Homosexuality is a choice

Fwiw, Bishadi has also dodged my observation that, by his logic, genetic conditions which leave people sterile or kill them before they reach puberty are impossible, because evolution cannot produce them.
 
that is a bold faced lie.

nature provides the evidence and some people like to believe the papers



nonsense.
the real science has shown that queerness is not a choice. fact.
plus, i value my own experience, and can firmly state that i did not choose to be queer, any more than you chose to be straight, if in fact, you are straight.
(the jury is out on that. frankly, the lady doth protest [way] too much, methinks.)
 
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i dont do weird science!

now this part of what people can evidence is why the BS continues to pile up.

Refusal to answer question noted.

Exactly how does one choose what causes them to be sexually aroused?
 
i could give of hoot what you want.

You are not interested in reality, you are a fool playing with fire and have no idea what the hell you are doing.

This is not a subject to play with people. There are lives and human beings who live and breath that are directly affected by the right and wrong of what this isssue is about.

I know dam well what the hell kind of monsters selfish people are, and i could care less what you think of me!
Wow, I'm impressed. All of that out of a simple yes or no question.

I'll deduce from your avoidance of my question, Piggy's observation, Mr. Scott's questions, and others that you are a closeted homosexual who is deathly afraid to face that fact and, as a result, populate forums such as this one to divert your attention.

Am I right or wrong? It's a yes or no question.
 
Bishadi said that the "perhaps" in that claim saves the claim from criticism, Scott.
 
If I'm understanding this properly, bishadi seems to be arguing that homosexual intercourse is wrong, for some reason related to people being selfish and taking up resources for activities which cannot propagate the species.

Aside from the fact that homosexuals can and do participate in activities which benefit humanity as a species, what does this say about just about any leisure activity in existence? How many of them are connected closely enough to this purpose of life, its own continuation, to justify their own existence? When I think about how many resources of various types have been expended to produce the hundreds of books and dozens of computer or computer related devices which provide me entertainment... Is all that justified, or is it a waste only related to me selfishly wanting avoid boredom?

And as long as we're sharing personal examples, I certainly didn't choose anything regarding what incites sexual arousal in myself. If I knew why I liked some of the things I did, or liked more "normal" things, then I'd have fewer moments where I wonder just what is wrong with me.
 
Bishadi said that the "perhaps" in that claim saves the claim from criticism, Scott.

I think our man just has a kink for being wrong.

The way the sentence is written, the "perhaps" casts doubt on which children Alt+f4 has heard of, not to soften the implicit assertion that all such children much have been conceived by conventional heterosexual sex.

But I'm sure it made sense in biashadi's head. :wink:

- Scott
 
as i comprehend from both points of view

I use empathy. (you can too)

i could care less about being accepted. I did not post here to make the scientific community happy, nor you.

If the METHOD within the system was as credible as you believe, then ww3 will not occur with the use of nuclear weapons.

like wise, each child born would be able to comprehend what is the live of their mass is, versus believing they can choose to change, their very sexual orientation simply by choice.

just because artists can look like another and doctors can create a women from a man, does not mean their physiological existence changed from being a man. It means mankind can do far more with science than just 'good'.





Honesty!

Yes

we all can

Dont need to be published, each can learn themselves versus trying to be accepted in a scientific journal.

You like the approach that 'if they accept it, then i will'

which is like most religious adherants too.

you may have confidence is the 'systems', i dont after watching the hydrogen technology, not to mention what thomas edison himself did to styme knowledge for the purpose of business.

Heck the gay marriage issue in itself is rude as the homo asect of gay directly contradicts the intent of term "marriage" (lineage protection by male and female for copulation; historically speaking of course (no religion involved)).

that whole issue is an oxymoron based on terms itself (homosexual marriage).

i will bet that is going to bug you too?





it is the gender

So from weeee little birds to the weeee little bees, each are born with their gender/sexual orientation upon conception unless hemorphridite (and some are)


ALLLLLLLLL the rest do it by choice.

ie... there is no biology within mammels to prove anything other than what nature shares unless you choose the psychological approach and since the sickman freud beginnings, when he said "its' moms fault" he meant the environment affects many 'preferences'


So from science (biology) to psychology, the majority of facts and truth can be ascertained with HONESTY.

screw the 'system' or being accepted...................If i cared about that, i would just publish the last word.

ie..... if i said i finished the math of newton thru einstein, feynman, and hawkings himself, would you believe me? NO i dont believe you would unless someone else told you it was true.

So that would be a no on evidence then?
 
i could give of hoot what you want.

You are not interested in reality, you are a fool playing with fire and have no idea what the hell you are doing.

This is not a subject to play with people. There are lives and human beings who live and breath that are directly affected by the right and wrong of what this isssue is about.

I know dam well what the hell kind of monsters selfish people are, and i could care less what you think of me!

Well, now that's a bunch of bare assertions, and with quite the hyperbole thrown in to boot. Care to support any of them? You know, starting with exactly who is affected, exactly what fire are we playing with, by what criteria do you classify him as selfish or a monster, etc.

Or, wait, this was just your daily dose of ego masturbation, wasn't it? I guess some people make themselves feel better by trying to be better than others, others by trying to drag others down to their level, and yet others by just postulating that the others are down. Kinda says something.
 
i am honest enough to represent my sexual orientation is based on the gender of my birth (biology) as it is easy to provide the evidence; by looking between my legs.

Last I learned some basic biology -- although I realize that anything requiring paying attention is school is above your level, but bear with me -- such decisions happened in the brain, not in the dick. You know, neurons, synapses, and all that.

Are you trying to tell us that you have such decisions taken autonomously by your dick, and generally you think with your dick?

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Wow. Sure got stupid in here since I last visited the thread. Nice to see another gay JREFer out there, though. Hey bikerdruid.



it is a common problem with folks that cannot face themselves and prefer abusing others versus being responsible for their own actions


Which in itself is kind of ironic, as that is what this thread shares in itself.

The abusers blame their choice of actions on something that is not true versus being responsible for their actions
 
ETA.. you can't change the opinion of someone so stuck in their ways, it is just giving them the chance to write their bigotted views for all to see.... and probably get off on it.

hence the selfish often share themselves as being big its (self centered over any).
 
Fwiw, Bishadi has also dodged my observation that, by his logic, genetic conditions which leave people sterile or kill them before they reach puberty are impossible, because evolution cannot produce them.

if you read up on evolution, you would find that there are lots of mutations in within biological life
 
Wow, I'm impressed. All of that out of a simple yes or no question.

I'll deduce from your avoidance of my question, Piggy's observation, Mr. Scott's questions, and others that you are a closeted homosexual who is deathly afraid to face that fact and, as a result, populate forums such as this one to divert your attention.

Am I right or wrong? It's a yes or no question.



to deduce an insult from such reasoning, renders a lack of integrity.


you trying to call me something based on your own beliefs is like an theist labeling an atheist for not being like them.


I call you post bigotry!
 
Bishadi said that the "perhaps" in that claim saves the claim from criticism, Scott.

how many people have you MET personally that were born from anything other than male and female copulation?



but i will bet a my life on it, you haven't met a person born from same sex copulation.
 
I think our man just has a kink for being wrong.
i am often wrong

but on a subject like this, a kid could comprehend the truth of the matter, while many of the practitioners could care less as they have learned to lie about it from professionals.
The way the sentence is written, the "perhaps" casts doubt on which children Alt+f4 has heard of, not to soften the implicit assertion that all such children much have been conceived by conventional heterosexual sex.

the majority of life on this earth that has opposite sex for copulation are from opposite gender sexual encounters.

sure there are lots of NEW technologies to the extent of fulfilling an old prophecy;

'child born of a virgin' (untouched by a man)


has nothing to do with the thread as any human being that is capable of responsibility already knows that their actions are by their choice.


it is the irresponsible that make stupid comments like; 'well the devil made me do it' or 'i was born queer'

the majority of rendered ignorance can be found in the comments of personal denial
 

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