." has the imagery of a black man standing under a noose. Right after appears a man in a Donald Trump mask standing behind the TV actor.
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Oh wow, the only knot Smolett can tie is a Windsor! That's the opposite of most of us. :D
 
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Scopedog said:
There's a theory that it's the result of a plea agreement including snitching and/or becoming an informant. Supposedly, the no contest plea also makes it difficult or impossible to pursue civil litigation against him (I am not a lawyer).
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No, it means he didn't admit guilt, so there is no self incrimination to be used against him in a civil case. But I am not a lawyer either. Intarwebs degree is in amateur gynecology.....
 
LTC8K6 said:
In the description of the good quality video during building entry, the stains are described as "salt stains", IIRC.
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The police report states that the unknown chemical stained the clothing. Bleach may take several minutes to begin staining clothing.

It's possible that the bleach was applied in the 60 seconds before entering the lobby and the staining had not yet become obvious.

I speculate that the camera sees salt residue but not yet any bleach staining. When the police arrive later they see the clothing itself which has salt residue and bleach staining.
 
Not sure if this was addressed, but might the reason the alleged attackers have not been seen running away be because they lived in one of the buildings in the 60-second no-camera zone? Although I suppose police have checked that out already. Any other 24-hour buildings open in the 60 sec zone that dumped out onto another street that police forgot to check video surveillance of?

If in this heavily videoed area, no men are seen running away, as claimed by Smollett, what other skeptical position can be taken, other than the claim of attack is false?
 
Some non-skeptical person posted ******** from "The American Thinker," and now I'm wondering - Full Windsor or Half-Windsor?


ETA - the hot sauce was dropped off by someone on a rented hover-scooter obviously. That's why it left no tracks.
 
More: @ABC also confirming police talking to two persons of interest. Police used technology to track the movements of the two individuals using cameras, public transportation records, and corroborating information provided by Smollett.

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Chicago police say the two persons of interest have not been charged with a crime and there is no evidence they’re involved in the physical attack. “We know who they are and have brought them in for questioning” a CPD spokesman said.

https://twitter.com/RobElgasABC7/status/1096076727527395328

Looks like they tracked down the two bums. Bad news... for Jussie
 
The Big Dog said:
More: @ABC also confirming police talking to two persons of interest. Police used technology to track the movements of the two individuals using cameras, public transportation records, and corroborating information provided by Smollett.

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Chicago police say the two persons of interest have not been charged with a crime and there is no evidence they’re involved in the physical attack. “We know who they are and have brought them in for questioning” a CPD spokesman said.

https://twitter.com/RobElgasABC7/status/1096076727527395328

Looks like they tracked down the two bums. Bad news... for Jussie
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If they are innocent, Jussie has caused them a lot of trouble...
 
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