Homosexuality is a choice

DC said:
Research indicates that it indeed is not only caused by the environment.
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I do not know any research which proves that. I know researchers which speculate that.

Do you have a reference to a research which proves (not which speculate) that are more factors rather than just the environment?
 
DC said:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617151845.htm

and btw, i said, indicates, what evidence do you actually have that support your speculations about homosexuality.
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The reference you provided support my argument rather than undermine it: the environmental factors changes people's behaviour.

The differences detected in the brain of individuals of the same gender is the scientific evidence of brain plasticity.
 
SnakeTongue said:
The reference you provided support my argument rather than undermine it: the environmental factors changes people's behaviour.

The differences detected in the brain of individuals of the same gender is the scientific evidence of brain plasticity.
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so you actually believe brains change in size when someone has sex with the same gender?

what evidence do you have to support that belief?
 
DC said:
oh kid, face it, Homosexuality is natural behavior,
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no it aint.

and you clarify it nicely
and it is in no way something you choose, you cannot choose to what you feel atracted.
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sure you can...............

ie... choice is exactly WHY, the homosexual or purely the same sex sexual intercourse is what mankind can comprehend is not natural but of frustrations (in the animal, mammal, instinctive reactions) and then of fun and entertainment for many of human desires.

"OH kid, face it"

you are clueless and just trying to defend your bigoted views that do not hold any trueth.


you failed.
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calling someone a bigot for not lying to himself is pretty ruff


must not be very happy
 
Bishadi said:
ie... choice is exactly WHY, the homosexual or purely the same sex sexual intercourse is what mankind can comprehend is not natural but of frustrations (in the animal, mammal, instinctive reactions) and then of fun and entertainment for many of human desires.
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What the heck does this mean?
 
Alt+F4 said:
What the heck does this mean?
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in nature same sex intercourse is ooosually of sexual frustration and often of bonafide rape or submission to dominance.

but of human capacity, then choice it involved and with comprehension of events, cause, reason, and compassion............. then before lying to oneself about sex is a requirement to love, marriage or even a requisite to fun, then choice offeres anyone with any sense to comprehend that same sex between concensual partners is a choice.



ie... just to render "concensual" sex means it is a choice before an act. That does not mean, that it is normal it means each can choose before causing an action of ones self.
 
Bishadi said:
and you clarify it nicely sure you can...............

ie... choice is exactly WHY, the homosexual or purely the same sex sexual intercourse is what mankind can comprehend is not natural but of frustrations (in the animal, mammal, instinctive reactions) and then of fun and entertainment for many of human desires.
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When did you decide to be attracted to women (assuming your a straight-male)?

I remember deciding that Republicans were idiots, that God wasn't real, that Michael Jordan was awesome, that New Kids on the Block sucked hard, but I don't remember deciding to like women.

Were you presented with a dong and some snizz and told to pick one? How does that work?
 
Bishadi said:
no it aint.

and you clarify it nicely sure you can...............

ie... choice is exactly WHY, the homosexual or purely the same sex sexual intercourse is what mankind can comprehend is not natural but of frustrations (in the animal, mammal, instinctive reactions) and then of fun and entertainment for many of human desires.

"OH kid, face it"



calling someone a bigot for not lying to himself is pretty ruff


must not be very happy
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nice demonstration of your cluelessness.

Like someone else asked you already, when did you choose to be attracted to the gender you are attracted to?

i have never choosen to feel attracted to woman. I have never choosen to not be attracted by man. But i have choosen to have sex with woman.

you are liying to your self. why?
 
TraneWreck said:
When did you decide to be attracted to women (assuming your a straight-male)?
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as far as conforming, i dont do the straight of the complacent.

likewise..........
I remember deciding that Republicans were idiots,
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many in te south think like that too

wiki .................. The Republican Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party. Founded by anti-slavery expansion activists in 1854, it is often called the Grand Old Party (GOP).


that God wasn't real,
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if you comprehended nature, then the garden would be already known as YOUR CREATOR.

Learn to appreciate and love it!

that Michael Jordan was awesome, that New Kids on the Block sucked hard, but I don't remember deciding to like women.
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at least you are thinking about it
Were you presented with a dong and some snizz and told to pick one? How does that work?
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i haven't killed anyone yet either................... but i did wonder once, what a liver, fava beans and a fresh chianti would be like.


perhaps best i dont have a taste of that......
 
DC said:
nice demonstration of your cluelessness.

Like someone else asked you already, when did you choose to be attracted to the gender you are attracted to?
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after an experience with a babysitter

i have never choosen to feel attracted to woman. I have never choosen to not be attracted by man. But i have choosen to have sex with woman.
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wow.............

you make a choice, but for some reason others cant?


nice demonstration of your cluelessness.


you are liying to your self. why?
 
Bishadi said:
after an experience with a babysitter



wow.............

you make a choice, but for some reason others cant?


nice demonstration of your cluelessness.


you are liying to your self. why?
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as i said , i never have choosen to feel attracted to woman. but i have choosen to have sex with woman. when you do not realize the difference then there is something wrong with you.

and i have a hard time believing you did actively choose to feel attracted to something.
 
Bishadi said:
as far as conforming, i dont do the straight of the complacent.

likewise..........
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Huh?

Bishadi said:
many in te south think like that too

wiki .................. The Republican Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party. Founded by anti-slavery expansion activists in 1854, it is often called the Grand Old Party (GOP).
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You should do some reading about the Republican Convention of 1912. Teddy, upset that his chosen successor, Taft, failed to follow in his trust-busting footsteps, ran for the nomination. Teddy demolished Taft in the primaries (this was the first year they were held), but Taft controlled the Republican National Committee. At the convention, they gave basically all of the delegates to Taft and he became the nominee despite being spanked in the primary.

Teddy was furious and split, forming the Bull Moose Party. The vast majority of progressives in the Republican Party went with him. From that point on, the sorts of people who were anti-slavery activists began to abandon the Republicans, eventually ending up as Democrats when Teddy's third party failed.

The Republican Party then became the conservative party. The only region where conservatives weren't Republicans was in the Deep South. They HATED Lincoln, a Republican, and stayed with the Democrats as a result.

That is until Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964. All of the racist a-holes in the Democratic Party jumped off like rats from a sinking ship and joined the Republicans.

Add in some religious nuttiness, and you have today's Republicans.

But I'm sure you already knew that.

Bishadi said:
if you comprehended nature, then the garden would be already known as YOUR CREATOR.

Learn to appreciate and love it!
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"Garden?" Is that some kind of sex term?


Bishadi said:
at least you are thinking about it
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Huh?

Bishadi said:
i haven't killed anyone yet either................... but i did wonder once, what a liver, fava beans and a fresh chianti would be like.


perhaps best i dont have a taste of that......
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So you're saying, like cannibalism, you've had fantasies about screwing a man or having your business handled by one, you've just chosen not to.

That's interesting. I've never had such desires (not that there's anything wrong with that!).

The constant battle to resist temptation has obviously turned you against the source of those powerful desires. I think we all understand the source of your statements with regard to homosexuals much better now.
 
DC said:
so you actually believe brains change in size when someone has sex with the same gender?

what evidence do you have to support that belief?
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Not exactly the size changes, but the functionality and the presence of neurons.

Your own reference lead to a study which shows that the brains of individuals of different sexual orientations had changed due a learned effect.

The present study shows sex-atypical cerebral asymmetry and functional connections in homosexual subjects. The results cannot be primarily ascribed to learned effects, and they suggest a linkage to neurobiological entities.

http://www.pnas.org/content/105/27/9403​
 
JFrankA said:
Behavior may change, but sexual orientation/desire does not.
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So what happened with the sexual basic desire for children that many adults once had when they were children?

Many adults lost the sexual basic desire for children.

It is a change?
 
TraneWreck said:
It consistently amuses me that people can't tell the difference between:

You're an idiot, therefore you're wrong.

and

You're wrong, therefore you're an idiot.
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Usually I assign this to ignorance, because people simply say "ad hominem" and leave it at that. But since SnakeTongue specifically said "argumentum ad hominem", I think he's being willfully ignorant, not just ignorant. No one throws "argumentum" without spotting the obvious English correspondance. Someone who's insulting you isn't actually arguing.

Sigh.
 
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