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Seeing as there are archeologists looking for early American remains in exactly the places where bigfoot is supposed to exist, I'd say that there is plenty of looking. Somehow we can find coprolite deposits and 40,000 year old camp fires, I'm thinking even ethereal bigfoot would have a hard time hiding.
 
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Kitz, you would suggest "They MUST be liars or hoaxed or misidentified, because you have a preconception of the 4th possibility: they did see the thing". If not, whats your approach?
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You're not keeping it together very well so let's try to keep up, OK? I suggest that every person who has claimed to see Bigfoot is either mistaken or inventing. I do not rule out the possibility of them having seen a really Bigfoot. Based on the evidence I can examine, that is an extremely remote possibility. The evidence available to research, take a good hard look at, and test points to a cultural phenomenom being at play. That's my conclusion.

You conclusion after a series of flip-flops is that Bigfoot is extinct, that it no longer exists. That's the position you have chosen to promote here at this skeptic's forum. You also implied that during the times when Bigfoot did exist that to encounter one would be a once in a life time experience. I have referred you to people at the BFF who claim multiple encounters with Bigfoots in the present. Based on the position you promote, these people must be crazy liars or possibly so breath-takingly stupid and Bigfoot-obsessed that they are incapable of being of being in the woods without misidentifying something as a Bigfoot encounter. Either way, I'm putting you in the skeptic's seat that you chose when you settled on what it is that you are arguing about Bigfoot.

You will either have to employ skeptical thinking for those people or flip-flop your position once more in which case I once again show how weak and unstable your standards are regarding evidence. I'll give you some advice. You have said the BFRO is not a good organization for finding Bigfoot. I'm quite familiar with another organization that goes to great effort to not repeat the BFRO's mistakes and to employ unique and pioneering methods in sasquatch research. They are the MABRC. They apparently have had great success and have established areas of hot activity for Bigfoot. They are very well funded and employ a dizzying array of techniques and equipment in the field. They are putting serious effort in to finding and studying Bigfoots which they've become quite adept at. Here is there website:

http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpBB3/index.php

Since you are asking me about option of whether or not people actually might be encountering Bigfoot, you can have a look at the MABRC and their impressive evidence collections and tell me what you think in terms of that possibility.

Im aware you lived on vancouver island?
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I grew up on Vancouver Island, yes. I've had many opportunities to examine to supposed evidence of Bigfoot there.
 
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Ty, yes, in caves. Why is it that you expect to have a tea party with one everytime you look for cougars?
 
makaya325 said:
Ty, yes, in caves. Why is it that you expect to have a tea party with one everytime you look for cougars?
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Who said I expected that? But, no, you're mistaken, not always in caves. Besides that, what makes you think that bigfoot wouldn't use caves just like every other apex predator does?

And who said anything about looking for cougars? These are people looking for hominids, specifically humans. If they found anything that was a hominid but not human, they would of course report it. Duh.

Every time? No. At least once out of all the times? Yes.
 
Yes, kitz, some people are kooks. Regardless of bf's existence today, i would really appreciate to stop slang terms here.
 
makaya325 said:
Yes, kitz, some people are kooks. Regardless of bf's existence today, i would really appreciate to stop slang terms here.
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Ironically, looking back through these past couple of pages, you yourself have been very dismissive and derogitory towards people offering straight-forward answers and questions. Comments about tea parties with cougars and frozen dog poo don't do much to make anyone take you or your discussions seriously.
At least one poster has even suggested you refresh your forum etiquet know-how...
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Ty, how long do they spend in the excavation sites? Do they sleep in their bed right next to a tree?
 
makaya325 said:
Yes, kitz, some people are kooks. Regardless of bf's existence today, i would really appreciate to stop slang terms here.
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That's funny. You know, I didn't see any derogatory slang in the post of mine you were responding to. I can say I see some in your post right there.

Nevertheless, I didn't ask you to confirm that there are kooks in Bigfootery. We all know that. I gave you an opportunity and a request to differentiate between who is a kook and who is not a kook. I don't think your ready or willing to engage in the kind of mental workout you need to employ in this subject. I don't think you are sincerely ready to learn about Bigfoot as the people around you here are. You seem to be lazy in the manner you respond and how you are willing to consider facts, points, and arguments. You talk about preconceived notions but it is all too clear that the only one siffering from inflexible thinking here is you.

I put you in the right direction and I gave you the bath to grow and learn more as a Bigfoot enthusiast. Hey, look over there! There's some people who claim to have encountered Bigfoot more than once. You implied that they might be right but now they are kooks? You didn't even look. You didn't even consider the option of looking. You're not interested in that because you're here now with a head full of Bigfoot "facts" and it's so easy to fart out 2-3 sentence blurb quotes that never really address anything with any real effort.

Think of all the potential real Bigfoot witnesses that you just insulted and brushed off as kooks. Why can't they have really encountered Bigfoot more than once? If it is a real animal that eats, sleeps, poops, looks for others, humps, makes babies, gets sick, gets dead etc then that should be a very real possibility. Who are you to just blithely wave it away because it doesn't fit the pattern you need for Bigfoot to be real?
 
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Kitz, since you think its a biological impossibility, i am wrong. Thats right, you are right and i am wrong. I am a delusional person because i have an interest and entertain its existence. Now, tell me all you know about the bs myth you donated 1000's of posts to. Come on, if it were a myth, why argue?
 
makaya325 said:
Kitz, since you think its a biological impossibility, i am wrong. Thats right, you are right and i am wrong. I am a delusional person because i have an interest and entertain its existence. Now, tell me all you know about the bs myth you donated 1000's of posts to. Come on, if it were a myth, why argue?
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Makaya, in your frustration and inability to effectively deal with the points I am addressing your arguments are disintegrating. I am going to teach you about something that we call making a strawman argument. Because you can't deal with what I'm actually saying, you resort to inventing a position for me that I haven't taken. Instead of debating kitakaze you are inventing a fake kitakaze that doesn't exist, thus a strawman. In any of the thousands of posts you speak of you will never find a single post that speaks about Bigfoot being a biological impossibility. You will find countless posts howeve where I argue against those that say it is impossible. We have indeed had the discussion on the subject many times and you can find a thread on the subject if you are inclined to do so.

You just invented that position for me because your arguments are weak and you can't cope with the level of discussion we are having. I advise you to abandon such blatant and dubious techniques and to engage in sincere discussion if you truly do have the intention of learning.

Also to question why I spend time discussing something that I don't believe in is another non sequitur (unrelated) argument and technique that we often see frustrated Bigfoot enthusiasts employ when they find themselves incapable of keeping up with skeptics. I discuss Bigfootery because it's interesting to me. This is a skeptic's website that you made the effort of joining. We discuss Bigfoot, conspiracy theories, homeopathy, mediums, psychics and any number of things we don't invest belief in. If you can't handle that then I'm not sure what you're doing here.
 
makaya325 said:
Ty, how long do they spend in the excavation sites? Do they sleep in their bed right next to a tree?
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You know nothing of Archeology. I didn't understand that until now.

Hey, everyone else! Is this how all us youngens come off to you? Wow is it annoying.
 
Kitz, i accept that i must be a moron, a krook, an idiot for entertaining bf's existence from my tribe. Im sorry if i offended you
 
Ty, that was a serious question: Do scientists sleep in their bed near giant sequioas, or near caves, or near 18 inch tracks?
 
I don't know what 18 inch tracks you are talking about, or how they matter, but yes, archeologists working in remote locations do in fact, sleep near their sites.

If you are tying to claim special knowledge for natives Americans because they slept outside...good luck with that.
 
makaya325 said:
Kitz, i accept that i must be a moron, a krook, an idiot for entertaining bf's existence from my tribe. Im sorry if i offended you
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I have never stated people are morons for entertaining Bigfoot's existence. What is it that you think we are doing here? I have often argued against the notion. Two points though:

- You haven't made it clear that your tribe believes in Bigfoot. There's a thread for that with lots of requests to do so.

- A person who grows up in a Mormon community is certainly not an idiot for entertaining the angel Moroni's existence. It doesn't make the belief true or mean that questioning the belief and demanding evidence is unreasonable.
 
Kita, but it doesnt mean that my tribe was mistaken either. I personally think its invalid, since white man cant tell or not tell what we saw.
 
Ty, they must sleep, and since its so wild to suggest they are nocturnal, wouldnt nocturnal biologists be better for the job?
 
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